Jobbers

Papa Shango

Ive said it before and i'll say it again... We need Jobbers again on WWF TV.


Look at the problems
Approx 7-8 Hours of WWF TV a Week..
Same people fighting every week, and then fighting again on PPV..
WWF's tendency to protect stars with screw job finishes..
Value name wrestlers getting squashed in order to build someone for the enxt PPV.. and those same Value Name wrestlers are expected to get over in a future Storyline..


Bringing jobbers back into the fold would eliminate the problem of the same faces interacting with each other in a variation on the tag match we seen the week before..

It would make WWF PPVs more special, because that would be the time then the big guys clash heads.

Lower card guys would get more credibility because they would look strong going into the next PPV because they wouldnt have been squashed by Hardcore Holly for a solid 3 weeks prior.

Thats my take on it anyway.. thats how I grew up watching wrestling. Thats how i enjoyed PPVs more because people were kept apart and feuds could simmer over time via promo segments and the odd run in.. not in a 6 man tag match every week.

I think wrestling would benefit greatly from it anyway.. and the WWF isnt showing any improvement from its current method.

ICEMAN

I doubt if we'll ever see WWE go back to using jobbers, simply because I don't think it would help them at all in the TV ratings. But you are right about guys jobbing one month, then turning around and being expected to look dominant for the next PPV. There's no competitive balance anymore, and maybe jobbers would help, but I just don't see it happening.
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Danny Diamond

Founder/Admin

BINGO !!! That is EXACTLY why there will never be jobbers again.

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Papa Shango

So tell me, how is over saturation of the product and the same matches week in week out rehashed in various tag formats helping the ratings of today exactly?

Tell me how seeing people buried and heatless going into PPV matches are garnering buy rates?

Tell me how we are expected to hand over money for a match on PPV that we see every other week on RAW?

Danny Diamond

Founder/Admin

After you tell me why I would watch Triple H squash Johnny McAppleAss and La Resistance beat the hell out of The Poopy Boyz.

Wait, then when I could be watching about 700 other things on TV on a Monday night instead of Randy Orton vs. Sam The Butcher. By the way, Sam the Butchers gimmick is that he comes out in a bloody butchers outfit and also trips on his apron.

That sure sounds silly to me.


So if you want to talk about the way it is now. I have zero interest in watching WWE superstars on Saturday Mornings with all squashes. Wrestling and the fan have evolved from that. Its not about just the match anymore. But the often lame story behind the match.

The storyline in wrestling has and should be the focal point of the WWE today. You need a reason to watch. Thats the problem with the show today. The storys just stink most of the time. There is nothing wrong with the Dudleyz vs. La Resistance or The Undertaker vs. Cena etc etc if done properly.

I understand that it would be good to see some other stuff besides the supposed top stars facing each other all the time, but I honestly think that people would automatically change the channel if it was Undertaker vs. Mike Smith rather than Cena vs. Taker. Thats just me.

It all boils down to ratings and interest from the fan.


I also think you are just attempting to start a debate and don't believe your premise at all.

Simon

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Papa Shango

I strongly believe my premise. Thats how i grew up watching wrestling.

And dont tell me AAAAAAAAAAAAAAH Iron Mike Sharp isnt Ratings.


But like I said, Oversaturation. 3 PPVs in 4 weeks for heaven sake, featuring what? the same shit we see on RAW and SD.

Jobbers keeps people apart until the big PPVs.. they make people look dominant and aggressive. Why have Batista squash a name value in the Hurricane when he can squash a local nobody? Oh wait, Hurricane dont have any name value anymore because he has been squashed endlessly on RAW.

Is there a middle ground here? When building up to big angles, have Batista maul some local kid and make him look like a monster rather than further burying a star who we are meant to believe is going to be a threat 2 months down the line?

When people arent involved in major angles then the higher level stars could face each other to keep them in the picture. But squashing and burying established stars accomplishes nothing.

If its meant to be a squash.. stick a jobber in there.. if you want a competitive match then put them against other stars.. simple.

The American Dream

The days of showcase matches on primetime television ended with the Monday Night Wars. Don't look for them to be coming back anytime soon in a WWE so driven by ratings since Batista vs. wrestler you know is jobbing doesn't equal ratings.

If you're looking for job matches, you can see various guys from the indies on Heat and Velocity jobbing to WWE guys on a weekly basis where the ratings aren't as important.

Papa Shango

So your saying Batista vs Hurricane, or Batista vs Stevie Richards has some draw value and a level of intrigue? I think not. All its doing is buring people.

Narc

We got no jobbers :?: :?: :?: Are u drunk :?: :?: :?:
Matt Hardy, Rosey, Val Venis, Billy Gunn, Rhyno and every cruiserweight! How many more jobbers do we need :?: :?: :?:

Papa Shango

Thats the whole point. They are people with name value who are continually buried.

Instead of seeing these stars losing every week.. why not use a jobber instead?