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'89 was also one of my favorite SS's. I watched it over and over when I was a kid. Heenan's rant is priceless. I was a huge Warrior mark at the time, so I loved that match. That was also the match that made me love Piper.
Did they edit out this part?
Epic blooper.
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'89 was also one of my favorite SS's. I watched it over and over when I was a kid. Heenan's rant is priceless. I was a huge Warrior mark at the time, so I loved that match. That was also the match that made me love Piper.
Did they edit out this part?
Epic blooper.
That one was not part of the DVD. Sadly.
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Wooo! '91 next, for Hart/Perfect alone it's worth a watch. The first PPV i ever watched. I fucking love it, and when my ex bought it for my birthday a couple of years back I was exstatic. Love it.
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-the show starts with another tag match.... I see a trend here! This is Power & Glory beating the Rockers. It doesn't live up to the openers from the last two.
Considering how Shawn got hurt days before the show, I thought the match was better than it should have been. Power and Glory are one of my favorite tag teams of all time. They were supposed to be winning the tag team titles at the end of the year from the Rockers, but then all of the chaos began.
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-Texas Tornado and Curt Hennig battle for the Intercontinental championship. I think I enjoy this one more than I should - two good workers in a fairly short match. But you throw in Bobby Heenan and the IC belt, and its good times. Heenan's lead-in promo was great. No one did the subtle digs like The Brain.
These two wrestled each other on so many times within the next 6 months. I believe in total, the WWE showed 8-10 of their matches on TV or Coliseum Home Video releases.
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-the first four matches contain less than 20 minutes of wrestling, and one of them has zero - Sapphire not showing up to face Sherri. So much for the idea of short matches being a more contemporary (mid 90s on) WWE thing... No idea where I got that idea from anyway...
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-the Hart Foundation take the belts from Demolition in a Best-Two-out-of-Three Falls match. Really enjoy this one. From the third member of Demolition bit to the Road Warriors showing up, its just fun.
Can you say 3-0 for Bret stealing the show?
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-three more matches with about 10 minutes of total time in the ring. One of those is Savage beating Dusty Rhodes. The entire match is basically for storyline of Sapphire leaving Dusty, apparently. Its kind of disappointing when you think about it, as its the kind of match that is something of a dream match up. The resulting 3-minute Savage win is not a thing of greatness.
This thing still pisses me off. There's nothing wrong with starting the Rhodes/DiBiase feud off with a major angle, but you don't do it at the climax of Dusty's last feud. Dusty and Savage had been feuding since about the end of 1989 and this was to be the blow off match. Instead of getting a proper ending, we had DiBiase talking much of the time and Savage winning without any real intensity. Terrible waste of Savage.
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-promo with Rick Rude... Where the hell did his mullet go? I like him less without the mullet. Thank goodness he's still rocking the porn 'stache.
The cutting of the hair was put of Rude becoming more serious. As soon as Wrestlemania 6 ended, Rude and Heenan started shooting vignettes in a gym with Rude working out. Heenan kept Rude's shirt on the entire time to help put over that Rude was more serious than ever and wasn't going to show off the end result. It wouldn't make much of a difference since Rude would be pissed off that he'd be depushed into a feud with the Big Boss Man over Heenan saying things about Boss Man's mom, so Rude quit.
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I get the feeling that its Hogan dragging Tenta to a pretty decent match, as I don't recall him doing a great deal otherwise.
Tenta was decent, but agile big man. At one time, the WO was saying how he had the best dropkick in all of pro wrestling (Early 1988 IIRC). I'd blame his poor performances on the WWE style more than anything else though.
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-a series of promos between that match and the main event. Time to get the cage together.
Thankfully, Vince and others started investing in machines to lower the cage down from the top of the arena. It saves so much more time.
Overall, it's a huge step down from the quality that was 1989 SS. Even though 88 had more crap, it was more than just an one match show like this was. I believe you're safe for the rest of the decade from the one match SS's.
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Considering how Shawn got hurt days before the show, I thought the match was better than it should have been. Power and Glory are one of my favorite tag teams of all time. They were supposed to be winning the tag team titles at the end of the year from the Rockers, but then all of the chaos began.
Can you say 3-0 for Bret stealing the show?
This thing still pisses me off. There's nothing wrong with starting the Rhodes/DiBiase feud off with a major angle, but you don't do it at the climax of Dusty's last feud. Dusty and Savage had been feuding since about the end of 1989 and this was to be the blow off match. Instead of getting a proper ending, we had DiBiase talking much of the time and Savage winning without any real intensity. Terrible waste of Savage.
The cutting of the hair was put of Rude becoming more serious. As soon as Wrestlemania 6 ended, Rude and Heenan started shooting vignettes in a gym with Rude working out. Heenan kept Rude's shirt on the entire time to help put over that Rude was more serious than ever and wasn't going to show off the end result. It wouldn't make much of a difference since Rude would be pissed off that he'd be depushed into a feud with the Big Boss Man over Heenan saying things about Boss Man's mom, so Rude quit.
Tenta was decent, but agile big man. At one time, the WO was saying how he had the best dropkick in all of pro wrestling (Early 1988 IIRC). I'd blame his poor performances on the WWE style more than anything else though.
The chaos? There was something about the Hart Foundation, Rockers, and belts, but the details are fuzzy. Is that where the Hart-Michaels dislike stems from?
I couldn't pick a better time to be watching the Bret Hart boxed... errr... SummerSlam boxed set, as I'm also reading the Bret Hart book right now. Coincidence, but its working out nicely so far.
That Savage-Rhodes match was a feud ender? Wow, what a let down. Some terrible booking right there.
Hmm... I guess I can bye Tenta as more than your average 450-pound worker. By memory, he was better than Typhoon/Tugboat, though I could be completely wrong on that. Best dropkick, though? Wow.
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The chaos? There was something about the Hart Foundation, Rockers, and belts, but the details are fuzzy. Is that where the Hart-Michaels dislike stems from?
Bret and Shawn never really had a problem until The Clique started running the show around 1995. Bret was kinda put off by it and it only kept escalating from something minor (1995) to something major (Months leading to Montreal).
Basically, the chaos was all of the changes that affected the tag team division. Originally, The Rockers were supposed to win the titles sometime before Survivor Series and then lose them to Power and Glory. Bret was already instilling enough confidence in McMahon to try out his second singles push (Original was in 1988). So the Rockers were meant to be the next main face team. However, the first curve ball was The Road Warriors coming into town. As you saw on this show, all attention immediately went towards them. Even though the Hart Foundation would remain tag team champions through the end of the year, their feud with Honky and Valentine was a minor feud compared to the Road Warriors vs Demolition.
Then you had the SNME title switch (Didn't actually air) where the rope broke, but the Rockers still won the belts. There's a few different stories around with this title switch. The main one saw Neidhart leaving the WWE around this time, so it only made more sense to change titles. However, I seem to recall hearing Michaels was close to leaving the WWE as well. So Vince brought Neidhart back and gave the belts back to the Harts. There's another story I believe that said Shawn was hurt (Knee I believe) so the Harts got the belts back and Shane Douglas started teaming with Marty Jannetty around this same time. Whichever story it is, the switch was ignored when it didn't really need to be.
Anyways, with the Road Warriors taking all of the spotlight and the whole mess that was the switch, but then not a switch with the Harts and Rockers, Roma and Hercules was forgotten about.
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That Savage-Rhodes match was a feud ender? Wow, what a let down. Some terrible booking right there.
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Yeah so many stories about that time, I've even heard that it was around the time Shawn and Marty started to have their differences, but Vince saw how over they were and decided to give them the belts. Their losing to Power and Glory (Very Underrated tag-team in my opinion, right up there with Dough Furnas and Phil Lafon) was going to start their breakup and eventual feud.
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I heard the reason they didn't air the title change was because after the rope broke the match suffered and Vince didn't want to air such a shambles of a match, and then never re-scheduled the change. Or at least that's the story HBK tells in one of the DVD's I've watched. It could just be the company line on it though.
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I heard the reason they didn't air the title change was because after the rope broke the match suffered and Vince didn't want to air such a shambles of a match, and then never re-scheduled the change. Or at least that's the story HBK tells in one of the DVD's I've watched. It could just be the company line on it though.
The problem with that story is why didn't they just tape a new match? Or better yet, why didn't Vince just have the Rockers and Hart Foundation go back out there and retape the match? It wasn't unheard of to have McMahon order wrestlers to redo a match that for whatever reason was bad.
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Agreed. It is very strange that it wasn't re-done later or elsewhere even. That's never really explained on the DVD other than to say that the match was shitty and Vince said it wouldn't be shown. Which was fair enough, but way not just do it again? The question isn't even asked never mind answered.
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