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Old 02-18-2009, 12:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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WWE = Shocking???

I am making this thread in the PPV section because it refers pretty much exclusively to WWE PPVs rather than the weekly shows.

Over the last couple of years, people have become increasingly dissatisfied with the WWE product, at least on the internet, and one of the main criticisms has been WWE's inability to provide that shock value they did in the Attitude Era. People miss times when they were swerved at every opportunity and you never knew what was going to happen. I am one of those people, and during the summer of 2008 I couldn't believe how predictable the WWE product had become. A PPV swerve seemed impossible.

However, I feel that has all changed now. In fact, some people criticise WWE for adding swerves for the sake of it. We saw Jericho win the World Heavyweight Title in shocking circumstances at Unforgiven, with the World Champion, thanks to Orton and Legacy, not even involved in the Scramble. We saw Edge return at Survivor Series to capture the WWE title in shocking fashion. We then saw Jeff Hardy finally win the WWE title just when nobody thought he would, only to lose it 1 month later. Then at No Way Out, we saw the whole Edge drama in the Chamber as he once again stole Championship gold in unpredictable fashion.

With these ''swerves'' in mind, is it fair to say that WWE is now pretty damn unpredictable as far as PPVs go? Perhaps even... shocking?
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Re: WWE = Shocking???

One swerve at one PPV is really jumping the gun don't you think?
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Re: WWE = Shocking???

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One swerve at one PPV is really jumping the gun don't you think?
Maybe read the whole thing?

Unforgiven, Survivor Series, No Way Out... all huge shocks.

Even Armageddon was.
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Re: WWE = Shocking???

oh... well fuck me.

I guess the bigger question is wether they were actually, you know, good.
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Old 02-18-2009, 12:11 PM   #5 (permalink)
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oh... well fuck me.

I guess the bigger question is wether they were actually, you know, good.
Well that is partly the reason this thread exists. Firstly, are WWE PPVs unpredictable. Secondly, are the swerves good, logical etc?
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Re: WWE = Shocking???

I would Say The Summer of 2008 Was When It starting Becoming Unpredictable. Edge & HHH Both retaining @ NOC, Edge Beating Taker & ONS, Punk Winning the title on Raw etc... Not Many People would of predicted that happening.

Swerves can be good at times but when you do to much swerves it comes to a point where its just ridiculous. What Was the point of giving Jeff the title for one month? What was the point of Having Jericho lose the title @ Cyber Sunday Then Win it back 2 weeks later just to lose it again to Cena 2 weeks later. Why Give Edge the Title @ SS just to have him lose it @ Armageddon then win it back again @ RR to lose it a couple of weeks later @ NWO Then Win ANOTHER title on the same night. Just Pointless really. Even though its Interesting and Surprising it's really pointless.
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Re: WWE = Shocking???

WWE definitely has been busting out surprises lately for better or for worse, and to me it's mostly been for the better. The PPVs are always entertaining lately, not to mention still good quality as far as matches go. Pretty much the opposite of the current competition.
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Re: WWE = Shocking???

I forgot about ONS. People were CERTAIN Taker would win...

Personally I prefer all the swerves and shocks to predictable booking, even if there are problems with it.
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Re: WWE = Shocking???

Meh...A Good show needs a balance of Both IMO. It's Always good to have swerves now but Like i said it gets to a point where it becomes pointless and stupid. Predictability doesn't really hurt a show THAT much. Everyone knows that if Taker/HBK happens Taker is gonna win but Everyone is still expecting a quality show stealing match.
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Meh...A Good show needs a balance of Both IMO. It's Always good to have swerves now but Like i said it gets to a point where it becomes pointless and stupid. Predictability doesn't really hurt a show THAT much. Everyone knows that if Taker/HBK happens Taker is gonna win but Everyone is still expecting a quality show stealing match.
Well obviously a balance is required, and I would rather see a truly great match and moment than a swerve which shocks me, but for a while WWE were producing neither. I do think predictability hurts a show because at the end of the day WWE is entertainment and it is entertaining when you can't predict what will happen. Talking of Taker, how much better was the match against Batista, knowing there was even a slight chance Batista could win? Obviously Taker won in the end, and HBK/Taker is a very unique example because of how great the match would be regardless, but a bit of doubt is always good, and it is rare that I don't mark for an all-out swerve, even if later I look back and question it.
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