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Old 08-22-2005, 11:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Old 08-23-2005, 12:44 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I thought it was okay but not great.

Pros:
The Angle-Benjamin match was great, even Cena-Jericho was decent
The return of Ric Flair WHOO!!
A nice setup for Angle-Cena

Cons:
Do we really need 2 more uselss divas on Raw?
Big Show not being treated like a dominant monster anymore
Matt Hardy having what little momentum he had left killed
Maria is still employed

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Old 08-23-2005, 07:20 AM   #3 (permalink)
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You guys are gonna make me do this aren't you? Ok..fine. I'm going by segment.


-Masters/HBK: Why is HBK face now? nobody knows, but did you notice him sticking it to Hogan one last time in his promo? lol..thought that was funny. Anyway, HBK was good in his role on this niht regardless of what he'll be doing in the future. He gave Masters props and said he understood where Chris was coming from. Masters was good on the mic as well..he got some cheap jokes in on the old man and delivered them well. I think this feud will be good for Chris, why not learn from one of the greats to have your first big match? Props to WWE for giving Masters a big opportunity.

-Hardy/Edge/Conway: Well..Matt continued to look like crap, not sure where this is going, but the end result won't be good for Mr. Hardy. Conway was kinda lost in the shuffle here, but it should be noted that he was on RAW again and won again. Looks like they have high hopes for him, we'll see, he needs a feud bad though.

-Kerwin White: I love Chavo's new gimmick. I might be the only one on the face of the earth who thinks this is cool. The promo he had on this show wasn't as good as previous segments he's been in, but it looks like it might be Chavo/Shelton and that's good because they both desperately need something to do.

-Angle/Shelton: Both great athletes, did what they always do, entertained the shit out of me.

-Maria/Snitsky: I think the Snitsky gimmick is kinda funny, WWE needs more funny shit, and Snitsky is Fuuunny. Maria, well, I love her boobies.

-Candice/Torrie/Ashley: Anyone notice Candice doesn't look that hot sometimes? Anyway, I don't get what this is all about, but I guess it gives the new diva something to be pisy about.

-Flair/Carlito: Well..Carlito is a star you can bank on that. His comedy is outstanding! and Flair was Flair, I love Flair still, much more than Hogan. I'm not sure if Flair is face now or what, and what this means for Triple H but this segment was entertaining.

-Cena/Jericho/Angle: Looks like when Jericho comes back he'll be face again, not sure if that's good or not, I was liking his heel "Hollywood" character. Anyway, this match was so damn predictable I couldn't get into it. And I'm sick of the same Cena formula of getting his ass kicked and then doing 2 moves and the F-U for the win. I know he can wrestle a little better than that, so lets see it. I love Angle, this could be a great feud, with good matches, Angle can do anything, anything is possible with him, however, I feel like I already know Angle isn't winning the title. I hope he does, but I don't know.
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From what i've seen from the videos on wwe.com, i can't understand why torrie & candice are on raw and why it looks as if they might be heel divas.

Masters vs HBK i can see being interesting because michaels will be a victim of the masterlock and so on.

Carlito & Flair need to have a match because it would be entertaining and we may even get to see what carlito's finisher is because flair would use the dirty tactics and carlito would have to get a clean win over flair.

Angle vs Cena should be good and hopefully give angle another run with the belt.

Everyone knew jericho would be fired but i didn't like seeing him begging for his job like that, especially to bischoff of all people.





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Pros: Angle v Shelton Benjamin: awesome match

HBK/ Masters: can Masters be the next big thing in wwe?

Jericho v Cena: Good match both worked well together.

Edge: I like the attitude that he has.

Cons: Matt Hardy, there's nothing left to say on that situtation

Carlito: thats not cool spitting on Flair.
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Decent show, as soon as we heard the "you're fired" match, we all knew what was up.

Angle vs Benjamin was awesome, thank god JR recalled Team Angle. Woulda been pissed if they never mentioned it.

Flair/Carlito was good, but the IC belt is way beneath Flair.

Matt Hardy......sorry man, I hope it was a really big check.

Cena/Jericho was good, I hope they realize when Jericho comes back, he's much more than a directionless midcarder after this feud, oh and the last few years.

I missed HBK's zinger to Hogan, but is sounded funny, we knew he wouldn't stay heel, damn churchies.

Now, as much as I currently dislike him, I give props to the way the WWE is building Masters. His move is over, which is good. But, knowing what he lacks in the ring, they are actually pushing his other two strengths, his look and his mouth. For once they are not taking a big muscle head and selling his muscle alone, and he's getting over with a very limited move set so far. And he held his own vs HBK, verbally. How would u like to be there a few months, then be told you're working against Michaels? Thats gotta be intimidating, knowing how bad he can make you look. So props for a slow build with this guy, this is how u build ppl, stick with their character and make alterations as you go, not drop the gimmick when its not instantly over.

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I missed the show live this week, but just got finished watching the tape so here's my comments:

Pro's

+ HBK / Masters Segment - You just gotta love HBK on the mic, he don't pull no punches. Whoa! Masters interrupting the showstopper'! A program between these two could catapult Masters up the card.

+ Angle / Benjamin Match - Top notch match from these two. I like the Sadistic Kurt. I would love him to take the title from Cena. If Cena were to drop the belt to anyone then it should be to Angle.

+ Snitsky / Maria / Show Backstage - Man that had me in stitches!

+ Carlito / Flair - Any segment where Flair is on the mic is going to be gold. I loved the interaction between these two, and the way Carlito interacted with the crowd. Carlito is defiantly a main event player in the making.

Con's

- Torrie and Candice on RAW? Please tell me why they have a trade when most of those who got traded are now released or are traded back to the same show just 2months later!!! I could smell a heel turn from the get go. On a side note I think Trish should be traded to smackdown since their building up quite a pool of women who can wrestle.

- Man Matt Hardy is sure paying his dues...! Not only did he have to put over Conway and his ridiculous gimmick he was also made to look like Edge's b!tch for the second night in a row. I can see this feud going on till Survivor Series with some sort of gimmick match to end it all.

- The Main event.... It was so predictable, Now Jericho can take a few months off go touring Europe with Fozzy. But the question I wanna know is upon his return where will he go RAW or Smackdown?

Overall I enjoyed the show and give it a thumbs up.


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