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Old 12-05-2005, 11:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Raw thoughts

Post your top 3 pros and your top 3 cons for this weeks Raw:


Pros:
1. Bischoff gone
2. Shelton turning heel finally
3. Cutting Edge was pretty cool

Cons:
1. Matches seemed like fillers
2. No new GM named
3. John Cena showing up


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Old 12-05-2005, 11:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Pros:
-Seeing Michael Hayes on TV again
-Maria acting smart in court
-moon pies and RC Cola, great combination
-Shelton Benjamin starting a heel turn
-officially announcing the elimination chamber match at New Year's Revolution

Cons:
-Candice and Torrie still employed, and after they fired Christy
-Cena showing up after getting my hope up of not seeing him
-That nasty segment with Mae Young
-No new GM announced

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Old 12-05-2005, 11:40 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Pros:
1. The whole "Trial of Eric Bischoff". This really could have been painful to watch seeing as most of the show was structured around this story but I thought it came off really well, all involved were funny. Coach and Bischoff are good together and Foley munching on his cookie with that intrigued look on his face while the Boogyman spun back down to wherever the hell he went was priceless.

2. The Cutting Edge. I really dug this whole segment and it seems to really be doing a lot to get Edge over as a main event heel. Lita, while certainly not great on the mic, gives Edge that added push to get heat from the crowd that wouldn't exist without her presence plus...boobs.

3. Shelton/Shawn: I hope they continue this story with HBK taking on a more mentoring role with Shelton as they form somewhat of an alliance for a while. I would like to see Shawn slowly turn heel all the while manipulating Shelton to join him in doing what is necessary to win. After Wrestlemania you could have Shelton help Michaels win the belt only to emerge himself as a top contender around Summerslam of next year at which point HBK could turn on Shelton similar to Batista vs. Triple H and you would hopefully several months worth of quality matches between Michaels and Benjamin with legitimite heat behind it with hopefully Shelton atleast emerging as a top player on Raw.

4. Smackdown Rebound: I'm really digging this whole Orton vs. Taker feud. I don't even care who wins at Armageddon, count me as entertained.

5. Triple chokeslams are the bees knees.

6. Candice's wand imploding on her was hilarious.

Cons:
1. Shelton loses to Carlito on a missed Crossbody? wtf? atleast they should have had Shelton get up only to get hit with Carlito's roll of the dice finisher or something. A pin off a ducked cross body just looked weak.

2. Cena is over I don't dispute that. I just don't understand why, and this is coming from someone who loved him when he was a heel and the period of time when he initially turned face. He's just so stale I have no interest when he's on tv.

3. Nothing else Raw related but why fire Christy?
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Old 12-06-2005, 12:10 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Pros:
1. The trial of Bischoff seemed like old times on Raw.
2. Mick Foley....enough said.
3. The Boogeyman. I really like this character.
4. We get a new G.M. next week. It's time for change.
5. The Shawn Michaels and Shelton Benjamin storyline got a good start.

Cons:
1. Lance Cade. I don't like anything about this guy.
2. Stephanie.
3. The possibility that HHH and Stephanie might reunite on t.v.


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Old 12-06-2005, 02:16 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Pros
1. The Boogeyman. (I agree with dak, just that he should wear a mask not the jedi face paint.)

2. Shelton Benjamin heel turn is the cats meow. (maybe they will steal Simons idea with him teaming up with Ted Dibiase.)

3. New GM finally!!! (Holy crap does he hold a record for holding the longest ever GM role...Holla Holla Holla Bishoff bites the dust Playa.)

4. Maria seems do-able in every way now.....Hell Id always hit it but now it wont be with a brick.

Cons

1. The Trail segment was horrible. I found that a waste of my time and it seemed to Cartoonish.

2. No Shane O Mac.

3. Maria getting her smarts from a Micks c0ck sock? I know Mr. Socko is cool but it doesnt have powers.

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Old 12-06-2005, 02:31 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Pros:

1. I thought the whole akward staredown between Steph and Triple H was hilarious for so many reasons. If you looked closely, they were both trying really hard not to smile.

2. Yay Shelton!!! Finally, he is getting the push he needs. He is already sound in the ring, perhaps under HBK's wing, he can get the attention and charismatic training he needs to take it to the next level.

3. Big show! Not only did he get a supersquash match with Kane, but he then once again got the better of Triple H. He too, is finally getting the push he deserves. And, this time, they are pushing him right.

CONS:

1. Cena is still an active wrestler and holding the belt. Nuff' said.

2. Kurt jobbing, even though his team won the match. Seriously, why was he even out there, other than to make Shelton and HBK look good? He was booked horribly tonight. He didn't talk, he didn't do anything to push the story. It was like they just needed him to fill space. Not a good use of Angle.

3. The trial. It had it's moments, but took up far too much time, and had too many useless spots. (Like Boogeyman? Why was he even there?) If it wasn't for Mick Foley, I would of flipped the channel everytime they cut back to it.

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Old 12-06-2005, 05:29 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Pros

1. Bischoff fired - just hope we get a decent replacement. Shane McMahon may do it put I cant see him doing it long term. In my opinion Bischoff will be back in charge sooner rather than later.
2. Big Show/HHH continued. Glad they are not totally scrapping this program. Im looking forward to the pay off.
3. The Trial - I thought this was very entertaining! I must admid when it was announced I thought "oh no!!!" but it turned out ok. I liked the Boogeyman segment (That worm hanging from his nose was gross!) I also liked Maria and the interaction between Steph and Vince.
4. Benjamin with a little attitude. Finally some character development for the guy!

Cons
1. John Cena - Im sure that guy is getting worse and worse crowd reactions. Take the belt off him in the chamber and shift him to smackdown.
2. Cutting Edge - Although it was an interesting segment how far are they going to go with the bad taste comment?? Not very nice.
3. What the hell was that segment when Vince introduced Steph to HHH!!!???
4. "I happen to know Chris Masters is not his name!" LOL
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Old 12-06-2005, 06:06 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Damn, I missed the Boogeyman. Someone up his match or wotever to that other place.

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Old 12-06-2005, 05:13 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Pros:

Foley, at his comic best.
And as a follow on to that the whole goofy trial, good to have a bit of comedy.
We are going to see a HBK Vs. Shelton PPV match and it will probably be match of the year, thus demoting there match on Raw earlier in the year to second best match of the year.

Cons.

Shelton booked weak again (but at least now it seems there might be a reason for that)
Vince "Triple H this is Stephanie, Stephanie this is Triple H" FCUK ME VINCE I THINK YOUD REMEMBER YOUR DAUGHTERS EX HUSBAND WHO CUT A FCKUING CAR IN TWO!!!!!!
I hate complete lack of continuity.



And the in-between section

Why in a court of law would there be entance music for witnesses, I can't decide if this is comic genius or sheer stupidity.

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Old 12-06-2005, 05:56 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I wonder if Vince met to introduce Triple H and Stephanie sarcasticly.

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