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Yeah I would agree with both of you guys. The way they booked Punk in particular tells the story. You could argue with the others that circumstances hindered them, even if they didn't react to those circumstances well. As said, you have RVD's drug use and Mr Kennedy's injury problems, but with CM Punk there was absolutely no reason why he shouldn't have become a permanent main eventer. It was 100% down to the retarded booking. Giving him the title in that fashion was a terrible idea, but not as bad as having him lose it without competing in a match and not really appear to seek revenge. It made him look so weak it was unbelievable. He lost a match clean to Orton on RAW and thats it??? Jesus fucking Christ, this guy kicked him in the head to cost him his dream!!!
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Yeah I would agree with both of you guys. The way they booked Punk in particular tells the story. You could argue with the others that circumstances hindered them, even if they didn't react to those circumstances well. As said, you have RVD's drug use and Mr Kennedy's injury problems, but with CM Punk there was absolutely no reason why he shouldn't have become a permanent main eventer. It was 100% down to the retarded booking. Giving him the title in that fashion was a terrible idea, but not as bad as having him lose it without competing in a match and not really appear to seek revenge. It made him look so weak it was unbelievable. He lost a match clean to Orton on RAW and thats it??? Jesus fucking Christ, this guy kicked him in the head to cost him his dream!!!
That's the thing though, he, like RVD and Kennedy had problems going against then. While RVD had the drug bust and Kennedy had the injury, Punk had the fact that he was never originally supposed to win the title. With the booking before and after the event, it's obvious that they were planning on hooking Jeff Hardy up nicely. Once Hardy fucked up and was suspended, Punk got the briefcase while they went back to the drawing board to figure out how to save Hardy.
Punk shouldn't have ever been Mr. MITB. Due to that, it's yet another reason why MITB isn't a failure, but that it's so unlucky.
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That's the thing though, he, like RVD and Kennedy had problems going against then. While RVD had the drug bust and Kennedy had the injury, Punk had the fact that he was never originally supposed to win the title. With the booking before and after the event, it's obvious that they were planning on hooking Jeff Hardy up nicely. Once Hardy fucked up and was suspended, Punk got the briefcase while they went back to the drawing board to figure out how to save Hardy.
Punk shouldn't have ever been Mr. MITB. Due to that, it's yet another reason why MITB isn't a failure, but that it's so unlucky.
But that's no excuse not to book him well and make the most of a bad situation, created by somebody else who has since been given a world title run. It seems unfair, that a guy who worked hard to get where he was at the time, was rewarded with the MITB only for WWE to feel that was enough and book him into the ground. I got the feeling that Punk got the world title simply to preserve the MITB record as a match that creates champions.
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But that's no excuse not to book him well and make the most of a bad situation, created by somebody else who has since been given a world title run. It seems unfair, that a guy who worked hard to get where he was at the time, was rewarded with the MITB only for WWE to feel that was enough and book him into the ground. I got the feeling that Punk got the world title simply to preserve the MITB record as a match that creates champions.
Punk got the belt because they needed a World title on Raw and they didn't want to have Trips lose the belt or to have Batista win it.
Let's not make Punk out to be a grizzled veteran who fought and clawed his way to the top. As much as I loved the night Punk won the belt, he wasn't in the position to properly lead a brand. Punk holding on to the belt for as long as he did was more than I expected. To be honest, the smarter move may of been to have JBL beat Punk for the belt in Punk's first title defense. At least then the WHT would have been in the major feud for Raw during the summer.
It was poor booking, but it was poor booking created by Hardy fucking up.
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I didn't make him out to be a grizzled vetran... I said he worked hard. Which he did.
Anyway, we all agree it was really bad booking. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 20 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
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We all love the mitb ladder match. We have all gaped at Shelto Benjimens amazing spots, Jeff Hardy crashing through Edge and the Ladder, the moonsault that has garnered much praise and critisizm, but is the match ultimately a faliure?
Edge- First winner. The win in a sense made Edge, but did this achieve what was best for the product. The mitb took Edge a step back upon cashing in, setting up Edges future 'ultimate opportunist' and this might not be a good thing.
RVD- Wins, is advertised to be the fact of the new ECW, wins both ECW and WWE title, then gets arrested. MITB might not have succeeded here either.
Kenedy- Wins, gets injured, nothing happens, Edge takes case again, leading soon down the line to him and Vicky becoming life partners. Did the case do good here?? really?
Punk-Punk wins the case, does nothing, cashes in, sees like one main event on Raw in his seven? weeks as champion then is thrown aside. Id say Punk would have been better not winning at all in the first place.
I know a lot of this is circumstance, but the match has dont more harm than good. The match its self is excellent but the aftermarth, not so much. Thoughts?
Well, in defense of the MITB, RVD screwed himself out of success. Kennedy was probably on his way to the main event before he got injured and had to give it up and lose it to Edge. CM Punk wasn't suppose to win the match. It was originally going to be Jeff and he was going to the main event, but after that last suspension they weren't set on him being champion just yet. I wouldn't call the MITB a failure. I would say that the wrestlers are failing it.
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