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Old 07-05-2009, 06:47 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Re: Should there be a European title?

Absolutley not. It was a nice idea while it lasted, but it didn't work for a reason. First off, there wasn't enough European wrestlers in WWE to make it a legit "European" championship anyways. Second, it wouldn't work with the abundance of singles titles that are already in WWE now, especially having 3 "world" titles that take away from the signifficance of midcard championships anyways.

Right now, I think Smackdown's world title (which ever one they use) is just as prestigous as the IC belt was in the 90's and before, just because it's the "B-show's" world title. The ECW Championship is pretty much on the level the European Championship and Cruiserweight titles were. That makes the IC and US titles of today pretty unimportant, which is why no one really cares who those champions are now.

Sure, you could unify the world titles and the midcard titles and merge them all into 2 different championships if you really wanted to bring back the European Championship, but that would mean you would most-likely have to drop the US Championship's name in favor of the IC championship, because I'm 99% positive Vince would not do away with the IC championship name in favor of a WCW championship's. AND you still wouldn't have many European wresters to make a decent contendership for the title. Of course you could have non-European wrestlers win the title, but really, why would you do away with the US Championship just to make room for a continent that never has more than 5 wrestlers in the entire company? Doesn't make any sense.

And if you're going to add European Championship, you might as well add Asia, Australia, Africa, South America, and Antarctica while you're at it because it makes about as much sense. I honestly don't even like the idea of a US title because it just encourages fans to call for their own country/continent to have it's own title, which is silly and impossible. But the US Championship was very popular in JCP and WCW so I can see why it's still around. The Intercontinental title really says it all, so that's all there really needs to be.

I definitely think the WWE Championship and the World Heavyweight Championship should be unified because I really hate the notion of 2 TOP guys. It takes away from the specialness of being the champion. The ECW Championship, despite what WWE tries to make it kayfabe wise, is no where near the level of prestige of either. I really don't even consider it the same ECW Championship that it bears the name of, even though it's leniage still dates back to Philly. If I was to unify that title with anything, I would do it with one or both of the midcard titles because that what it is. A European Championship really has no room or purpose in today's WWE. They would have to change WAY too many things just for it to have a point. Any other singles titles introduced into today's scheme would just be a decoration for a jobber and would make the IC and US titles seem even more insigniffiant than they already are.

The only singles title that I honestly think could work again would be the Cruiserweight championship because I think fans miss the lucha libre stuff that made WCW so awesome in the mid-90's a LOT more than they miss the crakerbox European title (aka "D-Lo title") that didn't have much merit in it's prime. And WWE has a lot more wrestlers that fit the criteria for the cruiserweight division than they had when it was deactivated. But again, to make room for it and build a decent contendership for it, you would still have to unify/deactivate some other titles, which is the reason it was abandoned in the first place. If WWE isn't willing to do that, then there is absolutely no need for any more singles champioships. There are too many as it is.
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Old 07-05-2009, 07:03 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Re: Should there be a European title?

Definitely not! I pretty much agree with everything that Requiem said and he made alot of brilliant points.

The United States and Intercontinental Championships should really be unified with the Intercontinental Championship coming out the winner in it. Then with the two belts being unified, you can make the Intercontinental Championship be inter-promotional. I mean, right now with the two mid-card belts, there really isn't enough challengers for them. Well, technically there really is but WWE isn't really pushing enough of them to make them credible challengers. A European Championship would do nothing but further devalue the mid-card belts which have been damaged over the past few years.

Right now the Intercontinental Championship has regained quite a bit of it's credibility with the Mysterio/Jericho feud and hopefully it continues to gain credibility just the problem is that on Smackdown, who's a credible challenger for Mysterio? Nobody really unless they maybe put the belt on one of the members of the Hart Dynasty which would be cool.

Overall since WWE isn't willing to push some people to be credible contenders for either of the two current mid-card belts, what makes you think they would for a third mid-card belt?

Terrible idea to bring another championship to the already championship cluttered WWE.
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Old 07-05-2009, 09:17 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Re: Should there be a European title?

I liked the European Title because it was like the first title you could win when climbing the ladder to stardom. It's a starting point for young up and comers to make a name for themselves rather than just coming getting beat up or going for the IC or US title. I remember a funny and good storyline for the European Title between Regal and Jericho but then again that was when WWE was good.
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Re: Should there be a European title?

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It's a starting point for young up and comers to make a name for themselves rather than just coming getting beat up or going for the IC or US title.
It was a step down for almost everybody.

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I remember a funny and good storyline for the European Title between Regal and Jericho but then again that was when WWE was good.
2001? Terrible storyline from a terrible year.
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Re: Should there be a European title?

Somewhat off topic, but 2001 wasn't a terrible year. Fair enough the Invasion stuff was pretty bad, but the first 3 PPVs of the year were just awesome. Best Rumble ever and best Mania ever in my opinion, with a very good No Way Out in between.

The European Title had nothing to do with it being good of course.
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Re: Should there be a European title?

What about the other 3/4 of the year?

The European title only produced a couple of quality matches.
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Re: Should there be a European title?

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Eh, I liked Backlash. Summerslam was great. There were a few very memorable RAW matches such as The Power Trip vs Jericho and Benoit and Austin vs Benoit. King of the Ring produced some good stuff, Survivor Series wasn't bad.
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Re: Should there be a European title?

I really wanted to just put "No", but I guess theoretically that would count as spamming, so I won't.

All the issues raised here, about the current abundence of Titles within the WWE are correct. There are too many. Honestly, if there is a wrestler within the WWE ranks that has been with them for over three years and hasn't held one Title they should be fired, because they hand Title reigns out like fucking lollipops over there. Someone do the legwork and find me a list of people who fit that criteria, and I will show you a list of people to be future endevoured.

Less Titles in WWE for the win.

One World Title (not World Heavyweight, cos weight restriction make no sense unless you stick to them).
One midcard Title (the IC would be best, cos the US sucks).
One Tag Title.
One Women's Title (by all means keep the Diva's belt, it's pretty to look at).

One company worth watching.
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Re: Should there be a European title?

ITS LIKE THIS merge all the current titles but keep the brand split making the champions able to defend on any show, then they could possibly throw in the European Title. I also think they should change ECW's name because they are no longer 'Extreme Championship Wrestling' re-branding the show and bringing in the crop of FCW talent which they are would be a fresh new look for the show.
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