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03-28-2004, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by IdaMAN OMG! He was convicted!!!! Not by her charges, but by the POLICE and courts who pressed the charges. The media has NOTHING to do what any of it. | Then if he was convicted, then why is he still on WWE TV? He never went to jail or never went to prison.
The media has everything to do it, they were the ones who accused Austin being a woman beater. Quote: |
How can you believe that she would make something up just to explain a divorce?
| As I said, it could be her way to get people to leave her alone. Stone Cold is the one who asked for the divorce, he was the one who got the divorce papers. Stone Cold is the one who wanted the divorce, not Debra. If Stone Cold didn't want the divorce, I'm pretty sure Debra and Stone Cold would still be together right now. Quote: |
If a female relitive of yours was in the same situation, would you say that to her if her husband was rich?
| If the newspapers or media were trying to get into my private bussiness, yes, I would. It would get them to leave you alone.
If Debra said "There was no attack, everything was fine", the media will constantly into the couple's private lives.
There was an article in RAW magazine a while back where Stone Cold wrote himself about "how the media made it look like he was a criminal", he explains the truth. | | |
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03-28-2004, 02:12 PM
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Rep Power: 24 | He was on TV because he only got probation, as we have said 2 times now. Did you not go and read what the arrest papers said?
What SC may or may not have said is what we call "spin". Of course he is going to try and make himself look better so that his image isn't tarnished. Wouldn't you?
Debra did not press charges. She had psychical injuries. You really think she faked all that just so people would leave her alone over a divorce??? | | |
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03-28-2004, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by IdaMAN He was on TV because he only got probation, as we have said 2 times now. Did you not go and read what the arrest papers said? | The website says that Stone Cold turned himself in and got probation for a year and for to attend domestic violence course and payed a fine, that was about it. It's hard to believe that he had probation for a year because it's a fact that before he returned to WWE TV, he didn't take that long of a break since he left WWE "after he walked out on RAW' shortly after WCW Invasion (a feud with Eddie Gurrero was starting the day before he walked out on RAW). Between then, he took time off from WWE TV for about several months which is way under a year. If he was on probation, then he wouldn't be on WWE TV this soon when he first returned as RAW 50% GM at the time. When he took his break from WWE TV, he was having a hard time with McMahon on whether he should return or not so then the media went ahead and treated him like a criminal. That's why it's hard to believe what the smokingun.com said about him. Not everything on the smokingun is true even the website says it is. Quote: |
What SC may or may not have said is what we call "spin". Of course he is going to try and make himself look better so that his image isn't tarnished. Wouldn't you?
| If you were wrongfully accused of beating a woman and all kinds of bullshit lies were thrown at you, would you try defend yourself? Yes, anyone would. No one likes to go to jail. Quote: |
Debra did not press charges. She had psychical injuries. You really think she faked all that just so people would leave her alone over a devorse???
| Could be, never know. Debra did not press charges and she did not ask for a divorce because she still loves Steve. Stone Cold wanted the divorce for personal matters.
It's just sad that people are getting into Steve's personal bussiness when they should be focusing on his wrestling career which is more important. No one cares about celebrities personal lives when they should be performing good shows.
So you have anything else to add to this topic or you're going to continue to "wrongfully accuse" me of insulting people like a little 5 year old. :roll: | | |
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03-28-2004, 05:35 PM
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Rep Power: 6 | In fact, it was nowhere near after the Invasion angle (which terminated at Survivor Series 2001), it was shortly after WrestleMania X8 that Austin staged his walkout. As for being on probation for a year, WWE.com openly ackowledged it and listed it as reasoning behind him not being able to drink beer in the ring, as per his gimmick. Don't you remember the 'beer bash' that Austin hosted after the probation was over, on a Raw?
Molly the thing is, as soon as someone appears on ur TV, they become fair game to media attention, they rely on it to be on TV week in, week out. The fact that he happened to have personal issues at the time he left regarding his status within WWE could have been for a variety of reasons, but he WAS convicted of assault AFTER he left and suffered a probationary period. That is undisputable fact. Local newspaper reports published it, which means that the evidence behind it is watertight, why didnt Steve sue otherwise? (I dont wanna hear any excuses for Steve Austin not suing because lets face it, you simply arent Steve and you dont know, it would have been an open and shut case and he would have walked away with damages and got his 'reputation' back).
I dont understand why you would refute news and put it down to speculation on the internet (a vicious rumour) when quite clearly all factual evidence points to it being true. He has irrefutable history in striking women and WAS convicted. It seems your knowledge of the US judiciary system is kinda outta whack because crimes arent necessarily punishable by incarceration, so Steve got off with probation (probably because the charges were brought by the state and not Debra McMichael herself, hence there was no testimony as to motive and nature of assault apart from the officer's observed account). SCSA is not God, he can be faulted and he is human and makes mistakes. Nothing will ever change that. | | |
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03-28-2004, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by MollyLover If he's back on WWE TV, then he was never convicted, dumbass. If he was convicted and guilty of the Debra beating then he would've gone to prison for years for that.
It's sad and pathetic that you believe everything you read on the internet and believe all the "lies" that the media throws around. :roll: |
It all depends on status in the WWE. If someone like Matt Hardy was accused of wife beating then they would be sacked immediately. Remember Brian Christopher? Sacked because of some petty drug thing... dont tell me The Rock would have been fired for the same charge. It all depends on standing within the company. For heaven sake, Austin was convicted of DUI a few years ago and nothing happened. yet Eddie was caught drinking and driving and got ousted from the company because he was nothing more than a mid carder.
dont let his job decieve you as to what he done. Like I said, every fucker denies what they do.. just because Stone Col denies it doesnt mean the guy is Christ. | | |
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03-28-2004, 11:41 PM
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How can you believe that she would make something up just to explain a divorce?
| I know this wasn't to me, However I can answer this very easily. It was a Divorce so by claiming that crap she EASILY added another $10,000 onto the money she took from him...And you can rest assure she got it....Considering hes rich as hell and she had the money to fight him to the end for it.
As for this woman he was with now, She may not be rich(I dont know) But she can and i bet you will, get a nice bit of money out of this. Because hes rich, And also he'll prolly pay it willinly just to keep his name good...Because if it goes to court and he wins or loses his name will still be damaged. Thats the price you pay been a star. Women(and men) take advantage of it. I dont personally believe hes guilty. I dont believe he was guilty with Deb' either. And I could be wrong here, But I dont remember it ever been reported that he was arrested or convicted of it. All i seen was he was QUESTIONED about it. I could be wrong, But i really dont think i am here. I know for a fact that it was reported on wwe.com that he was only questioned and NOT arrested. So, Unless i missed something there, He wasn't convicted. | | |
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03-28-2004, 11:52 PM
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Rep Power: 24 | I posted a few links in the thread that you can go to and it shows he was arrested, charged and was guilty. he also received probation if you remember was mentioned on WWE TV explaining why he can't drink beer. | | |
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03-29-2004, 01:10 AM
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Rep Power: 6 | Neither of those links where from wwe, or a actual jailhouse site in texas that he was "in". And no, It was not mentioned on wwe tv, It was ASSUMED by people on here because he wasnt drinking real beer. | | |
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03-29-2004, 01:17 AM
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Rep Power: 24 | Yes it was mentioned on TV. You are disputing the mug shot and the arrest papers? lol. Call the police there. It is public information SC. You can confirm it if you are disbelieving. I certianly wasn't assuming anything. I think you are just disagreeing to be difficult. | | |
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03-29-2004, 01:26 AM
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Rep Power: 6 | Ida, Please tell me just WHO and WHAT was said on wwe tv? Because I never heard anything mentioned...And if you will remember back, You will also remember that EVERYONE INCLUDING YOU were ASSUMING he couldnt drink beer since it wasnt beer on tv during that time....So if it was Mentioned on tv, Why the hell were you assuming, it would have be fact, However it wasn't mentioned or fact. | | |
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