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Old 02-18-2006, 02:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have an interresting piece here. Maybe this is the real reason Bret decided to leave WWF.

Despite Austin's passing out that led to his defeat, he did not tap out and refused to give up, which made Austin the new fan favorite. He would then replace Bret Hart as the new hero of the WWF.

That was taken from this site, on the Stone Cold Steve Austin profile thing. Not to start the whole Bret Hart debate again. But this happened in Jan. Of 97, screw job happened in late 97. Think about it, Austin was replacing Hart, Nothing hart could do to stop it. So he found himself a way out, and while doing so remained a fans favorite. By playing the victims role over the years. It really makes alot of sense if you stop and think about it. Put your love for Bret aside. Pretend HHH or someone you don't like done this same thing. What would you think then? All their fault right? Of course.
 

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I think Bret's lost more fans than anything else, as a result of the Screwjob. The truth is, alot of people took Vince's side and blamed Bret for not doing the right thing for McMahon. What I find interesting is that a few wrestlers, including Mick Foley, got into trouble for speaking up against Vince for what he did.
He did not play the victim just so he could remain a fan favourite, he played the victim's role cause he was betrayed by someone whom he considered a father
 
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What the fuck are you talking about now rattlesnake?

Bret played a heel that year with the Hart Foundation and was very successful at it. It's funny because when they'd go to Canada they'd be huge over as faces but booed in the states. Bret wasn't trying to stay as a face.
 
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What the fuck are you talking about now rattlesnake?
Bret played a heel that year with the Hart Foundation and was very successful at it. It's funny because when they'd go to Canada they'd be huge over as faces but booed in the states. Bret wasn't trying to stay as a face.
Austin was to be a heel also, but the fans loved him so much he became a face. Except in canada they hated him. I meant he was so popular, he was taking over bret's. Making Bret take a back seat so bret decided to find a way out and gain even more fans.
 
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I think Bret's lost more fans than anything else, as a result of the Screwjob. The truth is, alot of people took Vince's side and blamed Bret for not doing the right thing for McMahon. What I find interesting is that a few wrestlers, including Mick Foley, got into trouble for speaking up against Vince for what he did.
He did not play the victim just so he could remain a fan favourite, he played the victim's role cause he was betrayed by someone whom he considered a father
I think he did at first but over time hes gained them back plus. Now everyone is on his side, cept the few that aren't. I still think and believe he played the victim role so he could remain loved by fans. I swear it was a way out for him. What if a wrestler you hated did the same thing? you would think the same. I didnt hate bret before, Is still dont I just don't like him cause of what hes done. And now comes in to accept the HOF like he deserves it or something. I wish Vince wasn't so ratings hungry, if he wasn't Bret would never got the offer. But i guess its good bussiness, Vince knows what hes doing there. Thats why he has a millions dollar company and I don't. lol
 
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Austin started being popular back in early 1996, way before the fans started turning their back on Bret(when the fans started booing him a little because he was an old school babyface).

Bret more than deserves to be in the Hall Of Fame, there are only a handfull of other people who deserved to be in as much as him(people like Hogan and Savage). He won every major achievement in WWE, still is one of the most popular wresters of all time, and one of the best technical wrestlers in the industy.

I don't think he has been playing the victim role on purpose, it's Vince and Shawn who kept talking about the incident. Bret only talked about it when he was specifically asked about it(which happenes everytime he appeared for a Q&A session).

Even if Bret had retired after being screwed and never said a word he still would have deserved to be in the HOF.
 
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Austin started being popular back in early 1996, way before the fans started turning their back on Bret(when the fans started booing him a little because he was an old school babyface).
Bret more than deserves to be in the Hall Of Fame, there are only a handfull of other people who deserved to be in as much as him(people like Hogan and Savage). He won every major achievement in WWE, still is one of the most popular wresters of all time, and one of the best technical wrestlers in the industy.
I don't think he has been playing the victim role on purpose, it's Vince and Shawn who kept talking about the incident. Bret only talked about it when he was specifically asked about it(which happenes everytime he appeared for a Q&A session).
Even if Bret had retired after being screwed and never said a word he still would have deserved to be in the HOF.
Bret as a wrestler does deserve to be in the hof. but not his actions. He does keep talkin about it, crying about it. everytime he gets the chance. Austin was becoming popular in 96 but not overly popular, he went over and past bret after his matches with Bret. And months be4 bret left Austin was becoming an unstoppable force, as popular goes. Bret could stop it, bret was been replaced as the number one guy. Bret knew it, so he found a way out. Cause isnt is funny how he left wwf, went to wcw, wasnt there long and "got hurt" and doesnt wrestle again. Is bitter at Vince for doing his job, after bret refused to drop the title, and tried to screw Vince by possibly(and very likely) going to take the title to wcw with him..Now he gains more popular by playing the victim role. Im sorry, but i just cant by this victim thing, its done over too much, its to old. Bret has played it to death. Yet he goes back on everything he said and is going to appear on wwf/wwe again. If he truely felt Vince done him as wrong as he claims, he wouldnt appear back there now. Knowing(and bret isnt dumb, he knows) him appearing is going to bring vince tons of money. Bret doesnt need the money hes getting paid to come there, so its not for the money.
 
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1)Vince was the one who actually convinced Bret to sign with WCW(since Hart was fine with staying in WWE).

2)Bret Hart had been a model employee for over 10 years, and the plan he agreed to was that he was going to give up the title the next night on Raw. Since he was such a great employee most people tend to believe him.

3)Bret wrestled for 2 years in WCW before suffering his legitimate career ending injury. He appeared in WCW in December 1997 and was there until Goldberg ended his career in December 1999.

4)Bret has shown that he really cares about his fans, that's the only reason I believe that he has accepted the invitation to be inducted into the Hall of Fame.
 
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3)Bret wrestled for 2 years in WCW before suffering his legitimate career ending injury. He appeared in WCW in December 1997 and was there until Goldberg ended his career in December 1999.
4)Bret has shown that he really cares about his fans, that's the only reason I believe that he has accepted the invitation to be inducted into the Hall of Fame.
He didn't wrestle much in them 2 years. I remember him wrestling Ric Flair and goldberg, which is who "injuryed" him. And maybe somemore in bewteen, I dont remember him wrestling full time though. And to number 4, Yeah right!
 
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Other than a brief 6 month period he wrestled almost the full 2 years.

Why do you keep saying "injured"? That is not disputed, he suffered three concussions in a match against Goldberg. Those concussions led him to have post concussion sydrome which is what forced him to retire from wrestling. There's been proven.
 
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