Good example of why people think net fans are morons

Blitzkrieg

Quote from the guy who reviewed RAW on the main page...


"Overall, not a bad RAW. The Spirit Squad was just bad. What’s next? Lillian Garcia vs. John Cena with Lillian coming out on top? The introduction of Umaga, and Chavo quitting were just weird. Vince vs. Shawn probably doesn’t need to continue, but it is going to. Edge vs. HHH vs. Cena could be good, or at least a good start. It’s probably the only aspect of the show that leaves me wondering what’s going to happen next week. Note to WWE writers: that’s a good thing. The fans booing Cena is probably the most captivating thing going on in wrestling today."

Wow.. What insightful comments. Could he have been a little more negative? He must be a joy to have around.

Tyler Durden

I feel this too. So many reports I read on the net about the shows are so negative and just sniping. Hell, if you don't like wrestling then quit writing reports about it. If you do like wrestling but hate the shows then make your points but be constructive and try and indicate how you would have done things differently.

Internet fans are frikkin' lame to write the crap some of them come out with. That's why I love this board so much, not too many meathead 13 year old wrestling fans....although the debates get a bit heated and passionate at times on here, I like to think it's just because we all care!!! Now gather around for a hug everyone....what's that sticking in my side Chewy?

K Jay

I concur.

I had a sig, once.

Tyler Durden

I'll give an example, involving John Cena. So many people just spout the party line and say "he's crap" but you can tell they are just saying it because it's popular opinion from internet wrasslin' nerds.

Now, I'm not a big big fan, but to say he's crap.....is just wrong. Anyone that can cut a mean promo (and he can) or wrestle one of the matches of last year against JBL (and he did at Judgment Day?). He also possesses a brilliant "look" for a main eventer.

Now where he falls down (for me) is purely down to (a) the progression of his character to being a "vanilla" face character which just doesn't suit what he is meant to be, i.e a hard assed rapper-boy! and (b) a few things about his actual wrestling skills, for example, his punches still look poor, he doesn't time comebacks well and forgets to sell body parts that have been worked over just a few minutes earlier, but he does bump like a mother out there and work very hard in the ring. I don't see a massive problem with the guy other than character development issues. I mean people that say he is crap and then label him with other crapsters like Lex Luger are just talking complete rubbish and advertising just a willingness to follow the herd blindly.

Blitzkrieg

Plus, Tom says it all the time... Most of these assholes were Cena fabns to begin with. If you've hated Cena from day one and still hate him, I can't bitch. He's obviously not going to be for everybody. Who is? I hate Hogan.

But anyway, its become the uncool thing around the net to like Cena and god forbid you fuck up your e-rep.. I mean you might not even get any e-tang if that were to happen.

I don't care. The guy has a lot of abilities that other wrestlers would love to have. He isn't very good in the ring on some things but he is good on others.. he's not a horrible wrestler, that word gets thrown around way too much. Tomko was a horrible wrestler. Boogeyman (I hate to admit) is a horrible wrestler.

Cena is not.

In real life, this kid probably just got done wacking off to "The Time is Now" before he wrote that piece of shit report.

airr233

I agree for the most part. I like Dan Wahlers' stuff on wrestlingobserver.com. He usually hits stuff right on the head.

(sorry, its long but he makes a pretty good point)

For months I have been advocating the idea of turning John Cena heel, I have written about it extensively, and that would seem like the next logical step to what’s been happening for a good while now. But after watching Wrestlemania, and Raw the following night, and mulling everything over in my head, I’ve come to a different conclusion. At this point they would be better off leaving things the way they are, and continue to get the diverse reactions from city to city. They have something going here, and it’s something unlike anything else I have ever seen in wrestling. I have never seen a wrestler that so many people liked, while at the same time just as many people hated. And these people have verbal wars in every arena across the country, and overseas. The pro-Cena people want to drown out the people booing, so they yell and scream even louder. While the anti-Cena people want to overtake the people cheering, so they boo louder, and start obscene chants. It’s a verbal volley back and forth between these people who love John Cena, and everything he represents, and the people that despise him, and loathe everything he represents. It gives each of his matches such a unique dynamic; it’s something amazing to watch. I can’t recall anything like it in my 21 years of watching wrestling. I have heard dueling crowd chants before at Ring of Honor shows, but this is on such a bigger and grander scale. They have people that pay to cheer John Cena, and people that pay to boo him. The bottom line is they are paying to see John Cena, and they are paying to attend a WWE show. It’s something that actually benefits the company more in the long run.

If they were to turn Cena heel, then the coolness would be gone. The people booing Cena wouldn’t feel like they were bucking the system anymore, and going against the company. It would no longer be cool to boo John Cena, and chances are a lot of those people would move onto the next “cool” thing. If you lose that, then you lose a big reason why this is working right now. The company still wants everyone to love Cena, and everyone to throw babies up the air when he comes out. That is not going to happen. The best thing for them to do is stop trying so hard to manipulate the crowd. Just sit back and let it happen. Don’t bring attention to it, don’t keep having the announcers talk about it every three seconds. They think that by talking about it so much, and making it seem lame that people are going to stop. They even had Jonathan Coachman get on the side of the fans on Raw, which I guess was their version of reverse psychology. Maybe someone would say, “Oh no, Coach likes what I like, and I don’t like Coach, so I can’t like the same things he likes. So I better stop booing Cena.” Sorry, it doesn’t work that way.

It’s actually comical to watch every week the ridiculous lengths they will go to. My advice is stop all that, and just sit back and watch it happen. Let the fans keep having their dueling chants. John Cena is a man, he’s not going to shrivel up and die if half an arena full of people boo him. He should be more than used to it by now. The end result in all of this is people are paying money to get involved in this, and that is why WWE needs to stop trying so hard, and just let things develop naturally. They need to keep doing what they’re doing with Cena. If they cheer him, great. If they boo him, that’s great too. As long as they paid money for the seat they’re sitting in, that’s all that matters in the grand scheme of things. Ride the wave until it runs out, and then make the changes that need to be made. Because right now they have something that they haven’t had in a long time and that’s genuine interest in one of their new characters. It just goes to show you that despite all the storylines, all the scripting, and the crowd manipulation, you can’t force people to care about someone. These things just happen.

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Tyler Durden

That is one kick ass (if a bit too lengthy) column from Wahler. I don't always agree with him, or his opinions, but that is one way of looking at Cena that I hadn't really thought of before and it does make sense.

Thanks for posting it.

Dr. Giganto

You see...this is the kind of intelligent, thoughtful, insightful analysis that I like to see when discussing wrestling.

I just didnt expect it out of Bulldog.

lol...but on a serious note, that pretty much summarizes my feelings on the whole Cena thing

Dakstang

WC's Resident Redneck

So people can't critisize now? Your all a bunch of communists.

Tyler Durden

You're not reading the posts again are you? Yes to constructive criticism, no to mindless rantings, therefore.....you're banned!!