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Old 11-01-2005, 02:44 AM   #1 (permalink)
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It isn't fair to Cena..

that we compare him to guys like Kurt Angle and HBK who have years of experience on him and are regarded as all-time greats in the business.

Has Cena been a great champion? No. Are the fans behind him against Angle? No.

But is he over? Yes.. he is over whether you guys want to admit it or not. I'll never be a Cena fan because I'm into actual wrestling just as much as I'm into charisma, but I have to be fair here... He's not the worst champion we've ever seen, not even close.

I have to give him some more time to grow before I can just totally bury the guy. Remember when he was a heel and everyone was saying he had the potential to be great? I think it's way too early to write this man off that quick. He still has plenty of time to shine and carry his weight.
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Old 11-01-2005, 02:46 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I don't write him off, but i prefer his character when it is a bit more edgier and less poop jokes. He is solid in the ring and definitely has bucket loads of charisma. My gripe isn't that he is champ, my gripe is that i want him to twek his character slightly, back to the character that first got him noticed.

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that we compare him to guys like Kurt Angle and HBK who have years of experience on him and are regarded as all-time greats in the business.

Has Cena been a great champion? No. Are the fans behind him against Angle? No.

But is he over? Yes.. he is over whether you guys want to admit it or not. I'll never be a Cena fan because I'm into actual wrestling just as much as I'm into charisma, but I have to be fair here... He's not the worst champion we've ever seen, not even close.

I have to give him some more time to grow before I can just totally bury the guy. Remember when he was a heel and everyone was saying he had the potential to be great? I think it's way too early to write this man off that quick. He still has plenty of time to shine and carry his weight.

From another thread but OJ is actually a decent wrestler. So you are being confusing when you say you are into the wrestling and not so much the charisma. You can't tell me HHH is a better wrestler than he is charismatic.

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Old 11-01-2005, 02:59 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Ideally.. I like a guy who can do both like an HBK, Angle, HHH, Jericho, but those guys don't come along very often. But that's why I say I'll never really be a big Cena fan unless of course he gets better in the ring which could happen.

I'm willing to give Cena a chance however, to improve.. while others do not want to give him that chance.
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Old 11-01-2005, 03:01 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Plus, I said I'm into wrestling just as much as charisma.. I didn't say I liked one over the other.

My favs in the business right now are Triple H, HBK, Benoit (who does have charisma.. lots of intensity), Kurt, Jericho
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Ya, I think he needs to be a heel. I believe that is where the main problem lyes right now. He just doesn't have the good guy thing worked out yet and WWE pushed him with it because of the movie and what not. Bad guys don't sell products as well as good guys! he is being a corporate whore.

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Well, i just don't like how the WWE is booking him...all the all-time greats had to work their way to the top...they became their character and gave everything they got in their matches...with Cena, all they do is give him the title and make him seem invincible...like he's hulk hogan or something...all he does in a match is get his ass kicked, then make a comeback...starting with that spinning back body drop, then the five knuckle shuffle, than an FU...its so predicitable...WWE is trying to make him better than he really is, and thats wut i don't like...that's why i want guys like Kurt Angle or Shawn Michaels to totally squash Cena to show him his place...

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Cena is SOOOO turning heel soon.

He has had little to no crowd reaction as of late.

I would have him actually lose the title to HBK tonight (which will NEVER happen) and have him lose his shit over not having the title anymore.

This kid has essentially had a title around his waist for the past year. That too much title time for a guy with so much left in the tank.

I think people are turning on Cena simply because the WWE refuses to take the title off him and also his "against the odds" booking. Its just lame and its evident its just to hide his lack of wrestling moves.

I still like Cena, but I like almost everyone better as a heel. Especially Cena.

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