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If equality went that far, then I could punch a woman. Obviously it is worse when something brutal happens to a female. It goes without saying.
Stop sniffing the glue man. It was Taylor Wilde who threw Daffney into the tacks. To the best of my knowledge, you did not have a sex change, you are still a man.
And you have just shot yourself in the head. You havent even seen the match yet you feel the need to complain about it?
Well unless I watch the match and find out she DIDN'T get thrown on tacks, I don't see the problem. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 20 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
I'm complaining about the spot, not the match.
And neX, even so, it goes without saying that its worse having women do violent spots.
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Why what is wrong with having women do spots? They are trained in wrestling the same way as the men. If they are willing to do the spot, and it can be done safely, I see no problem with it. In fact, it seems just sexist to me that you'd rather see them model then actually go out there and wrestle like the men.
Once again, big difference between wrestling and getting thrown on tacks. Even men getting thrown on tacks is outdated, but TNA are just trying to recreate the Attitude Era. Things like that probably should have died out in wrestling, nevermind done to women.
Again, stop bringing up that she agreed to do it or was happy to do it because thats irrelevant, its just a terrible way to try to make the product interesting by having women brutalize each other.
Yes its something new, but its also shit.
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I forgot to mention Roxxi blading as well. Such a cheap way to try to get people interested in the product.
I thought she legitimately got busted open because of a messed up spot with a ladder. I mean, the cut was pretty high up past her hairline. I could be wrong though, I just thought she got knocked with the ladder the wrong way and actually did get busted open.
I don't get what is wrong with women getting thrown in tacks. She was thrown in by Taylor Wilde, another woman. I agree it really is pointless and they pander to weapons far too much. But TNA's woman's division is more focused on wrestling. What better way to separate it from eye candy by having them covered in tacks?
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"I'm harder than any alcohol you can drink. I'm straighter than any line you can snort up your nose. And I certainly can hurt you a lot faster than any pill you put on your tongue."
The fact that they feel the need to use tacks as a symbol for "wrestling" sums up the company lol.
The Gail/Kong feud has done more to set the Knockouts apart from the WWE womens divisions than any hardcore shit.
And about Roxxi, it looked like a blade to me. Wrestlers often blade on the top of their head, and they were hyping it as part of her hardcore gimmick.
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The fact that they feel the need to use tacks as a symbol for "wrestling" sums up the company lol.
And about Roxxi, it looked like a blade to me. Wrestlers often blade on the top of their head, and they were hyping it as part of her hardcore gimmick.
Are you talking about when she got busted open in the hair vs hair match? Because that was before she was being hyped as a hardcore wrestler. I believe that is what inspired them to start pushing her as this hardcore Knockout. Or are you talking about when she faced Kong and obviously bladed?
They don't have weapons in all their matches. You're having Abyss, Stevie Richards, and Abyss all in a match. Plus, as we have seen, Daffney who is more of a hardcore styled woman's wrestler anyway. All these people are hardcore wrestlers. Sure it may not be as popular as it once was but it is still a style of wrestling that a lot of people enjoy.
It isn't like TNA has this in every match. The X Division is still fantastic when they give them the time and the tag division is also pretty solid. Beer Money have a great gimmick going and Team 3D will always be solid legendary tag team wrestlers. The idea of 10,000 tack match between Taylor Wilde and Daffney doesn't really get me excited but it is keeping them busy.
We all know TNA isn't the best at booking and they often book things we question beyond belief. But at least it is something different from WWE and ROH. It gives me a different flavor, whether it be a good or bad. Variety is the spice of life my friend.
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"I'm harder than any alcohol you can drink. I'm straighter than any line you can snort up your nose. And I certainly can hurt you a lot faster than any pill you put on your tongue."
What's reprehensible is that they'd waste a violent gimmick match on such a stupid feud. Good for Daffney that she wanted to do it or whatever, but I couldn't care less.
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CZW is also something different but its still terrible and a joke of a company. The argument that "its different so it must be good" just doesn't work in my opinion. You have to explain why its good rather than just saying it isn't WWE. The irony of course is that all they seem to do is try to copy WWE. Maybe not the WWE of today, but TNA is at least a decade behind the times.
As for Roxxi, you said she has bladed for sure at least once so it doesn't matter which time I am talking about.
I'm not saying everything in TNA is hardcore but they certainly use tacks, barbed wire, glass and all that way too much. They shouldn't necessarily be used at all, but TNA having matches like 10,000 tacks on Impact just makes hardcore worthless, and I do believe wrestling should have moved on from making people jump onto tacks for people's amusement. At least when Foley did it it had a great story behind it.
On a side note, I dislike the X Division. I think that is a great example of what Steve said: TNA not understanding wrestling so instead just throwing together a load of random moves and spots with no care for psychology, just to get the fans to chant.
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