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Old 07-27-2005, 06:03 PM   #21 (permalink)
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How long do you think Hassan would have lasted if he were a Nazi or say in the KKK?

Its more or less the same as being a "terrorist"...would you guys have thought it was bad taste then?
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Old 07-27-2005, 06:18 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I'm sure someone around here would find some B.S. defense for a Nazi or Klan member. There are just some things that you don't touch this day in age. I have a feeling the Mexicools will be next. Racial stereotypes are not funny to me in the least. That is the reason that wrestling in general is viewed as a sleazy profession. Some of the stuff they do is borderline rascist. A wrestling fan knows better and to take things like that with a grain of salt, but an outsider who has no clue what they are seeing is liable to file a civil rights lawsuit. The question here is, is it the fault of the promoters that have steered the business in that direction, or is it the fact that society has become too lax over the years and now that they want to clamp down, people who thrived for the last 10 years are finally realizing that they may have to town down a bit.

Get yourself an old wrestling tape. Watch Flair in his prime, Terry Funk, The Road Warriors, Dusty Rhodes, Ricky Steamboat, Barry Windham, The Andersons, Pat Patterson, The Briscoes, and I dare you,... I dare you to try to tell me that WWE is even a remotely good product. Wrestling happened before 1998 and just because you didn't see it does not mean it did not exist. Broaden your horizons people!!!
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Old 07-27-2005, 06:23 PM   #23 (permalink)
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The problem is that everyone doesn't know to take these things with a grain of salt. Whatever people on this board say, wrestling is aimed at kids (come on, you have to agree looking at some of the angles) so hence the WWe does have to watch what they put into the product...
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Old 07-27-2005, 06:30 PM   #24 (permalink)
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lol.. would kids even understand anything about ''terrist'' on smackdown?

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Well the main problem with wrestling is this right now. One week you have a fun Eugene match, the kids love it, you have silly gimmicks like The Boggeyman, Heidenreich and so on. The next segment you have Kurt Angle trying to rape Booker Ts wife, Viscera butt humping guys in the ring, people getting choked out with piano wire, sledgehammers, ambualnce kidnappings, blood, guts and eveything else tasteless. Wrestling is such a wierd business. Who is Vince targeting? On one hand he wants the 18-34 yr. old demo, but thats kinda hard when you have silly shit that makes us wonder if he is sane, and then he also seems to want the 8-14 year olds but thats also wierd cause I wouldn't let my kid see some of the stuff they seem to think is okay to show on TV, bikinis, blood, ultra violence,all that. I guess, here is the solution. Smackdown is already more toned down than RAW so keep it that way, maybe turn the knob down a bit more. Kids can have that show and let me keep my Monday night debauchery fest.

Get yourself an old wrestling tape. Watch Flair in his prime, Terry Funk, The Road Warriors, Dusty Rhodes, Ricky Steamboat, Barry Windham, The Andersons, Pat Patterson, The Briscoes, and I dare you,... I dare you to try to tell me that WWE is even a remotely good product. Wrestling happened before 1998 and just because you didn't see it does not mean it did not exist. Broaden your horizons people!!!
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Old 07-27-2005, 06:31 PM   #26 (permalink)
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lol.. would kids even understand anything about ''terrist'' on smackdown?

I'm assuming a kid whos dad or mom is over fighting them would.

Get yourself an old wrestling tape. Watch Flair in his prime, Terry Funk, The Road Warriors, Dusty Rhodes, Ricky Steamboat, Barry Windham, The Andersons, Pat Patterson, The Briscoes, and I dare you,... I dare you to try to tell me that WWE is even a remotely good product. Wrestling happened before 1998 and just because you didn't see it does not mean it did not exist. Broaden your horizons people!!!
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Old 07-28-2005, 04:20 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Old 07-28-2005, 06:50 AM   #28 (permalink)
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I'm sure someone around here would find some B.S. defense for a Nazi or Klan member.
Just read this....very funny Steveo.

I can imagine posters here saying for a WWE character playing a Klan member "it's only a sheet on his head....where does it say that the guy beating up only black wrestlers with a sheet on his head is a Klan member....he may be black underneath the sheet".

For a Nazi goosestepping to the ring and making Nazi salutes "he's not a Nazi...just because he salutes doesn't make it a Nazi salute....and so he's got shiny boots and beat on Jewish guys....this just means he's got good cleaning skills and the Jewish thing is just a coincidence"
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While funny, I think you guys are a bit off..lol I don't think anyone would support beatings of Jews or blacks..by obvious racists..lol


I don't speak for everyone, but I never said the guys in masks were terrorists or weren't terrorists, all I've said is why is it ok for everyone else to push the envelop and not the WWE? WWE is fiction just like everyhing else on TV.

You have shows like CSI where there are killings, beatings, rapes, etc every week, you have shows like 24 who had terrorists on there and they did more than just beat a guy up too..

It's not like these masked men blew up anything or made any mention of a bomb or kidnapping, all they did was a standard beatdown..

Then you have the media trying to talk like they watch WWE programming every week and know what's going on...which is laughable..

I really don't think this all had to end the character completely...UPN could have easily asked WWE to not have the masked men on television again, and while stupid, it wouldn't have been that big of a deal and both parties could have moved on and this young man who is very talented wouldn't have had to lose his job over it.
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Old 07-28-2005, 02:33 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Here is the major difference between TV dramas and wrestling. TV dramas are serious (sometimes award winning) shows with good plotlines, stories, and actors. Wrestling is and forever will be viewed as a sideshow act in this country. There is no way around that. The wrestling business for so long claimed to be a sport and tried to make people believe they were "real" it was laughable, and the American people laughed, long and hard. They have been stuck with that stigma ever since. But at the heart of it, wrestling and other TV shows are two seperate entities. I can't exactly put my finger on it but there is just a stark difference.

Get yourself an old wrestling tape. Watch Flair in his prime, Terry Funk, The Road Warriors, Dusty Rhodes, Ricky Steamboat, Barry Windham, The Andersons, Pat Patterson, The Briscoes, and I dare you,... I dare you to try to tell me that WWE is even a remotely good product. Wrestling happened before 1998 and just because you didn't see it does not mean it did not exist. Broaden your horizons people!!!
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