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Old 09-30-2008, 12:35 AM   #1 (permalink)
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What Will It Take for TNA to Compete vs WWE?

T.N.A. has good things going for them, they have good x division wrestlers: Jay lethal, Sonjay dutt, The Prince Brotherhood of Justice, Petey Williams, Consequences Creed and the next major X division player(wrestler) Referee Shane Sewel.

Than they have there good mix of veterans and younger stars from the heavyweight division: 1.Samoa Joe 2. Sting 3. Booker T 4. Kurt Angle 5. Christian Cage 6.Jeff Jarrett 7. A.J. Styles 8. Matt Morgan 9. Abyss 10. Scott Steiner 11. Kip James

Than there's the Tag Team Division: 1. Beer Money 2. L.A.X. 3. Rocking N Rave Infection 4. Team 3D 5. Mortor City Machine Guns

And last they have there Womens Division: 1. The Beautiful People 2. Awesome Kong 3. Taylor Wilde 4. O.D.B. 5 Roxxi 6. Traci Brooks 7.Karen Angle

But do fans really thing this is enough to compete with the WWE? I believe T.N.A. has the Edge in the x division wrestlers and the womens division, but among the tag team division or top heavyweights, can they really compete with the WWE?

Lets put some of the wrestlers head to head to see how they look on paper.

T.N.A. RAW SmackDown E.C.W.

Kurt Angle C.M. Punk Undertaker Matt Hardy
Abyss Chris Jericho Jeff Hardy Mark Henry
Sting Kane Edge Ricky Ortiz
Jeff Jarrett Randy Orton Triple H Chavo Guerrero
Samoa Joe John Cena M.V.P. Mike Knox
Booker T Shawn Michaels Big Show Jack Swagger
Christian Cage Rey Mysterio Kozlov Evan Bourne
Matt Morgan J.B.L. Mr.Kennedy Armondo Estrada
A.j Styles Batista Shelton Benjamin Elijah Burke

Tag Teams

Team 3D Team Priceless The Colons Woggle & Finlay
L.A.X. Cryme Tyme Hawkins & Ryder Miz & Morrison
Beer Money Festus & Jesse
Rock N Rave-Infec.
Mortor City Machine Guns

As you can see T.N.A. has their hands full with just one wwe brand. Consider the fact that the wwe exchanges their wrestling superstars on a regularly bases. Wrestler for Wrestler their in disadvantage and thats considering the fact that they added 3 top W.W.E. Stars plus Sting. That doesn't mean they can't compete versus the WWE. The WWE used to have a disadvantage of their own against WCW, talent wise. But pushing new stars, bringing some young prospect and acquiring talent from the competition got them over the hump.

The WWE pushed The Rock, Austin, Triple H and Foley. Than brought in rookies like the Hardy Boyz and Edge, Christian, Val Venis and Test. Plus they added Jericho, BigShow, Benoit and Eddie Guerrero all from W.C.W. Remember these adittions to there roster were deductions to WCW. Just like when WWE was winning the Monday Night Wars and lost two of their top stars at the time.

Lets place an Example. Lets pretend the WWE and WCW were tide in the ratings 5.0 each, and this is each companies rosters.(below)

W.W.F/E - Taker,H.B.K, Bret Hart, Hall, Nash, Luger
W.C.W - Flair, Sting, Hogan, Savage, Giant, D.D.P.

W.C.W. after the transaction: Flair,Sting,Hogan,savage,Giant,DDP,Hall,Nash,Luger
W.W.E. after the transaction: Taker,HBK,Bret

Than you substract Hall, Nash & Luger and add them to WCW. Those are three made Superstars. So the WWE had to make new superstars to gain the balance of power. Not only did they lose top stars, but they lost the ability of making quality matches and quality stories. Which other top wrestlers would Taker, Shawn and Bret wrestler, other than themselves?

So the bottomline is wrestlers more than anything help elevate a wrestling promotion. Especially to the point to compete with one as loved as the WWE is. People grow up watchiing these stars like Undertaker and Shawn Michaels. So if TNA want's to do battle they must acquire many wwe stars or make their own wrestling stars into SuperStars. Or it might require a couple of major WWE stars to jump ship to T.N.A. Wrestlers of the caliber of John Cena, Batista, Edge or Orton.

What if T.N.A. acquire Hogan and Flair? Like WCW acquire Hogan and Savage back in the day? Than follow up by two younger stars like Randy Orton and Edge? Like WCW acquired Hall and Nash. Would those four make the difference and change the balance of power or even things up?

Many might be saying nothing like that will never happen, but never say never.

Which one or two W.W.E. Superstars is big enough to really elevate T.N.A. to another level where they can compete against the W.W.E.?

What will it take for T.N.A. to be more competitive with the W.W.E.?
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Re: What Will It Take for TNA to Compete vs WWE?

I believe that for TNA to compete with the WWE they have to be different. An alternate wrestling company that brings back the 18-30 yr old demographic that is currently occupied by the UFC. TNA has the best complete roster in wrestling no doubt however they need to be treated correctly as some are and also need to be elevated to superstardom instead of "indy guy".

The product in my mind needs to be cutting edge with the element of suprise where literally anything can happen at any time. Matches need to have more meaning and less gimmicks and interference. TNA have potential no doubt but it is whether or not they will cease the day and offer fans great wrestling all the time something that both companies dont do to often. This could be the dawn of a new era if they ditch the stupid kiddy superhero and wrestlers of the 80s crap and replace that with hard hitting smash mouth style wrestling like we saw between Angle and Joe at Lockdown. They also should look to collaborate more often with NJPW as global Impact was awesome and i would love to see more.

I really hope TNA can one day over take Raw in the ratings but we may have to wait a while. If I could bring any 2 guys over it would have to be Shelton Benjamin for his in ring ability and great wrestling. And Rey Mysterio! Now you ask why Mysterio the reason for this is simply to attract some type of young market to the product even if the direction should be more realistic and shoot style wrestling. Mysterio masks sell huge across the globe and this aquistion would be simply for business and draw ability.

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Old 10-01-2008, 07:52 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: What Will It Take for TNA to Compete vs WWE?

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TNA has the best complete roster in wrestling no doubt however they need to be treated correctly as some are and also need to be elevated to superstardom instead of "indy guy".
You mean the best complete roster refering to the x-division wrestler's and the women division; right? Cause the WWE has many great wrestlers.

Is there anyone from T.N.A.r roster that is a mid carder that can get a push and turn out to be like a Steve Austin or the Rock?

I see Robert Roode and Kaz as the two major wrestlers with potential to make a bigger impact, but it's hard to compare them with wrestlers of the caliber of The Rock and Stone Cold. And if Kaz is really suicide, that will only push him back.

I believe T.N.A. should give Wild Cat Chris Harris a second chance and hire him again. He can look to redeem himself just like Steve Austin did with W.C.W. Chris can look to get payback against the W.W.E. I believe fans have underestimated his ability.

Plus he can have a story to tell again versus Cowboy James Storm. Just like when Matt Hardy was hired back to feud with Edge.

One last thing, i belive Kaz still had a little work to do on his mic skills. Proven by some of the interviews he had in the Karen Angle segment. so putting him as Suicide, a wrestler that doesn't speak won't do him any good.
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Re: What Will It Take for TNA to Compete vs WWE?

Of course WWE's roster is larger and more diverse but TNA's has alot of potential. WWE has a more established roster but TNA's X division and knockouts are amazing. I hope Kaz returns also i dont think he is suicide however.
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Re: What Will It Take for TNA to Compete vs WWE?

For one, better actors. If you notice any TNA Promos, most of the wrestlers don't make it realistic. You can tell that their acting from hearing their voice.
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Re: What Will It Take for TNA to Compete vs WWE?

what will it take for tna to compete vs wwe?

probably a good 5 more years of being in existence.
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Re: What Will It Take for TNA to Compete vs WWE?

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Re: What Will It Take for TNA to Compete vs WWE?

TNA's roster is overated anyway. Most of the X-Division guys are just flashy with no substance to their matches, and without Kong and Kim their knockouts division would be worse than the wwe's as far as talent goes.

What will it take for TNA to compete? Several years of a consistantly appealing and entertaining product. TNA need to go back to basics and realise that less is more. You have a stipulation match 2-3 times a PPV no one cares, but if you have a stipulation match like once a month its a far bigger deal and people will care more. You put Abyss and Rhodes or someone in a 10,000 tacks match and it'll be shit no matter how you look at it, yet Styles and Angle went out and produced a MOTYC by just wrestling alone. Their booking is one thing, but how they use their two hours is another. Despite getting another hour, iMPACT is still clusteruck and everything feels incredibly rushed.
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Re: What Will It Take for TNA to Compete vs WWE?

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For one, better actors. If you notice any TNA Promos, most of the wrestlers don't make it realistic. You can tell that their acting from hearing their voice.
This either one doesn't make sense... or two is just wrong. What TNA needs to do is make sure they keep the majority of their happenings in the ring. IE more matches, less promos. The other thing would be to utilize their X division talent. They are more than flashy, though another in this thread have said otherwise. They do have skill and should be given the chance to showcase it more. Anyone who has followed TNA since they lived and died by the X Division will know what I am talking about. They need to not follow in the footsteps of WWE and let their guy put on the better quality product in ring, like they are fully capable of doing. This also goes back to booking and what I have been preaching for awhile. Less stipulations, more clean wins = better product.
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