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This might seem very obvious to anybody who is familiar with the product, but I think it needs to be discussed. Most people who watch the show will happily admit that Impact is at the very least entertaining, even if it isn't perfect, doesn't contain much wrestling, isn't what they would normally look for in a wrestling show etc. The fact is it's well written, entertaining and provides a different kind of show to WWE. The problem is, TNA PPVs, for my money, are not just disappointing, they are flat out diabolical.
This would support my theory that TNA is about characters and angles/swerves rather than actual wrestling. When it comes down to producing 3 hours of predominantly wrestling matches, TNA just can't do it. I can only think of one TNA PPV match I would consider anywhere near great in the last 2 years, and that was Angle vs AJ Styles in a last man standing match last year. As well as the poor standard of wrestling caused by poorly booked matches, there are often ridiculously bad segments and general overbooking which always harms PPVs.
TNA have the talent, and their wrestlers do well elsewhere. Christian rarely if ever produced good matches in TNA, yet on ECW he's pretty great. The ROH guys in TNA always put on great matches in ROH and other indies, but not in TNA. A few years ago when TNA became popular, the wrestling quality was the main reason for this.
Now, I'd say 4/5 of the worst PPVs I've ever seen are TNA ones, and you could actually argue that December 2 Dismember is better than any 2009 TNA PPV, because it had one good match.
Surely there is something TNA can do to improve the quality of wrestling on their PPVs? I guess stop pushing washed up has-beens would be the obvious answer, but something has to be done, because people won't keep buying this shit forever.
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Stop putting gimmick matches that have no purpose or advertisement on iMPACT and use the TV shows to hype the PPV. Then on the PPV, tell the wrestlers to bring their best. Pair wrestlers that can work well together and have them work a program... AJ Styles is not going to pull a good match out of Kevin Nash, I'm sorry. Especially when no one gives a flying shit about them or why their fighting. That comes after they fix the uninspired bullshit they call booking, however.
And so on... it's just the retarded booking to stop. Prove it to fans on iMPACT and they may be interested in buying a PPV. At the moment, I won't even pirate a PPV, that's how shitty and nonsensical the product is.
And no electrocutions.
Nothing good has ever come from an electrocution in professional wrestling.
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Okay, I'm going to give you that this Pay-Per-View was absolute shit, because it was, but I wouldn't go nearly as far as to say that DTD was better than every PPV that they've done this year.
-Genesis was great, with the exception of the six women tag match and the existence of Kip James. Among some other matches, Sabin/Shelley, Lethal Consequences vs. BMI vs. Morgan and Abyss, as well as Jeff Jarret vs. Kurt Angle.
-Against All Odds was horrible, but they did have two good matches in Young/Shelley and BMI vs. Lethal Consequences
-Destination X was horrible, with two good matches in Booker/Styles and the Ultimate X match.
-Lockdown was good. Unlike Genesis, there weren't any great or near five star matches on it, but it was consistently good. Lashley showing up was also notable on this show.
-Sacrifice was good. This was about as good as Lockdown, so it was alright.
-Slammiversary was great and had some pretty damn good matches with a great match in the KOTM. I think Daniels/Douglas was the only thing bad about that show.
-Then yes, Victory Road was absolute shit.
So no, its not like they consistently put on crap, its about every other month. Also the Impacts have been having quite a bit of wrestling lately. In fact this last Impact had about a half an hour.
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Sacrifice 2008 is the prime example of A terrible, counterproductive PPV.
- An overstuffed card.
- A tag team tournament based around odd couple tag teams, and the finals consists of two regular tag teams.
- They but James Storm & Robert Roode together as a team about two weeks later. When they could've used the tournament as a way of putting them together.
- One third of their main event couldn't wrestle on the show, he was replaced with Kaz. Sting had been eliminated in the first round, they could've used him as a suitable replacement.
- A.J. Styles fucking up the pinfall in two matches.
- Ruining Kong's aura in one crappy 5 minute match.
At the same time, Sacrifice was also like a typical TNA PPV.
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The main reason TNA PPV's are not selling is because they give all their main event matches away for free on TV and than try and get people to buy the PPV to see the same match they have been seeing on TV for 2 or 3 weeks. Even with older wrestlers like Nash or Sting, they can draw if they give their story lines more time to develop rather than constantly put them in matches every week to try and get a higher weekly television rating.
Now, I'd say 4/5 of the worst PPVs I've ever seen are TNA ones, and you could actually argue that December 2 Dismember is better than any 2009 TNA PPV, because it had one good match.
I'm sorry, what was this good match at December To Dismember? What I remember was an abortion from start to finish.
So no, its not like they consistently put on crap, its about every other month. Also the Impacts have been having quite a bit of wrestling lately. In fact this last Impact had about a half an hour.
How is that every other month any better, and how is half an hour in a two hour show, "quite a bit of wrestling"?
As for what TNA need to do to to improve their PPV's. It's mostly been said already. Don't whore out gimmick matches on TV, and don't use them so regularly in general. Use the vetrans to put over the young guys, instead of burying them. Write storylines that last longer than a month so people have time to care about them. Write storyline that make sense. Swerves are cool sometimes, but swerves for the sake of swerves are annoying, and more than one a year is down right idiotic.
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I'm sorry, what was this good match at December To Dismember? What I remember was an abortion from start to finish.
Nah. Hardys vs MNM was a good match, and even the Chamber was a good match actually. People just shit on it because of the admittedly awful finish and the fact that it was the start of the Lashley reign.
In my mind:
December 2 Dismember - 2
Most TNA PPVs this year - 0
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Re: TNA can't do PPV
The quality of TNA PPV's can be summed up by the fact Me and Raiz along with about 3 or 4 others go round to our mates flat to watch all WWE and UFC PPVs and we used to watch all TNA shows too however nobody could be feckered with TNA after we just got frustrated with the shitty swerves and run-ins ruining every match that was starting to look half decent.
After the House show they did in manchester where the wrestling was fantastic, it showed to me how much TNA ruin their product with crappy booking.
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