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Now, i was a huge fan of Brock Lesnar during his time in the WWE. I always waited for his theme song to hit and have Tazz say "Well, here comes the pain" It was awesome. We all remember his last match at 'Mania XX, right? I wish i didn't. I have been wondering this a lot lately. If Lesnar was still here, would he have been as big as he was in 2002-2003, if not bigger?
And would he be Champion (WWE or World) as of right now?
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Probably, or at least in the main event picture. The only drawback is that he may not have been able to use the F5, though.
Why wouldn't he?
He wouldn't have been in main events pretty much non stop for those years, because nobody should be, but yeah he'd still be one of the biggest draws, one of the top guys and somebody who can always be inserted into the title picture and be a more than credible (and worthy) WWE or World Heavyweight Champion. As I said in the thread I made recently, WWE is really struggling for starpower at the moment, so it's a shame for them that they don't still have Lesnar, who was huge then and would be an even bigger name now due to longevity and a higher amount of memorable matches/moments.
It would have resulted in somebody else not becoming as big as they have been. I'd like to think that person would have been Batista.
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If Lesnar had stayed, I think Batista, Orton, and Cena all would have still gotten big pushes, but perhaps not as big. Like Tom, I think Batista may not have been pushed quite as heavy, though a Brock/Batista match would have been something interesting.
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If Lesnar stayed, I don't think Bobby Lashley gets hired, Angle never goes to TNA and 'Super' Cena never happens. WWE pushes the hell out of a Lesnar/Triple H main event for Wrestlemania 21, Batista 22 Orton 23, Michaels 24, and Angle revisited for 25.
Cena draws huge on Smackdown, his program with Edge intact, yet Cena still somehow remains underrated and the whole "Cena should be on Raw" "Why are they not pushing Cena?" "Cena is leaving for TNA" campaign begins on the internet. In the midst of, After retaining the World Heavyweight Championship against Jeff Hardy at WM 25 in a TLC match, Punk cashes in his Money in the Bank briefcase that night, and takes World Title from Cena, thereby creating an epic Cena vs. Punk feud.
If Lesnar had stayed, I think Batista, Orton, and Cena all would have still gotten big pushes, but perhaps not as big. Like Tom, I think Batista may not have been pushed quite as heavy, though a Brock/Batista match would have been something interesting.
If Lesnar had stayed i reckon all of their pushes would of been delayed another year or so. None of them would of got pushed as early as they did. Especially Orton.
If Lesnar was still around today it would be very easy to say that he would be in the main event/ Upper mid card picture for sure & would be just as big as he was back in 2002 - 04.
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I'm glad Lesnar moved to MMA. I like him there. Stay there!
And if Lesnar had stay in WWE, he wouldn't have gone anywhere further, because simply, he can't. Cena, for example, is in the same position as 3 yrs ago. YOU CANT GET VERY FAR IN WWE OKAY. if you're the WWE champ, and you're popular, thats as far as you'll go.
There's only one main push I feel wouldn't have happened. Before I get to that, thoughts on the others listed in this thread:
John Cena - I don't see why Brock sticking around would affect Cena at all. His main event push was started up at Survivor Series 2003. The sole purpose of his US title reigns was to move him up the ladder even more. With Cena being a face and Brock a heel, it wouldn't have hurt John at all. I could see Cena beating Brock for the title at WM 21.
Randy Orton - With his push happening on Raw, that wouldn't have been affected at all. Orton spent very little time in the World Title picture on SD. I see 2005 going almost exactly as it happened.
Batista - Pretty much the combination of Cena and Orton. The biggest difference is that the Summer of 2005 would of been all about Brock vs Batista on SD.
Bobby Lashley - Still would of been hired since the WWE would be looking for more guys like Lesnar.
Kurt Angle - Angle was already falling apart long before Lesnar left. If anything, the WWE would of given up on Angle sooner since they would have Lesnar.
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The one guy who would of been severely altered is the same guy who benefited the most from Lesnar leaving. Right after WM 20 ended, SD was left without their three biggest stars of 2003. The Big Show and Kurt Angle was taking time off due to injuries and Brock quit the company. Incidentally, all three were heels. After Booker T, who was their biggest heel who could headline a PPV against Eddie Guerrero? Chavo? So they needed a main event heel and they needed it fast. JBL was created and pushed because Lesnar left and the brand needed someone for Eddie to feud against while Angle and Show are out and Cean is being built up. Without Brock leaving, I honestly do not feel as if JBL would of gotten the push or the title. With several new midcarders to SD (Rene Dupree, Kenzo and Luther Reigns), there's a good chance JBL wouldn't have even been turned heel either.
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The only direct consequences I can think of if Lesnar stayed would be A) Orton would not have got pushed so soon, B) As a result of Triple H facing Lesnar at Mania 21 Batista would not have gotten the big push either, at least not right away.
Assuming enough new guys were bread to keep Lesnar interesting, I could see Lesnar still being champion/in the running for the belt.
If at this point WWE is afraid of changing the guard and letting Raw's title slip to anybody other than Cena/Batista/Triple H/Orton what makes it so hard to believe that Brock who at this time would have been far more established than three of those four guys wouldn't be int hat category.
The only direct consequences I can think of if Lesnar stayed would be A) Orton would not have got pushed so soon, B) As a result of Triple H facing Lesnar at Mania 21 Batista would not have gotten the big push either, at least not right away.
But they were pushed on Raw...
In Orton's case, the feud that made him a star (vs Foley) was already in progress before Lesnar left.
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