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Old 09-20-2005, 05:44 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I agree with Ida.

You still have to bust your ass if you are using steriods. I've known guys who've used them, worked out like a mother, and got pretty much nowhere after a couple years. I'm not saying this as a fact to prove the argument but it's some counter evidence anyway.

It's pretty well known that you have to still work out heavily with steriods.

"The Prototype" seemed like a much more well rounded wrestler then the current gimmick is. It's a shame he doesn't have more freedom.

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Old 09-20-2005, 05:51 PM   #12 (permalink)
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My overall point was about people WITH good genetics.

If I took roids and went to the gym for 30 minutes a day 5 times a week, I would become a monster in no time at all. Its just how my body is built.

If you are a person that cant gain weight no matter what garbage you put in your body naturally, then chances are steroids will just enhance your scrawny body. No matter how much you work out you just simply arent designed to get too big.

Also, I am not saying that people with good genetics can get away with chicken wings all day long, I was just stating that they can consume more of it than a person not on juice.


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Old 09-20-2005, 05:53 PM   #13 (permalink)
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What does test have to do with the amount of fat you can consume?

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Old 09-20-2005, 05:54 PM   #14 (permalink)
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It's mostly people with good genetics who take steriods though.

You don't see too many scrawny MLB players. And those who were caught always admit that they still worked hard lifting weights with the steriods.

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Old 09-20-2005, 05:55 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Quote:
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What does test have to do with the amount of fat you can consume?
Huh?


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Old 09-20-2005, 05:58 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Test is short for testosterone.

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Old 09-20-2005, 06:02 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Test gives you endurance to keep lifting and not have DOMS or have to bulk to put on more weight so you can be heavier and lift more so that you can get bigger muscles.

It has nothing to do with how much crap you can eat and still get big muscles.

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Old 09-20-2005, 06:03 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Philip Goglia, a certified nutritionist and co-owner of Performance Fitness Concepts in Venice, Calif.

"An elevated testosterone count can promote metabolism, because testosterone helps to utilize fat as an energy source. That's why men are generally leaner than women--men have more testosterone."


Is that a good enough answer for you?


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I only stated that people on roids can get away with eating chicken wings and beer on the weekends and not have that bad or a recourse from it.

You're making it out like I said "People on steriods can consume mayonaise and mozzerella sticks and look fantastic"

Ida, I feel you arent even reading my posts, so I will bid you farewell in this thread.


I still love you.

Simon


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Old 09-20-2005, 06:18 PM   #20 (permalink)
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It is AN answer and not YOURS. Also not the point YOU were making earlier. That statement is wrong in a lot of ways and also sort of right. It is basicly fluff talk and WAY too general of a statement be be applied to any specific thing.

Also adding,testosterone DOES increase MUSCLE mass, and increased MUSCLE mass increases metabolism and that's why men are generally leaner than women. And that is not even taking estrogen into account.

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