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    The Matrix Resurrections (2021)

    Matrix 4: Keanu Reeves, Carrie-Anne Moss and Lana Wachowski Will Return!

    A fourth live-action film in The Matrix franchise is happening! Keanu Reeves and Carrie-Anne Moss will return as Neo and Trinity with Lana Wachowski set to write and direct the film.

    “We could not be more excited to be re-entering the Matrix with Lana,” Warner Bros. Picture Group chairman Toby Emmerich said. “Lana is a true visionary — a singular and original creative filmmaker — and we are thrilled that she is writing, directing and producing this new chapter in ‘The Matrix’ universe.”

    Production on the film is scheduled to begin in early 2020, Wachowski co-wrote the script with Aleksander Hemon and David Mitchell.

    “Many of the ideas Lilly and I explored 20 years ago about our reality are even more relevant now. I’m very happy to have these characters back in my life and grateful for another chance to work with my brilliant friends,” Wachowski said.

    Plot details on the film haven’t been revealed, and given the ending of 2003’s The Matrix Revolutions it’s not a clear cut answer.

    Earlier this year we asked our readers if they were interested in more movies in the series, with 69% of those voting saying “Yes!” In a secondary poll, 58% said they wanted to see a continuation of the series. Looks like they’ll be getting what they wanted!

    The three previous films—The Matrix (1999), The Matrix Reloaded (2003) and The Matrix Revolutions (2003)—have earned more than $1.6 billion at the global box office and were all top-10 domestic hits in their respective years of release. The Matrix Revolutions was also the first film ever to release simultaneously in every major country at the same hour around the world.

    Special 20th-Anniversary screenings of The Matrix are being held at select AMC Theatres locations across the U.S., starting August 30.

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    Pretty hype for this. I might need to rewatch all three films because I vaguely remember the third film. I would love to see Chad Stahelski Direct this. He's done the directingfor the Wick films and was Reeves's Stuntman for the Matrix films back in the day.
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    Re: Matrix 4 (TBA)

    Quote Originally Posted by Kairi HoHo View Post
    Pretty hype for this. I might need to rewatch all three films because I vaguely remember the third film. I would love to see Chad Stahelski Direct this. He's done the directingfor the Wick films and was Reeves's Stuntman for the Matrix films back in the day.
    That's going to be pretty tough considering the article clearly mentions that Wachowski is writing and directing it.

    I'm not excited for this at all. The 2nd and 3rd movies sucked and it's been way too long for there to be a sequel now. No buys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuji Vice View Post
    That's going to be pretty tough considering the article clearly mentions that Wachowski is writing and directing it.

    I'm not excited for this at all. The 2nd and 3rd movies sucked and it's been way too long for there to be a sequel now. No buys.
    Give me a break I just got home from work It is going to be interesting how they grab a new audience because the old audience will be there, but how they bring in those new viewers is the question I have.

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    Can't say I'm overly happy or upset about this. Of course, the first is amazing but the second was okay and the third was arse. So it's not as if they're "ruining its legacy" at this point. I await a trailer at the very least.

    As for Lana back at the helm, no issues here either. The Wachowski's output may vary in quality but fuck it at least they're brave enough to try stuff others won't.

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    Re: Matrix 4 (TBA)

    So the first full trailer for this dropped yesterday, and it's now been confirmed that the movie title will be: 'The Matrix Ressurrections':



    There are also two teaser trailers that were dropped earlier this week that offer some additional footage and clips not in the full trailer, these are available on the website they've set up to hype up the film: whatisthematrix.com

    As for the full trailer, it's likely to be the one and only trailer I would imagine given that the movie release date is December 22nd, when it will be released in theatres and on HBO Max (the last movie to be released on the streaming service in conjunciton with/instead of theatre release, as has been the case throughout COVID).

    I'm a big fan of The Matrix series. The first movie is a classic and really broke new ground with the way it was done and some of the effects used. I'm probably in a minority in also having enjoyed the two sequels. I can acknowledge that they aren't up the the standard of the first however, but they're still entertaining to me.

    This trailer seems to give off the impression that this movie will provide a sort of soft-reeboot of the series as they seem to be going back to the start where Neo is plugged back into the Matrix as Thomas Anderson and quesitoning his existance, whether the world he sees is real etc, much like in the first movie.

    I'm not sure what to think about a new person playing Morpheus, and I would have liked to have seen Hugo Weaving back as Agent Smith given that he was one of the highlights of the original trilogy with his performance (I believe scheduling conflicts prevented Weaving returning while Lawrence Fishbourne apparently wasn't asked back).
    I'm also a little annoyed that Reeves will seemingly be donning his John Wick look for most of this movie. I'm aware that he's had to shave his hair and beard for the scenes where he'll eventually wake up back in the real world (some recent photos emerged of him with a buzzcut so I guess he would have filmed these scenes last) but I would have liked to have seen him donning the more traditional Neo look at some point. Maybe they've saved those scenes for the film and not revealed it in the trailer, who knows. But watching this it was hard at times to tell my brain that I was watching Thomas Anderson/Neo and not John Wick. I understand that he's filming the next John Wick movie at the moment so he probably wasn't able to cut his hair (though if he now has a buzzcut after The Matrix not sure how that's going to work...).

    Other than that, the trailer looks pretty impressive. The shots we get, the action we see, the way it's been shot. It looks like stuf from the original trilogy which I'm sure is what they'll be going for with this movie to re-introduce the franchise to a new audience. It doesn't however look as dark and gritty in appearance as the first movie, but that's probably due to advancements in special effects and such, so it's to be expected.
    Almost all of the footage we see in the trailer is taken from inside The Matrix and we see very little footage of the characters in the real world. We also see a lot of Neo/Thomas, some Trinity and Morpheus but very little of other characters.

    I have no doubt that the action, cinematography, and the way it's shot will all be excellent in this movie, but whether this succeeds or not will come down to the story they tell with it, and it's going to be fscinating what they've come up with. I've seen it said that what we perceive to be the story based off the trailer isn't what it seems. A very 'Matrix' thing for them to be saying about this! I'm very much looking forward to this though and I sincerely hope that it delivers and succeeds enough to kick start a new series of films as I could really do with more Keanu Reeves doing kung-fu shit in slow-mo and shooting bad guys with guns, lots of guns...
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    Re: Matrix 4 (TBA)

    Oh good, there's a thread for this.

    One of those franchise's that means more than most to me. The sequels were the first films I was snuck into underage, the first I loved when first saw on VHS, then made sure I saw it at the cinema during it's 20th anniversary run two years ago. I will say that Revolutions is absolute trash though

    Agree about Reeves looking too much like John Wick in the trailer. I'm more bothered by how "clean" everything looks, but I guess that's what 20 years of CGI progress will do, and as said we didn't see too much of Zion to compare with. Trying to be open minded, but ultimately wasn't blown away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Postman Dave View Post
    Oh good, there's a thread for this.

    One of those franchise's that means more than most to me. The sequels were the first films I was snuck into underage, the first I loved when first saw on VHS, then made sure I saw it at the cinema during it's 20th anniversary run two years ago. I will say that Revolutions is absolute trash though

    Agree about Reeves looking too much like John Wick in the trailer. I'm more bothered by how "clean" everything looks, but I guess that's what 20 years of CGI progress will do, and as said we didn't see too much of Zion to compare with. Trying to be open minded, but ultimately wasn't blown away.

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    Same for me mate, Reloaded was the first I snuck into underage lol

    A lot of chat online about how this is a blatant cashgrab, but, I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt. It's one of my favourite franchises and it's a movie that Reeves loves too so I'm hoping he wouldn't have agreed to it if he wasn't impressed by it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy Thunder View Post
    Same for me mate, Reloaded was the first I snuck into underage lol

    A lot of chat online about how this is a blatant cashgrab, but, I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt. It's one of my favourite franchises and it's a movie that Reeves loves too so I'm hoping he wouldn't have agreed to it if he wasn't impressed by it.
    I have enough faith in Keanu to believe this isn't a cash grab. And the Wachowski's always get the benefit of the doubt from me as whether their movies are good or bad, at least they have the audacity to try different things.

    You can't even look too much into who's not there. Apparently Fishburne wasn't asked to be in this one, and Hugo Weaving has no issues turning down blockbuster sequels regardless (see Captain America 1).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Postman Dave View Post
    The sequels were the first films I was snuck into underage
    My grandma took me and a couple of buddies to see Matrix Revolutions during the day on opening day, skipping school in the process, because she loved the first one so much. We all came away disappointed and I'm sure at least one of us wondered if we would have had more fun at school.

    The first Matrix (up to the flying part) is one of my favorite films of all-time. Reloaded is a pale imitation, and Revolutions was like shitty Dragonball Z for me.

    If this feels more like the first one than either of the sequels, I'm super for it. I enjoyed the trailer for the most part, but I am cautiously optimistic. I was hoping a new Matrix movie would follow different characters entirely but I guess resurrecting them is fine too?

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    I wanted a Matrix movie about a group of teenagers in Zion who defy their parents and jack into the Matrix to celebrate a birthday or vacation or something like that. They go to a casino within the Matrix to play table games and have a good time. Only catch is the casino is actually owned by rogue programs (remember wolves and vampires from the sequels) and they're about to get raided by Agents. Just picture bullet time and slot machines being riddled with bullets, chips flying, drinks splashing, etc. You get the idea. Nothing more than a cameo from one of the big players, and maybe set up a few fun characters that might be cool to follow for a sequel.
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    Re: Matrix 4 (TBA)

    The trailer has me interested. I hear the concerns, Keanu looking like his Wick character, the other two sequels not being great. No Hugo or Laurence. Honestly, I'm excited for the movie. I feel like it could blow our minds beyond what the very first one did. After all Lana has had almost 20 years to have an idea for what might come next.

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    Re: Matrix 4 (TBA)

    Been a few little teasers released but the latest full trailer for this movie dropped last night:



    I think this pretty much confirms that this movie will (to a degree, probably largely) dissregard the events of the 2nd and 3rd Matrix movies and will serve as a sort of reboot with the story taking place and following a new incarnation of The Matrix (The Architect did reveal in the 2nd movie that there had been several versions of The Matrix created, each one slightly different). The last line of the trailer where Neo says "I still know kung-fu" though suggests that at least some of the events of the first movie may have taken place or that Neo is somehow aware of those events subconciously. It's also seemingly been revealed in this trailer that Jonathan Groff's character is going to be a new version of Agent Smith in this new Matrix which is interesting. He's a good actor and could play the villain role well.

    Impressive trailer again overall and the action looks incredible, as you'd expect from this movie. I'm definitley very excited for this and hope that it hits the right notes and delivers where the 2nd and 3rd failed. I'm also hoping that this isn't a one and done either as I'd love to see this kick start a new story to be told over the course of a two or three movies. It's another case of great trailer setting up a platform for the movie to disappoint, so we'll see if the finished product follows through and delivers.

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    This was dope! A massive improvement in the other sequels for sure.

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    Getting away from the "Neo is God" thing helped massively. I appreciated them getting the callbacks to the first films out the way in the first half too,so it could be more its own thing (liked how they handled Morpheus and Smith too). I'd be down for more, but get away from Neo and Trinity, I don't want them making the Star Wars mistake of relying too much on their core characters.


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    It was good! The premise of the movie was super meta/a little lazy, but everything after the 30ish-minute mark was fun. The ending was a little silly but whatever.



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    Outside of watching Matrix as a kid, I hadn't really watched it again til this year. I watched Matrix 1 maybe 2020 or 2021, cant remember. I wasnt really hooked enough to watch the 2nd. It was ultimately a pretty straightforward blockbuster origin story with a concept (it's all a simulation) that today is widely known enough I'm surprised more creators haven't ripped it off since Matrix series seems to generally waste it (outside of Animatrix which is miles ahead of anything from the films imo).

    Anyways, with Matrix 4 out, I decided to go ahead & watch Matrix 2 & 3. Matrix 2 was the most enjoyable of the 4 for me. It explores the Matrix way more than any of the other films... which you know... is why I'm watching these movies anyways (most of the characters are pretty bland, I hardly understand why Neo & Trinity even like each other... fair enough they're both hot but outside of that?). Matrix 3 was... bold... a significant portion of the movie is outside of the Matrix & doesn't focus on Neo or Trinity (alas the Zion characters don't get enough time to develop much personality either despite the huge run time of each movie). I have Matrix 3 a notch beneath Matrix 4 because Matrix 4 is at least genuinely interesting for a bit.

    As far as Matrix 4 goes...

    I'm of the opposite mind of TGO. I thought the first 30 minutes were fun & interesting though I enjoy self-referrential/aware stuff (and I feel this fits very much with the questions Matrix asks about our lived reality), and then the rest of the movie became more or less generic again after that with a pretty underwhelming heist plot as its centerpiece. Unfortunately, the action scenes don't reach nearly the same level as Matrix 2... heck even Matrix 3 (though Matrix 3 is mostly mech wars which while fun, isn't as fun as the in-Matrix fight scenes). I understand part of the reason why the fight scenes are less interesting, Neo is still regaining his powers & figuring shit out throughout, nevertheless, it doesn't make for very riveting stuff. I did enjoy the overall backstory of how the world evolved. I also thought Yaya was way more enjoyable as Morpheus than Laurence Fishburne... no disrespect, Bugs was a fun addition, and new Mr. Smith was cool too. Neo & Trinity do remain dull and I'd be happy if we just moved on from them. But I also feel like they give up on most of the newer cast pretty quickly to fall back on the beloved fated ones.

    I thought Neo's plot was at its most interesting near the end of #2 when he realizes the prophecy was another system of control & everything they were depending on for survival somewhat falls apart. Felt like that was a good dilemma but then they cheapen out and everything works out for the best anyways (okay tbf a shitton of Zion falls apart but they rebuild and you hardly care about the dead ones anyways). Neo ends up going full Messiah by the end anyhow, kinda making the prophecy true anyways.

    Other random thought is I always heard the take that Matrix is a trans allegory... and I get it... but at the same time this feels very weak... or at least it could be applied to innumerable aspects of our society outside of being a trans allegory & feels very non-specific in that regard. It feels more like a case of "there's nothing else to latch onto in mainstream entertainment & this is the closest we'll get" in the same way that gay/lesbian ships will be made off just a one-time glance because studios rarely go full gung-ho. I know there's a good reason for why they had to go that vague back in 1999-2003. It probably wouldn't have been made plus the Wachowski's were probably still wrestling with their identities. But in 2021, this would've been a good opportunity to try and push for something more direct in that regard (like their rumored Switch character who is one identity in the matrix and another outside of it). Maybe they did try and still met a wall with execs. Who knows?

    All in all, I think the Matrix is a great concept, Matrix 2 has great action scenes (Matrix 3 as well but less the sort I wanted), but the characters are lifeless (up until the additions in 4), and the plot is pretty by-the-numbers.

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