Tommy Platinum

Ummm....

Cena is always out of the title picture. See his feud with Miz, see his feud with Big Show, see his feud with JBL, see his feud with Batista. Basically stop being a mark and actually wake up to the facts. I can't remember the last time Triple H wasn't in the picture, but maybe you can enlighten us?

As for the match, do you honestly believe anything Triple H has done with Orton tops the Cena/Orton matches at Summerslam 2007 and No Way Out 2008? Because if so, wow....

How you can criticise a match that has produced greatness before when you've been endorsing a feud that has created nothing but shit, just because your precious Triple H isn't involved, is beyond me.

Oh, and Cena getting boo'd is better than some of the muted reactions Triple H matches get. Only Cena can go on after TAKER/HBK and still get the fans into the match. How into Triple H's Mania match were the fans?

I guarantee this will destroy every Triple H match in the last 2 years.

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Y 2 Jake

They work well together, but I've seen it all before. I was actually hoping for an Orton/Henry title match. I think that shows how bored I am of most of the main players on Raw.

This should've been the WrestleMania main event. I suspect they'll put on a better match than the one that happened.

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I criticize Cena because I can't fucking stand him. I never have. Maybe it's because I'm not 10 years old. I don't need to justify that to anybody.

HHH has gotten thunderous ovations every week for like the last two months, not to mention they chant his fucking name in the match. But I guess an Internet mark would be too oblivious to hear or see that. Nothing is gonna stand in the IWC's war vs Triple H, by god!

And you can't guarantee me shit because it's YOUR OPINION. I guess you can guarantee me that no what what shit Cena rolls out there, you'll love it and diss whatever Triple H does. You that every week, so why would I expect anything different from a PPV.

All you Triple H haters follow the same sick, overplayed, predictable pattern. It's time to move on with life.

Cena's "feud" with Mz? Hahahaha. Is that what you call that? If Triple H did to Miz what Cena has done the last two months, you'd pop a fucking blood vessel and have a thread 40 pages long by now. Miz won pretend matches and DQ's, and Cena destroyed him every time a bell rung. Feud, my ass. What's Miz doing now?

You obviously watched that Wrestlemania match with crowd noise pumped into your house over the speakers, because that crowd was dead as shit for EVERY match after HBK/Taker. Cena followed that?
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Why do I imagine you, every Monday Night, in your Reeboks and John Cena John Deere Gear doing "you can't see me" at your TV and squealing along with the other girls in the arena, hoping Cole pops off a "vintage Cena" comment?

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Ok..maybe actually construct an argument rather than resorting to the childish insults. You're basically a clone of every other Cena-hating internet "smark".

Most of you people woke up and realized Cena was pretty good back in 07 sometime. Not all apparently.

Once again you're ignoring my point. Did I ever say he doesn't get good ovations on RAW? (Cena gets better ones but they're still good). The bad thing about Triple H is some of the reactions he gets on PPV. Whether it be cheers, boos or a combination of the two, there is always a lot of noise in a Cena match. When you look at Triple H/Orton, the fans were dead, and that is why Triple H shouldn't really be involved in such high profile matches. Similarly, at Armageddon we got "boring" and "Hardy" chants when HHH was facing Kozlov. That would never happen to Cena. They may boo him, but they'd always be into the match they see before them.
Well most would agree that Cena has the better matches of the two and is the better wrestler. You're definitely in the minority here. I do give credit where it's due, but Triple H hasn't really done much worthy of credit in a long time. I also criticise Cena when he deserves it. See my review of his match with Batista in the "review the last wrestling match you watched" thread in general wrestling. I call it like I see it, but I find Cena a far more entertaining wrestler, even though Triple H in his prime was very good indeed. Triple H basically still wrestles like a heel and this makes his matches hard to get into. Cena is always full of energy and has a way of making matches entertaining, to me at least.
The irony here is off the charts. I'm always the one actually constructing an argument. You Cena haters have been making the same worthless posts since 2006. "OMG ONLY 10 YEAR OLDS LIKE HIM".
I believe I criticised that greatly when it happened.....plus he made him look good on RAW the next night, while HHH was squashing MVP on one leg.

It was an example of Cena not being in the title picture. Again, I have to ask you to comment on my other examples, and answer the question of when HHH was last out of the picture?

You have a fantastic way of ignoring my points so as not to admit you're wrong.

No... the crowd were into the triple threat because Cena was involved. Go back and watch it again.
Again, how is this a relevant or worthwhile post? You realize that in resorting to personal attacks, your argument has no credibility whatsoever? This is basically just a form of trolling. Insulting me personally trying to provoke a comeback because you've just been owned in a debate yet again.

I don't know why I even reply to you if you're going to be such a joke of a poster.

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PY

Funny how people are saying this is gonna be a MOTY when these two never had an above average match. I'd say Trips and Orton have had better matches then these two. Hopefully, I get proved wrong and they do have a good match, and at the end of it, Orton regains.

Tommy Platinum

Well obviously it is all opinion, but for me, 2 of their previous matches were at least ****.

I'm judging by previous matches between the two when I say this could be one of matches of the year.

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PY

Which two matches?

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John Cena (c) vs Randy Orton, Summerslam 2007:


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Randy Orton (c) vs John Cena - No Way Out 2008


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Quality could be better but eh...

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PY

Both of those matches were average to me. Since these two guys are dubbed as the future/present top heel and face, you would think they can put up a better match.

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You're entitled to your opinion. I thought they were great and I know a lot of others agreed.

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