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I'm not saying the faces have good characters, I am saying they are always made to look a level above the heels and always get the long title reigns. The faces are pretty boring, don't get me wrong. Nearly everybody is, but I think heel reigns which last longer than a few months have much more potential to stay interesting than face reigns, and they should be done more often.
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But your original point was that a heel should get a longer reign than a face because a face wrestler can become stale quicker. I'm stating that heel or face, both alignments are in the same boat. Thus three rivalries best no matter heel or face.
But your original point was that a heel should get a longer reign than a face because a face wrestler can become stale quicker. I'm stating that heel or face, both alignments are in the same boat. Thus three rivalries best no matter heel or face.
No, because heels should get longer reigns for the other reasons I mentioned. They don't harm people's credibility as much, and if you win every match in some BS fashion, it is often more interesting than a load of clean wins via FU or STFU.
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Okay, so 6 of the 8 Edge title wins have been more exciting than John Cena's title reigns? To be fair, I'd rather have clean wins than the same old fashion of winning that comes from and Edge or any heel that needs outside help. At least with Cena, he found innovative ways to win. Such as choking out Umaga with the ring ropes or FUing Khali off the crane. Edge has always come out with the advantage and pick up the win. Then you have the Jericho's of the world who pretty much win cleanly. Kozlov would come out and get clean wins, Bigshow would get clean wins, besides Orton & JBL, every heel gets a clean win. A length title win would end up just like the face.
Okay, so 6 of the 8 Edge title wins have been more exciting than John Cena's title reigns? To be fair, I'd rather have clean wins than the same old fashion of winning that comes from and Edge or any heel that needs outside help. At least with Cena, he found innovative ways to win. Such as choking out Umaga with the ring ropes or FUing Khali off the crane. Edge has always come out with the advantage and pick up the win. Then you have the Jericho's of the world who pretty much win cleanly. Kozlov would come out and get clean wins, Bigshow would get clean wins, besides Orton & JBL, every heel gets a clean win. A length title win would end up just like the face.
Pretty sure it is extremely rare for any heel to retain the title by winning cleanly. I take your point about those Cena defences, but they were 2 out of about 15,
I am not saying WWE book the heels well, I am just saying that long heel reigns have a lot of benefits compared to long face reigns, and should be used.
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How dont the win cleanly? Sure they may capitalize off of a distraction, but thats exactly what a face does most of the time. Besides Orton and JBL I cant remember many heels this year who have had outside help winning titles.
It appears as if there are three giant things wrong with the WWE, that since they don't have the effort to fix, they have taken the easy way out in making Title Reigns short.
Firstly, as it's be noted, WWE hasn't built up enough Heels to carry Faces through a longer Title run nor have they built up enough Faces to carry Heels through a longer Title run. So they get to plead "well there isn't enough people to support a lengthy title reign", instead of building up credible people just to put over someone else. Ask Triple H from 02-05. When HE ran out of guys, it was ismple enough to create someone else.
Secondly, WWE have forgotten how to make a fued last. To hold the title for 6 months, you don't have to beat 5 people and lose to another. You should be able to feud with two people before losing it to the next. It used to happen all the time. If you can't keep viewers interested in you for 6 months, you probably shouldn't be Champion anyways.
The third one is probably the most simple. So sometimes we get bored of the same Champion defending right? Well we seem to forget that we have two World Champions and with that advantage, they can create a pattern of some sort. It would be a continuously changing pattern, as to keep it unpredictable....but lets say that both Champions defend their Titles successfully for a PPV and on the second the World Title changes hand. On the third, the WWE Title changes hands. Even these are relatively short reigns. Like I said, it's relatively predictable, but what I'm getting at, they can take advantage have having TWO World Champions.
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World champions should be faces most of the time, if they're representing your company, it makes sense if they're good people.
A heel champion always is better for the story. and the quality of the storyline and the wrestling is what represents a wrestling company, and even if the champion is a heel they'll still make the poster boy of the company a face. so basically a heel champion most of the time is better.
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