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from what i gather from various reports. dixie is the one really pushing for tna to have an mma feel to it. thing is both are seperate entities. she wants tna to have a look and feel of mma with the seriousness. to me that shit after angle/styles match last week made me change the channel. like points already presented mma fans aren't going to buy into tna like they do to mma. it like putting gobots beside transformers no one is going to believe gobots are transformers. another reason perhaps is to put over ufc which is also on spike.
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If Dixie wants TNA to have an MMA feel to it, surely a good start would be making the product more believable in general. It just doesn't make sense when you have two guys wrestling a realistic fight in an MMA style match, while earlier in the night you had one of the most ridiculous, overly choreographed spotfests I've ever seen.
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Because if I recall correctly, TNA leads into UFC on Spike, and since UFC is big business right now, TNA will probably want to try and get a slice of that pie.
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Because if I recall correctly, TNA leads into UFC on Spike, and since UFC is big business right now, TNA will probably want to try and get a slice of that pie.
Then they should probably start promoting MMA and move away from pro wrestling entirely. I think Vince is right on this - MMA and pro wrestling are different beasts with different appeals. They might have a lot more similarities in Japan, but that's a whole 'nother world.
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...because it actually did? It started in Japan with shoot-style promotions like UWF, PWFG and RINGS which did worked fights but were presented as legit contests with real strikes and submissions. The style is pretty much dead because it offshooted and they stopped "working" the fights. Look it up on wiki or something. MMA came from pro wrestling in Japan.
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I just couldn't let this go along without being corrected. MMA did NOT and I repeat DID not come from pro wrestling. It became popular in Japan when they started doing a transition from pro wrestling, to shoot wrestling, to eventually mixed martial arts events. That is true, but that's only in Japan. MMA has been around in some form for thousands of years and modern MMA started more so in Brazil than in anywhere else. The Gracies and Vale Tudo really deserve the credit for modern MMA because they had MMA fights throughout the 1900's.
Now onto the topic of MMA in TNA. I get that they're trying to do but all in all it's not working and I don't see it working. Most wrestling fans don't like and find it boring and MMA fans and experts find it laughable. Here is an article from a MMA writer from Sherdog about this topic.
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Originally Posted by Sherdog.com
This is the part where I tell you I don’t like professional wrestling, do not watch professional wrestling, and do not possess the neurological tools necessary to understand professional wrestling. It exists beyond my ability to appreciate it. In deference to pro wrestling fans that are consistently embittered by my reaction to grown men in role-play situations, it’s possible I’m simply not intellectual enough to spot the sport’s nuances. I’m sure this is it.
But even the most dyed-in-the-wool fan has to have a problem with wrestling’s latest gimmickry: aping a shoot-style MMA template in the service of a choreographed match. During Sunday’s “Bound for Glory” TNA attraction, hybrid fighter/actor Bobby Lashley engaged in something billed as a “submission” contest against the very dangerous Samoa Joe. The contest ended when Lashley applied a choke.
If we accept that wrestling works for some because of its broad physical showmanship, I’m lost on the purpose of replicating submission grappling -- often a fairly low-key game of inches -- in order to satisfy their expectations of mega-violence. In an era where you can get the real thing on television free and regularly, what purpose does a fake armbar serve, exactly? (I’m honestly wondering: a valid explanation gets a prize.)
TNA’s preoccupation with MMA did not end with Lashley: during a women’s bout on the same telecast, semi-pro fight athlete Kim Couture was heard to be attacking a competitor off-camera. She later posted that her victim ”needs to stick to the fake stuff” on Twitter. Couture fights Kerry Vera November 20 for Strikeforce. I sincerely hope she doesn’t get confused.
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Machida successfully defending the UFC Light Heavyweight Championship with his face.
Maybe I worded wrong, I didn't mean MMA was non-existant before pro wrestling, just that it evolved from pro wrestling. I'm not a big MMA guy, but wasn't UFC started due to the popularity of MMA/shoot-fighting in Japan?
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Maybe I worded wrong, I didn't mean MMA was non-existant before pro wrestling, just that it evolved from pro wrestling. I'm not a big MMA guy, but wasn't UFC started due to the popularity of MMA/shoot-fighting in Japan?
Not really. The UFC started really as a way to bring Brazil's 'Vale Tudo' culture to the U.S. and also show Brazilian jiu-jitsu superiority over other martial arts systems. Also it was to bring to life the legend of Rickson Gracie, who was touted as the most dangerous fighter on earth.
Rickson declined the inaugural UFC tournament after seeing he would not be able to draw as much money as Mike Tyson, and sent his little brother in his place: Royce Gracie.
It was their belief that Vale Tudo could become as big and respected as boxing, but with the drama, unpredictability and fanaticism of U.S. style professional wrestling.
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