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Not going anywhere? If he beats Bob Sapp, his mma career is going to sky rocket. He'd probably be in the UFC right after or at least in TUF, which I think he'd win.
yeah if you say so, but i dont think beating Bob Sapp proves anything unless he knocked him out. See the difference between Lashley and Lesnar is that Lesnar finishes his opponents in seconds.
yeah if you say so, but i dont think beating Bob Sapp proves anything unless he knocked him out. See the difference between Lashley and Lesnar is that Lesnar finishes his opponents in seconds.
When has Lesnar EVER finished an opponent? You've obviously never watched any of his MMA fights.
He beat Min Soo Kim, a guy way smaller than him in his first fight by laying and praying. He lost to Mir due to a rookie mistake that got him put in a leg submission. He beat knocked Heath Herring huge with the first punch in their fight but he couldn't finish, so he laid and prayed once again. Impressive, but he didn't finish. He got the knockout on Couture but that was by no means him trying to finish, it was just a fucking hard punch that knocked the dude out long enough for the ref to call the fight done.
Lesnar hasn't finished anybody yet.
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Not going anywhere? If he beats Bob Sapp, his mma career is going to sky rocket. He'd probably be in the UFC right after or at least in TUF, which I think he'd win.
Well, he really has to do something impressive if he does want to wind up in UFC, because I'm quite sure that Dana only has eyes for Lesnar when it comes to pro wrestlers turned MMA fighters.
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People like Lashley because hs is a beast. Thats hwo he was noticed in the fans eyes. Then he got his chance and for me he showed it. Wrestling wise he's nto great but as a powerhouse brute he is great. Mic skills can only grow and nto get worse.
This will only do good things for TNA so i dont see why people r hating
People like Lashley because hs is a beast. Thats hwo he was noticed in the fans eyes. Then he got his chance and for me he showed it. Wrestling wise he's nto great but as a powerhouse brute he is great. Mic skills can only grow and nto get worse.
This will only do good things for TNA so i dont see why people r hating
No one is hating. It just looks bad to the media and sports world(besides pro-wrestling fans) for someone to be "fake" fighting and real fighting.
Well, he really has to do something impressive if he does want to wind up in UFC, because I'm quite sure that Dana only has eyes for Lesnar when it comes to pro wrestlers turned MMA fighters.
And you are basing this on what? Where exactly has Dana White and the UFC shown that they are somehow above looking at pro wrestlers not named Brock Lesnar? He isn't the first former pro wrestler to step into a UFC cage...
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And you are basing this on what? Where exactly has Dana White and the UFC shown that they are somehow above looking at pro wrestlers not named Brock Lesnar? He isn't the first former pro wrestler to step into a UFC cage...
How about straight from the horse's mouth?
Dana White on Bobby Lashley: "Who?"
"I don't think so. We brought in Brock Lesnar because he's a great wrestler. He's a big guy, I thought he should have taken some fights in some smaller shows, but he assured me he was ready and I believed him and he was right, thank God. I don't know how many people can cross over and do what Lesnar has done. I don't think there's many out there."
And of course he's not the first former pro wrestler to fight in UFC. But if you look at the number of guys who have made a name for themselves in WWE prior to fighting in UFC since the advent of Zuffa in 2001 this list shrinks significantly to the point where I'm not sure you could name anybody but Lesnar. If I'm wrong, point it out -- I haven't followed MMA for all that long.
I wouldn't say Lashley doesn't have a chance, that's not even what I'm trying to insinuate, but he's not gonna get anywhere near the deal that Lesnar did coming in so quickly. He's gonna have to build up a bit of a resume first as an MMA fighter. At that point he's not just a professional wrestler anymore.
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"I don't think so. We brought in Brock Lesnar because he's a great wrestler. He's a big guy, I thought he should have taken some fights in some smaller shows, but he assured me he was ready and I believed him and he was right, thank God. I don't know how many people can cross over and do what Lesnar has done. I don't think there's many out there."
And of course he's not the first former pro wrestler to fight in UFC. But if you look at the number of guys who have made a name for themselves in WWE prior to fighting in UFC since the advent of Zuffa in 2001 this list shrinks significantly to the point where I'm not sure you could name anybody but Lesnar. If I'm wrong, point it out -- I haven't followed MMA for all that long.
I wouldn't say Lashley doesn't have a chance, that's not even what I'm trying to insinuate, but he's not gonna get anywhere near the deal that Lesnar did coming in so quickly. He's gonna have to build up a bit of a resume first as an MMA fighter. At that point he's not just a professional wrestler anymore.
He basically just put Lesnar over and paved the way for a bailout if he followed the same road with Lashley and failed. Besides, Lashley doesn't have the star power that Lesnar did, which is why he would only get in as quickly by competing in TUF, which he has stated he would be willing to do. Until he becomes more popular, he's not getting a shot. And when he does, you can bet that he'll go the same route that Lesnar has. I wouldn't be surprised to see them fight in a year or two.
"I don't think so. We brought in Brock Lesnar because he's a great wrestler. He's a big guy, I thought he should have taken some fights in some smaller shows, but he assured me he was ready and I believed him and he was right, thank God. I don't know how many people can cross over and do what Lesnar has done. I don't think there's many out there."
And of course he's not the first former pro wrestler to fight in UFC. But if you look at the number of guys who have made a name for themselves in WWE prior to fighting in UFC since the advent of Zuffa in 2001 this list shrinks significantly to the point where I'm not sure you could name anybody but Lesnar. If I'm wrong, point it out -- I haven't followed MMA for all that long.
I wouldn't say Lashley doesn't have a chance, that's not even what I'm trying to insinuate, but he's not gonna get anywhere near the deal that Lesnar did coming in so quickly. He's gonna have to build up a bit of a resume first as an MMA fighter. At that point he's not just a professional wrestler anymore.
Sorry, I read your comment as saying that the UFC would not ever consider Lashley. They will, if - as you said - he wins some fights and makes a name. No one is likely to get the Lesnar treatment again. Not from a pro wrestling background, Olympic wrestling, or wherever. That was a huge huge risk that the UFC took and it nearly backfired when Lesnar lost to Mir.
You have to remember to take pretty much everything that Dana White says with a grain of salt. He's a promoter and he looks at what sells first and foremost. This is the same guy who has constantly bashed the best fighter in the world, despite that fact that same fighter took less than a round to destroy the two most significant UFC heavyweight fighters of the past 7 years. Why does he bash Fedor? Because Fedor is not in the UFC. Moreso than anything else, White and the UFC have shown time and again that they will go with what sells. They gave Lesnar a chance because of that. They put Ken Shamrock in the cage against Tito Ortiz - twice - when it was clear he as done and had nothing left, but they knew he still had name recognition and would sell. So if Lashley shows he has some actual talent in the UFC, its likely the UFC would realize they can sell him, and he would get a chance.
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He basically just put Lesnar over and paved the way for a bailout if he followed the same road with Lashley and failed. Besides, Lashley doesn't have the star power that Lesnar did, which is why he would only get in as quickly by competing in TUF, which he has stated he would be willing to do. Until he becomes more popular, he's not getting a shot. And when he does, you can bet that he'll go the same route that Lesnar has. I wouldn't be surprised to see them fight in a year or two.
OK let me backtrack, lol. Don't pay attention to me while I create a diversion and disappear.
Actually, I respect all the points you just made. Time for you to call check mate.
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