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  • Samoa Joe

    15 88.24%
  • Kyle O'Reilly

    2 11.76%
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Thread: ROUND 2: Samoa Joe vs Kyle O'Reilly

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    ROUND 2: Samoa Joe vs Kyle O'Reilly

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    Re: ROUND 2: Samoa Joe vs Kyle O'Reilly

    Heh, actually watched this match recently.

    Love both, two of my faves. Joe has a big peak, but KOR has had a more sustained run of consistency. Abstaining until I read some more thoughts.

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    Re: ROUND 2: Samoa Joe vs Kyle O'Reilly

    Prime Samoa Joe is as good as any wrestler, ever. I get some will want to use the lense of "well, Kyle hasn't had 10 years of being whatever", but that is a pretty fucking big point to avoid. Kyle at his best is very good, but they're different echelons. No one ever watched Kyle and though they were watching one of the best of all time. You watch Joe at his best and you can see that. The whole peak vs longevity discussion only works if they are on a similar standing, which this isn't. Throw in that, actually, Kyle has spent an awful lot of his pre-WWE run being mediocre and downright shitty as well....

    Joe should walk this easily, but I'm on a board full of crazy people, so who knows.

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    Re: ROUND 2: Samoa Joe vs Kyle O'Reilly

    I've gotten to like KOR after half a decade or so of being meh on him. He's the best part of TUE imo and they're a group I rate highly. Maybe Roddy is better in-ring. I think he's charismatic, funny and does everything well whilst retaining a unique aura.

    It's so weird for me seeing people think Joe isn't good. I think even today he's still pretty good in the ring with a killer presence backed up by great talking. That's irrelavent in this competition I know but Samoa Joe is my favourite non-attitude era wrestler ever. I first seen him in 2010 in TNA and have loved what he does in the ring since. He was my favourite in ring guy and that was without going back and seeing his peak in the mid 2000s. When I did I was blown away. Potentially the best wrestler ever in this era. I understand how you could think he's fallen off, he has he's not the same as he was in his peak but I find he's still really really good being held to elite standards.


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    Re: ROUND 2: Samoa Joe vs Kyle O'Reilly

    For most of the same reasons that I picked Joe over Lethal, I'm going the with Joe again. Joe's peak is much higher and I don't think KOR's peak is high enough to give the longevity argument as much weight.

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