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View Poll Results: Fire vince Russo?
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Old 08-01-2008, 11:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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T.N.A. Impact.Not Making One.

T.N.A Impact hasn't made one on me lately.And now all you read about is them releasing a TNA star.Tomko out now.
They already lost Rellik,Judas Mesias,Test lasted like one day.Whats up with that? As the Hurricane would say.I just haven't gotten much interest.

You have lot's of wrestlers with old WWF gimmicks,Shark Boy,Curry Man,Black Machismo,Super Eric.These Guys are fun don't get me wrong.Their probally one of the best parts of the show.
Yeah the X division wrestlers.

Karen Angle has as much power as Michelle McCool.Looks like it's good to date or be married to a wrestler.Good one for a thread,l.o.l.

Angle's hog's all the show sometimes.Kaz didn't look good in his interview, neither did Karen Angle.Some one say Green.

Samoa Joe,looks like he's dress in suits every week.What's up with that?(can't help it.)plus he looked paronoid.(Take it easy)Even A.J.Style got me tired.(relax,loosing up)

This Sting story looks alot like the 1st Sting story.The story that got him to turn from the blade runner Sting to the Crow Sting.For those who don't know. Sting was accuse of betraying;lets say the good guys.When it wasn't actually him. It was a fake sting.

That got Sting to feel dishearten by his freinds and their lack of trust in him.So he went on his own and became this much darker version of sting.(Character change was done after the Crow movie)Plus Sting Brought a type of bird that i believe wasn't a crow.It was really big.

Anyway the show has been kind of lame,i also seen this story many time where the Champion title belt has been stolen.
Vince Russo needs some serious help.Cause T.N.A. might be changing there name to Totally No Action. I like to give props to Petey Williams.He did a great interview on the last show.

So is it me or does anyone feel the same way?
P.S. They coppied the WWE by making booker T act more like King Booker.I bet Russo just watches old wrestling Stuff to figure out some ideas.

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Old 08-02-2008, 11:41 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: T.N.A. Impact.Not Making One.

For your poll, i'd like to use some facts rather than opinions. Over the last few months Russo has been given more power with his writing. When Russo was given that power, the ratings were at approx. 0.9. They are now back up to 1.1.

As for the post, pretty much everyone complained about RelliK etc, now people are complaing because he is gone? Seems people just like complaing. Mesias was brought in for the Abyss feud. He did his part of getting Abyss to breaking point which has given us the current Abyss that doesnt want to use any more weapons. Its a good idea because he was over reliant on them. Test wasent signed because he was clearly on something & wanted more money then TNA were prepared to offer.

Shark Boy etc = immitation is the highest form of flattery. I doubt Austin etc are complaing about someone immitating them. Its not a Goldberg/Gillberg situation as its not a piss take. Super Eric needs some work but the rest have made the gimmicks their own. If it wasent for Black Machismo, Jay Lethal would be on Xplosion every week. If it wasent for Curry Man, Christopher Daniels would be getting staler by the day. Shark Boy was a full on jobber, now he actually has a chance of winning matches.

Angle's hog all the show? Kurt Angle had one short segment on iMPACT!. Karen Angle had one even shorter segment.

Joe is supposed to look paranoid as everyone is supposed to be against him. The only person he seemingly trusts is Nash. Everyone complained when he was nice & friendly, now everyone is complaing when he's not? Again people just like to complain.

I wouldnt count the current Joe/Booker story as the belt being stolen. Joe told Booker to hold onto it. Joe is pretty much saying the only way Booker is going to hold the belt, is if Joe lets him. As for the King Booker gimmick, Booker himself said he wanted to continue that gimmick, this is as close as he is going to get. He doesnt wear a crown so its not copying. All he is is arogant.
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For your poll, i'd like to use some facts rather than opinions. Over the last few months Russo has been given more power with his writing. When Russo was given that power, the ratings were at approx. 0.9. They are now back up to 1.1.

As for the post, pretty much everyone complained about RelliK etc, now people are complaing because he is gone? Seems people just like complaing. Mesias was brought in for the Abyss feud. He did his part of getting Abyss to breaking point which has given us the current Abyss that doesnt want to use any more weapons. Its a good idea because he was over reliant on them. Test wasent signed because he was clearly on something & wanted more money then TNA were prepared to offer.

Shark Boy etc = immitation is the highest form of flattery. I doubt Austin etc are complaing about someone immitating them. Its not a Goldberg/Gillberg situation as its not a piss take. Super Eric needs some work but the rest have made the gimmicks their own. If it wasent for Black Machismo, Jay Lethal would be on Xplosion every week. If it wasent for Curry Man, Christopher Daniels would be getting staler by the day. Shark Boy was a full on jobber, now he actually has a chance of winning matches.

Angle's hog all the show? Kurt Angle had one short segment on iMPACT!. Karen Angle had one even shorter segment.

Joe is supposed to look paranoid as everyone is supposed to be against him. The only person he seemingly trusts is Nash. Everyone complained when he was nice & friendly, now everyone is complaing when he's not? Again people just like to complain.

I wouldnt count the current Joe/Booker story as the belt being stolen. Joe told Booker to hold onto it. Joe is pretty much saying the only way Booker is going to hold the belt, is if Joe lets him. As for the King Booker gimmick, Booker himself said he wanted to continue that gimmick, this is as close as he is going to get. He doesnt wear a crown so its not copying. All he is is arogant.
1. I'll start with Rellik,Judas ,Mesias.Both of these guys probally weren't well enogh push from the start.They lost to many matches from the begiining. T.N.A. didn't even care to built them up a bit.Test shouldn't have been brought in the first place, before not being check out. This was a let down on fans expecting new stuff, so it could just fall apart.

2. I wasn't critizicing Sharky,Curryman,S.Eric,Machismo. Its that everything or every character seems to just be a imitation,nothing quite original.I liked them to come up with with original stuff.Not taking away what they done with these guys.It very good.

3. I said Kurt & Karen Angle hog the show sometimes.(check it out)
And many of the segments have been weak.No one can't denied that have hog the show.Leaving less times for other wrestler to get T.V. time.

4. Joe was over paranoid,Isn't he suppose to be a bad ass.He better turn heel then or he will be one wuss Baby Face.Booker T doesn't put a crown ,because it would be quite obvious,plus they could probally get sued.Since he decided this change he has wear a rope;come on.

Plus the reason he turn heel was to go for the World title,because management ask him. So it could be a face vs heel feud..The belt story was just throwing out the point.If you believe it stolen or not it looks like the same stuff.Rock took Austin belt.Was it Edge who had Cena belt.Anyway i seen something similiar done many times.

The Russo Ratings,well let the fans decide that one.Remember Gee O Dee,it's all in fun,but facts will be facts.Take -Care.
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Re: T.N.A. Impact.Not Making One.

Russo is good when he has someone there that is smarter than him to filter the ideas. I mean Russo was around the WWF in the attitude era but the reason why it wasn't bad was because Vince was there to filter the ideas. But see now in TNA you've got Mantel and Russo. Mantel is dumb as fuck so that's what hurts Russo because he isn't the dumb one between the two. If he has someone there who is smarter than him, it's ok but him and Dutch Mantel, no. Russo just needs somewhere there who's smarter than him to filter ideas.

But of course God is a TNA mark so he's going to be biased of course. Me on the other hand, I don't like or dislike TNA it's just kinda like whatever.
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Russo is good when he has someone there that is smarter than him to filter the ideas. I mean Russo was around the WWF in the attitude era but the reason why it wasn't bad was because Vince was there to filter the ideas. But see now in TNA you've got Mantel and Russo. Mantel is dumb as fuck so that's what hurts Russo because he isn't the dumb one between the two. If he has someone there who is smarter than him, it's ok but him and Dutch Mantel, no. Russo just needs somewhere there who's smarter than him to filter ideas.

But of course God is a TNA mark so he's going to be biased of course. Me on the other hand, I don't like or dislike TNA it's just kinda like whatever.
You can hardly complain about Mantel now. He has been doing the Knockouts since the title came in. Before that you'd have a point but not now.
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No that was Scott D'Amore.
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It was both if you want to get technical. D'Amore did mostly training with some writing while Mantell did mostly writing.
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Re: T.N.A. Impact.Not Making One.

I kind of like what "ric flair" said about Russo being good when he has someone to filter out the bad ideas. Russo was very instrumental in making WWE great at the start of the attitude era, however, we have all seen that he is full of bad ideas in equal measure to his good as evidenced by some of his gimmicks in wwe like beaver cleavage and lets not forget some of the disasters that took place under his watch at the end of the wcw tenure such as putting the belt on David Arquette.

TNA is entertaining to watch sometimes and I am a frequent watcher of TNA as well as the 3 WWE programs. The actual wrestling in TNA right now is actually pretty good. I would say the in-ring action on TNA is more entertaining than WWE. The X-division is great. I have a little brother who doesn't watch wrestling, but he'll sit down and watch TNA with me and won't watch WWE because he says "WWE is all punching, at least they are somewhat athletic on TNA". I definitely see his point. I think a lot of TNA's problem right now is that when I watch it, the product just looks way too overfiltered and edited. I know it's a taped show, but they could at least try to make it look live. I hate how you can't watch a match with out the cameras changing every 3 seconds. Seriously, the camera changes view 3 or 4 times every 10 seconds. The viewer gets no objective sense of the match when they have to look at different views every second. The cameras changing so much also reminds the viewer that the show has been taped and edited. I also hate how every time a wrester comes in for an entrance the entire screen changes to a highlight package. Like I said before, things like this give the viewer a sense that the product is overfiltered and edited. When I watch wrestling, I like the feeling that something spontaneous or unexpected could happen. I have never felt like that watching TNA.

Lastly the acting in TNA is terrible. Why does everyone act like they are hyped up on adderall when they are giving TNA promos. It makes everything just seem fake. Everything just seems so rushed, as if they are trying to squeeze it all in. I know wrestling is a staged show, but I like for things to at least seem genuine. The only people in TNA that can give a decent promo are Booker T, the Dudleys, and that's about it. I don't know if TNA pushes the wrestlers to act all hyped about everything but they need to stop. In all the TNA product just seems very plastic outside of the in ring action. If TNA could get the production of the show on par with the in ring action, then TNA might one day be able to compete with the WWE. Like I said before, I think the TNA in-ring action is more entertaining than WWE, but WWE has tons better production (and this is due partly to the fact that WWE has state of the art equipment and the best personnel producing the show that money can buy), acting, and writing so in my opinion WWE puts on a better show than TNA right now.
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