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Guardian Devil · 07-07-2008, 03:55 PM

So anyone have any knowledge on the Civilization series that can toss in their 2 cents?

I have zero experience with this series, but I played the demo and it seems pretty cool. I can't help but wonder if I would be better off getting the PC version though.

Can anybody weigh in on this for a brutha? What would you recommend? Maybe cover some of the major differences so I can decide which to pick up, money isn't really an issue for this either.

Spinoff360 · 07-08-2008, 03:58 AM

Well seeing as how Civilization Revolution isn't being released on PC I think that would be a pretty big reason not to get it on PC. However, you can find one of the older Civ games on PC cheaper so if you just want to try the series in general that might be a better way to go and it is a series that was made for PC so something tells me Revolution isn't going to be as good as the old Civ games but does sound like a good console job at least unlike some other PC to console transistions.

Guardian Devil · 07-08-2008, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Spinoff360

Well seeing as how Civilization Revolution isn't being released on PC I think that would be a pretty big reason not to get it on PC. However, you can find one of the older Civ games on PC cheaper so if you just want to try the series in general that might be a better way to go and it is a series that was made for PC so something tells me Revolution isn't going to be as good as the old Civ games but does sound like a good console job at least unlike some other PC to console transistions.

Sorry, by PC version I meant to say like Civ 4 or something similar. But thanks for not clarifying anything.

Spinoff360 · 07-08-2008, 09:22 PM

Well if you want to be a smartass then how about trying a demo of Civ 4 and comparing it to the demo you played of Revolution

Or follow my advice and go with the cheaper one (Civ 4 Gold Edition that also has the expansions is $39.99) since it is always better spending less on an introduction to a series than paying more. Or go the even cheaper route and rent Revolution to see if you like the full game as much as the demo. You could also ask on another forum since there are not exactly a ton of PC gamers here. Mostly console gamers if the number of topics about console gaming compared to the few that pop up about a PC game didn't make that obvious.

I have not played any games in the series but a strategy game like that is not very common on consoles for a reason and that is because a controller is not the ideal way to play them. Which is why I would have to guess the PC versions are better and also why the series has been 95% PC based. But based on reviews it sounds like they at least did a good console version unlike so many other strategy games that have been nothing but epic fails on consoles no matter how great they were on PC. So if the controls work it evens the playing field a lot more.

Also it seems like it has been a little more "casualized" with the more cartoon look it now has. The interface has very obviously been toned down with a much more streamlined way of doing things. This goes back to the whole controller thing. But more so OXM mentioned in their review that the average game of Revolution takes 4-8 hours compared to the days the average game in PC versions demanded. Seems to me like they shortened things up to make it a little more friendly to a non-hardcore gamer that is going to want to have these much longer games. So depending on which group you fall into that could be another factor.

Of course having not played it I can't say what the modding was like for sure but as any serious PC gamer knows modding can do stuff for a game that a console game won't experience. But based on a quick google search it seems like Civ 4 does have some good and popular mods such as Fall From Heaven 2.

Guardian Devil · 07-09-2008, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Spinoff360

Well if you want to be a smartass then how about trying a demo of Civ 4 and comparing it to the demo you played of Revolution

Or follow my advice and go with the cheaper one (Civ 4 Gold Edition that also has the expansions is $39.99) since it is always better spending less on an introduction to a series than paying more. Or go the even cheaper route and rent Revolution to see if you like the full game as much as the demo. You could also ask on another forum since there are not exactly a ton of PC gamers here. Mostly console gamers if the number of topics about console gaming compared to the few that pop up about a PC game didn't make that obvious.

I have not played any games in the series but a strategy game like that is not very common on consoles for a reason and that is because a controller is not the ideal way to play them. Which is why I would have to guess the PC versions are better and also why the series has been 95% PC based. But based on reviews it sounds like they at least did a good console version unlike so many other strategy games that have been nothing but epic fails on consoles no matter how great they were on PC. So if the controls work it evens the playing field a lot more.

Also it seems like it has been a little more "casualized" with the more cartoon look it now has. The interface has very obviously been toned down with a much more streamlined way of doing things. This goes back to the whole controller thing. But more so OXM mentioned in their review that the average game of Revolution takes 4-8 hours compared to the days the average game in PC versions demanded. Seems to me like they shortened things up to make it a little more friendly to a non-hardcore gamer that is going to want to have these much longer games. So depending on which group you fall into that could be another factor.

Of course having not played it I can't say what the modding was like for sure but as any serious PC gamer knows modding can do stuff for a game that a console game won't experience. But based on a quick google search it seems like Civ 4 does have some good and popular mods such as Fall From Heaven 2.

That's more like it. I will take your advice into consideration now, I think I'm leaning towards getting Civ:Rev based on a few other recommendations I've gotten.

The controls work extremely well and from what I've been digging up, Revolution is much more streamlined and focused on action and not micromanagement. I'm a fan of that to be perfectly honest, I have no real interest in managing things to a T anyways.

Thanks for the 4 cents Spinny.

P.S. I figured you of anyone would appreciate smartassism, I extend an e-handshake to you.

Spinoff360 · 07-09-2008, 04:10 PM

And why would some smartass like me appreciate smartassism. It is tresspassing on my smartass territory

Spinoff360 · 07-10-2008, 04:39 AM

Well I picked up Civ Rev today and I am really liking what I played so far and would say it is well worth a purchase. But I also found something else you might be interested in on Amazon.

Amazon.com: Sid Meier's Civilization Chronicles: Windows: Video Games

-CIV IV
-CIV III and Expansion
-CIV II and Expansion
-CIV I
-Chronicles of Civ book

All that for $26.79 seems like one hell of a good deal to me

Guardian Devil · 07-10-2008, 09:11 AM

Yeah, I also snagged Civ:Rev last night, I'm loving this game.

I'm not amazing at it nor do I really understand all of the strategy that's involved but it's a fun game, totally worth the money.

Perhaps I'll see you online sometime....

Rated R Phenom · 07-10-2008, 06:34 PM

My girlfriend started playing it at about 7pm last night. She was still playing it when I went to work at 11pm. And when I got home at 730a and went to bed, I asked her when she stopped playing. She said an hour ago! :sc18: