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    The Official Independent Wrestling Discussion Thread

    Seems like a good thread that could get some good discussion. Talk about whatever pops into mind, wether it be the indy scene, Japan or Mexico.

    So then, best junior in the world?


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    I don't know. All I know is that Mistico is awesome.


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    I forgot the requirements to be a junior

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    I solemnly swear I am up to no good


    Quote Originally Posted by Steve
    I stopped reading when it became clear it was the same butthurt smarkf*g "real wrasslin'" crybaby rant on every youtube vid featuring Cena.



    Quote Originally Posted by Buff Bagwell on John Cena
    But I think he's bigger than Buff Bagwell. I really do.
    [02:00 AM] Dakstang : girls ain't dudes


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    Mistico is awesome, his selling can be way over the top, but hes pretty much everything you could ask for in a wrestler.


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    Junior qualifications plz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve
    I stopped reading when it became clear it was the same butthurt smarkf*g "real wrasslin'" crybaby rant on every youtube vid featuring Cena.



    Quote Originally Posted by Buff Bagwell on John Cena
    But I think he's bigger than Buff Bagwell. I really do.
    [02:00 AM] Dakstang : girls ain't dudes


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    The best junior in the world currently is Bryan Danielson, in my opinion. I'd say the best junior of all time is Jushin Liger.

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    Junior is like 220 and under Ken, so it's cruiserweights basically but proper wrestling term is junior.

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    Thank you Suffy. Now adays in the entire world? Shelley. In Indy/Other... Danielson or KENTA. Or mistico.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve
    I stopped reading when it became clear it was the same butthurt smarkf*g "real wrasslin'" crybaby rant on every youtube vid featuring Cena.



    Quote Originally Posted by Buff Bagwell on John Cena
    But I think he's bigger than Buff Bagwell. I really do.
    [02:00 AM] Dakstang : girls ain't dudes


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    Kenta isn't really a junior anymore I think he's like Marufuji he was but he's put on enough weight to be qualified as a heavyweight.

    And it's Danielson bar none.

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    KENTA is still a junior although he does work with heavyweights fairly often. He hasn't bulked up significantly or anything, whereas Marufuji has.

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    Then Kenta should be World Champ in Japan imo since he can legitamately fight for that gold because imo he's the best junoir. I love him man.

    BTW, was it ever discovered that Japanese stars use steroids or is it like there just like that? because in the US steroids are like big in wrestling and is used a lot. So I want to know if any Japanese wrestlers have done it.

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    I really don't know but since the Japanese take wrestling more as a sport/competition than the US I really think they would have too much pride for that, I'm not sure that's just an argument I see against steroid use in Japan but I couldn't tell you.

    And Kenta won't hold the GHC Title for a while, espicially when the champ can't possibly play underdog the entire time which is what I think Kenta does best. Kenta is at his best when he is trying to show up the bigger/better man not when he is controlling the match because all he has is his kicks and the falcon arrow.

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    His kicks are freaking stiff tho. I love when he jumps over the ropes like hes going to do some sick shit to you but lands on his feet and kicks you right in the head.

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    Kawada had stiffer kicks back in the day, Misawa's elbows are probably stiffer than his kicks, Kobashi's thousands of chops may be just as bad as his kicks, stiffest doesn't matter.

    And that move is fun the first few times but after a while it gets played out.

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    That move really pisses me off now when I see it.

    Kawada's kicks > all

    Why? Because he WILL break your face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suffy View Post
    Kawada had stiffer kicks back in the day, Misawa's elbows are probably stiffer than his kicks, Kobashi's thousands of chops may be just as bad as his kicks, stiffest doesn't matter.

    And that move is fun the first few times but after a while it gets played out.
    I agree tbh. When I first saw it I went crazy but now I don't as much.

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    KENTA can be very repetitive, but that doesnt make him anyless great. It's not like his limited or predictable, just samey.


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    I saw KENTA live at Reborn Again, and it was incredible. His stiff kicks live are so much better than just watching them on the computer, actually hearing them go all around the arena is soooooo much better.

    But I think Fuji was much better that last night, though both are incredible.



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    Personally I prefer Marufuji, but thats not taking anything away from KENTA. If it hadnt been for Japans fucked up booking I would say he's GHC material.


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    ROH live events are very fun. More so then WWE. ROH GBH night II was good. I just wish I had more experience at indy shows to know what to go. The sounds echo through the arena like when Jay and Mark put Necro through a steel chair. You could hear it loud and clear. The set up of the show is just well put. I blame my brother for the horrible experience since he decided to get in his car and drive me there late.

    I watched Marufuji vs. Danielson at ROH Final Battle '05 and he totally no sold his leg when Danielson was working on it which pissed me off.

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