WWE The Bash - Melina vs. Michelle McCool - Women's Championship
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I don't find dominating 90% of the matches you're in and winning all of them by any way possible 'interesting'. I don't find her attempting to speak heelish in the hick voice of hers 'interesting'. She can't act, she can't sell, she can't do psychology.
Hick voice, bad acting, i agree. But her selling is actually pretty good for what it's worth.
As for pyschology, yeah Michelle can do it. Look at her matches with Maria, the story telling was there. You want a prime example? Survivor Series 2008. She was telling the whole story when Maria came in and accidently hit Michelle, she went crazy and they started arguing, then Mickie DDT'd her. She uses heel pyschology, she beats her opponent down in a nice way to set up her finisher. Also how about when Michelle faced Gail for the #1 contenders spot? Michelle was targetting the Knee of Kim through out the match. Don't tell me she can't do it because she clearly can.
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The only thing that's good about her is that she can wrestle somewhat decently enough, otherwise, Michelle is most definitely not interesting. You just see it that way because duh, she's pushed to the fucking moon.
Pretty sure her wrestling is interesting. She has one of the most alluring finishers in the Womens Divison. I don't see it because she's being pushed to the moon, frankly i'm not even a huge fan of hers, i like her, but she doesn't come close to being my favorite Diva. I find her heel tatics, her in-ring skills, and the way she improves constantly interesting, heck, just like every other Diva, when does she get the time to show off and be interesting? 5 minute tag matches and the promo every x months doesn't cut it.
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By no means am I defending Melina here, lol (her face character sucks, but that could just be WWE booking for you), but I just don't see what's so interesting about Michelle tbh.
And Michelles heel character might not be so compelling because of booking either. Melina is plain vanilla, and at least Michelle provides some form of amusement with her offense, not to mention at the start of her heel turn, her bitchy character was great. Recently it's become quite blah and she's too focused on, but yeah she's still more intriguing than Melina right now, mainly because Melina isn't doing anything except keeping hold of the Womens title and doing a pretty mediocre job of being a face. Turn Melina heel again and i'd agree, but right now i can't because she has no depth to her character, where as Michelle does.
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Re: WWE The Bash - Melina vs. Michelle McCool - Women's Championship
Man oh man. Remember when Trish Stratus and Mickie James were must watch Diva wrestling? I don't care much for this match for simple storyline purposes only. Melina is 100 times better as a heel and McCool was more interesting when she was hanging out with Chuck Palumbo.
Give these people some reason to make us want to watch other than "because one is a heel and one is a face"
Hick voice, bad acting, i agree. But her selling is actually pretty good for what it's worth.
Her selling is good? Then why is she dominating 90 percent of matches... then why is she looking as if a kick barely effected her... why is it when an opponent works on a body part of Michelle's, she's always forgetting to sell it after? That's because she's a shitty ass seller no matter what.
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As for pyschology, yeah Michelle can do it. Look at her matches with Maria, the story telling was there. You want a prime example? Survivor Series 2008. She was telling the whole story when Maria came in and accidently hit Michelle, she went crazy and they started arguing, then Mickie DDT'd her. She uses heel pyschology, she beats her opponent down in a nice way to set up her finisher. Also how about when Michelle faced Gail for the #1 contenders spot? Michelle was targetting the Knee of Kim through out the match. Don't tell me she can't do it because she clearly can.
Consistency is key. Just because you can sell good and show psychology for a few matches mean jack shit. The argument becomes irrevelant when it isn't consistent. In order to be good at what you do... you have to keep being good at it. Michelle decides to be good for feud with Maria, okay, awesome. Before? After? Nope, she's not.
Only a true Melina mark would say that. Her act has been stale for over a year now.
And I've said her face run has been uninteresting. However, in-ring wise... Melina > Michelle in all aspects. The way she changes it up with her moves, the way she actually remembers to sell, the way she can ACTUALLY talk on the mic when given a chance... etc... yeah excuse me for preferring a better wrestler over Michelle.
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Yes, I have a GIF of two women kissing.
Yes, it's hot. Yes it's Megan Fox kissing another woman from Jennifer's Body. Yes, it's hot... owait, I already said that. Yes, I'm aware this makes me sound like a total lesbian. But this scene? UNF.
Her selling is good? Then why is she dominating 90 percent of matches... then why is she looking as if a kick barely effected her... why is it when an opponent works on a body part of Michelle's, she's always forgetting to sell it after? That's because she's a shitty ass seller no matter what.
Because she's a fucking heel. Don't you know heels dominate matches? That and the fact she's being pushed to be the dominant Diva of the WWE, or did you miss that? It's part of her character. Example of great selling? When Maryse used the French TKO. Michelle sold it perfectly. I could think of many more examples of her selling. She's authoritative in the ring, hence why she's always bossing the likes of Layla, and Alicia aorund in the ring, she's like their mentor. Kind of like Orton is with legacy, if you notice Orton is rarely on the recieving end unless we're talking Triple H, same goes for Michelle.
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Consistency is key. Just because you can sell good and show psychology for a few matches mean jack shit. The argument becomes irrevelant when it isn't consistent. In order to be good at what you do... you have to keep being good at it. Michelle decides to be good for feud with Maria, okay, awesome. Before? After? Nope, she's not.
Those where examples, she is consistant, do you actually want me to list every single time she's used good in-ring pyschology? It might take a while. Michelle has fantastic HEEL pyschology, just take this weeks Smackdown; Part of in-ring pyschology is when you have a focal point on your opponent, and this week Michelle focused on Melinas Jaw, making sure she targetted when she had the chance, even when she wasn't legal in the tag. And what do you mean Michelle decided to be good for a feud? Do you know Michelle personally? Have you spoken to her? No, so you don't know if Michelle decided what's good and what isn't. Michelle has been on of the best performers this year in the Womens Division, whether you want to admit it or not.
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And I've said her face run has been uninteresting. However, in-ring wise... Melina > Michelle in all aspects. The way she changes it up with her moves, the way she actually remembers to sell, the way she can ACTUALLY talk on the mic when given a chance... etc... yeah excuse me for preferring a better wrestler over Michelle.
Melina > Michelle in all aspects? Melina is way too theatrical, and it's funny how you say Melina has changed up her moves, when you don't acknowledge that Michelle has either. Melina couldn't continue using her heel moveset, hence why she changed it up, same with Michelle but w/ turning heel. Melina is sloppy in the ring, and her spring-board elbow attempt was fucking horrible beyond means. Michelle executes moves well, she's enthusiastic, she's versatile, and has vastly improved in the past 18 months. And this has nothing to do with you preferring a better wrestler, this isn't what the argument is about, it's about Michelle being far more interesting than Melina, which she is. But hey if you want to change this to 'Who is the better wrestler' then by all means do so.
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That's harsh! Michelle is more interesting that Melina is AND better in the ring. Who, in the ring, is better than Michelle? Beth, Mickie, Gail are the only ones I'd say are definitely better, but that's all I'd say are.
I can't list all the names of those who are better than her... I can list those who aren't though. Maria, Eve, Layla, Alicia Fox. Done.
Michelle is bad in ring, terrible on the mic, and boring in every single aspect of the game. Even those who aren't as good as her in ring as her have qualities better than her. I would go as far as to say that McCool is the worst overall female performer in mainstream wrestling.
Melina's face character is boring as hell, granted, but she's ten times better in ring and when she's a heel she's one of the best there is. I'm not saying McCool will never be good, I just don't think she's any good now, and I haven't seen any improvement from her in a very long time. Hell, both Kelly Kelly and Maryse started wrestling on-screen after McCool did and both have improved leaps and bounds since doing so, both are now at a higher level than McCool has ever been.
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Re: WWE The Bash - Melina vs. Michelle McCool - Women's Championship
Now I'm in no way Michelles biggest fan, but I still find her more interesting than Melina. What's so interesting about Melina? Her split into the ring? Her weird hand and arm movements? I don't see what's interesting about her myself.
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