Y 2 Jake

I was infomed that Andre was really good in his day. I was lied to. I'm not a big fan of sitting in front the computer and watching wrestling on You Tube. But I made the effort to look up some Andre The Giant matches before his body started to break down. After did did I came to the conclusion that The Great Khali is so much better. In three years I've seen more range from Khali as a performer and, carried or not, I've seen him involved in plenty of better matches. Still awful, but better than whatever Andre was in.

I know Khali doesn't, and will never have, the legendary status that Andre does. He'll also never be involved in a match as big as the one with Hogan at WrestleMania 3. And he'll never be remembered as fondly as Andre. But am I alone in thinking that Khali is overall, a better performer?

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Lariato

Watch the match between Andre and Stan Hansen in '81, a legendary brawl which should show you why Andre is held in such high esteem.

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That is all i can do with this post. I have read a lot of dumb stuff on the Internet, but this is right up there.

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Y 2 Jake

Might've seen it, might not have. I suspect it would've been Hanson brawling and Andre selling like big men do.

I think the reason he's held in such high esteem would be because of his size and the way he was promoted over a particular match.

Feel free to to prove me wrong, it's not like I think my opinion is set in stone. I'll happily admit I'm wrong if you prove otherwise. If it's as dumb as you you say it is then it shouldn't be hard.

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Lariato

It's a very even match actually, Andre even does a bit of mat-wrestling and takes a few decent bumps. I would highly recommend you watch it as it really is a spectacle between the two big men in front of a red-hot Japanese crowd.

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Sir Nicky Talent

Back in the hey day, Andre put on terrific matches, mostly on Japanese/International circuits. It was just his disease that crippled his performance. The Great Khali, with him, there is no excuse.

I see your point, but it's illogical.

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Y 2 Jake

I've been unimpressed with what I've seen. They're fine matches, nothing special. I probably object because people talk like he was amazing, when he clearly wasn't.

The Great Khali is a brilliant example of a wrestler who's underrated. Purely because nobody rates him and he's simply not as bad as people say he is.

Logic is overrated. Most people try, most fail. I find it's better to just not try at all.

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Sir Nicky Talent

Khali hasn't put on one match that I've said "that was great" afterwards. If he has improved on one thing, it is taking a bump, not burying his opponent, and being non mediocre. Just sloppy.

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Lariato

If you look at it from the point of view that he wasn't great compared with 'normal' sized people then you're probably right. But let's face it, Andre wasn't 6'0" and 200 lbs, he was 7'0"-7'5" and weighed somewhere in the region of 450 lbs right up to possibly 550 lbs+ at his time of death.

I don't know about you, but I'm 6'3" and have a very light build but even I ache if I lay awkwardly all night, or if I've been on my feet too much, so to comprehend being about a foot taller and probably 300 lbs if not more heavier is an almost impossible thought.

The simple fact is, this man was of unbelievable proportions and had a crippling disease and yet spent decades on train's, coach's and plane's traveling the world and throwing himself all over the ring. And he really did throw himself about, but you have see that he does it in a way that people of average size can't comprehend, for him to fall through the ropes for example probably took ten times more pressure to his body that to just about any other wrestler. No wonder he slowed down a bit by the late 80's, its a wonder he could even walk to be honest.

Don't get me wrong, I respect the hell out of Khali, he doesn't exactly have it easy either, traveling must be a horrible task but the difference is that Khali grew to that size through natural means. This means that despite the fact that his body still takes a lot of punishment doing things that other workers take for granted his body, overall is better prepared and conditioned to take it, meaning that he won't be suffering the terrible pain that Andre had just moving around the ring.

Another big difference between the two is that although Khali is now in his mid-30's he has only been Wrestling for the past 10 years, and only really full-time since 2006. Whereas by the time Andre reached that age, he already had been on a world-wide schedule since he was in his early 20's (he made his debut as an 18-year-old) and I would hedge my bets as saying by the time Andre was in his mid-30's he was still moving around the ring better than Khali does now despite him already having close to 20 years in the ring by that point.

I think the fact is that many people remember Andre from the late-80's and early-90's, by that stage not only was he mind-blowingly huge (his body kept growing so he could have been over 7'5" and possibly close to 600 lbs) but he was also and middle-aged man with years of abuse on his body, if you look at a guy like Ric Flair, who is tiny compared with Andre and see what condition his body is in these days that should tell you something about how much damage Andre had inflicted to his own for other peoples entertainment. He was slow by then, but he was also very ill, ageing and in huge amounts of pain.

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Y 2 Jake

No, but he's put on plenty that have been perfectly adequate.

In what way is he sloppy? I interpret ''sloppy'' as being dangerous. He might've killed a man, but I've not heard about him huring anybody since.

I'm not basing Andre on big men. It's inevitable that somebody like Big Show is going to have a different effect on the public, he's going to be able to d more, etc. That's just a change in the business. If Andre was around now he would've had to evolve.

I'm purely basing this on The Great Khali. Both are primitive wrestlers. One is heralded as a legend, the other is a source of much derision.

I don't doubt he was in pain. But a bad diet isn't going to help you. Nor is trying to do something your body is telling you not to do.

It was Andre's choice to become a wrestler. I read he was involved with the circus before he became a wrestler. He was nothing other than a person to look at. That would've been less taxing. And just like wrestling he would've toured so people wouldn't have got bored of his routine.

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