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    Re: Random Wrestling Talk

    Quote Originally Posted by Marketh View Post
    Wait, what? I don’t recall this at all.
    It was in the build to his Summerslam match with Shane McMahon in 2003. He held Linda's arm behind her while he looks at her breasts....
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    I was never a huge ECW fan back in the day (still not tbh), but was watching some old ECW videos on YouTube last night and had a question about their tag matches.

    Was it ever explained why some matches followed tag rules (one man in the ring and the other on the apron) and yet the rest of the match had no rules? I was watching one match that had a table set up in the corner being used as a weapon, and yet partners were still standing on the apron like nice boys because they weren't the "legal man". If there are no DQs, why would you ever bother waiting patiently on the apron for a tag?!

    My understanding is that they'd occasionally write it off as "sportsmanship", but then sometimes you had heels abiding by the rules as well, which doesn't really make sense. Was it ever explained why, or was it just one of those things where they didn't have an excuse and everyone just went along with it anyway because tag wrestling is awesome?

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    That's just inherently the problem with any "No rules" promotion. I know that in the past, The Dudley Boyz have claimed that they only learned how to properly work tag matches after joining the WWE.

    If you want a kayfabe explanation for why tag matches would start traditionally in ECW, you could say it was an unofficial deal made between both teams. They'd follow tag rules, allowing for one member of each team to always be resting and aware of what's going on, but the moment one illegal man comes into the ring, the deal's off and you're forced to work the rest of the match brawling. I suppose to ECW's credit, their more wild teams, like The Gangstas just immediately jumped into the ring to start up a garbage brawl. It makes less sense for a team like them to make those unofficial deals than the more traditional tag teams.

    This sort of style is what caused me to sour on The Young Bucks. They'd work these really good traditional tag matches, but at the half way point all hell would break loose, ruining the story they had created prior to the hot tag.

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    I really hate that AJ's move is called Pele Kick and Finn's is called Overhead Kick.



    This does look more like how Balor does it and this is a literal Pele Kick.
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    I have been watching ECW Hardcore TV 1994 on Friday/Saturday nights for the past few weeks. I've seen shows here and there from this era and read a lot about it but never properly watched through it in chronological order. Really enjoying it, it's just so fucking 90's it hurts. Especially loved the "Whoop There It Is" music video for 2 Cold Scorpio they played that Summer, that song is a part of my childhood. I don't know if it was just a Houston thing or what but that was THE song for a short period of time when I was a kid, I remember the crowds in the Astrodome chanting "WHOOP! THERE IT IS!" during Oilers games. Thats some deep fucking roots nostalgia right there.

    "WHOOP~SHAKA LAKA SHAKA LAKA SHAKA LAKA SHAKA~ WHOOP~ SHAKA LAKA SHAKA LAKA SHAKA LAKA SHAKA~ WHOOP!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShinobiMusashi View Post
    I have been watching ECW Hardcore TV 1994 on Friday/Saturday nights for the past few weeks. I've seen shows here and there from this era and read a lot about it but never properly watched through it in chronological order. Really enjoying it, it's just so fucking 90's it hurts. Especially loved the "Whoop There It Is" music video for 2 Cold Scorpio they played that Summer, that fucking song is a part of my childhood. I don't know if it was just a Houston thing or what but that was THE fucking song for a short period of time when I was a kid, I remember the crowds in the Astrodome chanting "WHOOP! THERE IT IS!" during Oilers games. Thats some deep fucking roots nostalgia right there.

    "WHOOP~SHAKA LAKA SHAKA LAKA SHAKA LAKA SHAKA~ WHOOP~ SHAKA LAKA SHAKA LAKA SHAKA LAKA SHAKA~ WHOOP!"
    Coincidentally, I started a review of a 1994 ECW event yesterday.

    In general, "WHOOP! THERE IT IS!" was huge everywhere, at least in America. It's why Oscar began shouting it during Men on a Mission's entrances.

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    Not only America. I have the CD standing in my shelf.

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    This is a random note, but I just saw Ed's tweet about the 2000 Rumble being 20 years ago and holy FUCK do I feel old. I've got such a clear memory of staying up to watch it on Channel 4 in the UK and getting irrationally angry when they cut to an advert just The Rock was about to start a promo. It wasn't the first PPV I watched by any means, but it was the first that was on terrestrial (ie non-subscription) TV, so it was the first I could watch live rather than wait for a friend to tape it on Sky and let me borrow it a few days later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keefmoon View Post
    This is a random note, but I just saw Ed's tweet about the 2000 Rumble being 20 years ago and holy FUCK do I feel old. I've got such a clear memory of staying up to watch it on Channel 4 in the UK and getting irrationally angry when they cut to an advert just The Rock was about to start a promo. It wasn't the first PPV I watched by any means, but it was the first that was on terrestrial (ie non-subscription) TV, so it was the first I could watch live rather than wait for a friend to tape it on Sky and let me borrow it a few days later.
    Still have my recording of this on a VHS somewhere. What a show.

    And yeah, Channel 4 cutting off the Rock promo just as he was getting to laying into Big Show was infuriating. That, and the fact my Granddad obviously forgot I was taping it and then remembered after switching the TV off at the main and missing the middle of the Tables match was annoying. At least I got the Streetfight though.

    Vividly remember getting up early before school to watch that match. Rewound the tape to a point, switched it on and it was right at the aftermath, with King and J.R sitting at the bloody table. From only ever having Hulk Hogan videos years earlier and WCW on ITV in the early 90’s & Worldwide in the late 90s, I had no expectations for that scene. I’d more visions of the ‘Streetfight’ actually being some goofy brawl in the streets.

    I blame that Streetfight for hooking me to wrestling.

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    What blows my mind isn't that the match/event is now 20 years old, but it took place multiple eras ago.

    Foley/Hunter is a match that I've struggled with over the years. It took multiple watches before I started to really dig it. I've found that the show gets a lot of praise and despite there being moments like Foley/Hunter, the first ever tables match, and the debut of Tazz, the show is mostly a chore to sit through.

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    It's not a great show, I agree. Mae Young showing her boobs is probably the most horrifying thing on a wrestling show ever.
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    Christ, that makes it 20 years since I first started watching wrestling regularly.

    Damn I'm old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf Beast View Post
    Still have my recording of this on a VHS somewhere. What a show.

    And yeah, Channel 4 cutting off the Rock promo just as he was getting to laying into Big Show was infuriating. That, and the fact my Granddad obviously forgot I was taping it and then remembered after switching the TV off at the main and missing the middle of the Tables match was annoying. At least I got the Streetfight though.

    Vividly remember getting up early before school to watch that match. Rewound the tape to a point, switched it on and it was right at the aftermath, with King and J.R sitting at the bloody table. From only ever having Hulk Hogan videos years earlier and WCW on ITV in the early 90’s & Worldwide in the late 90s, I had no expectations for that scene. I’d more visions of the ‘Streetfight’ actually being some goofy brawl in the streets.

    I blame that Streetfight for hooking me to wrestling.
    It's the Cactus/HHH feud that made me a lifelong fan. It was the KOTR Hell in a Cell that made wrestling "cool" in my school, it was the Deadly Game that turned me from someone who liked wrestling to be cool to liking it cos I liked it. But it was the whole Cactus angle, with him realising Mankind couldn't cope with HHH, to losing in an epic match, to Cactus putting his career on the line because he thought he didn't deserve a career if he couldn't beat HHH, to losing the retirement match... that was the moment I realised that, when wrestling is good, there's nothing I enjoy more.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim View Post
    What blows my mind isn't that the match/event is now 20 years old, but it took place multiple eras ago.

    Foley/Hunter is a match that I've struggled with over the years. It took multiple watches before I started to really dig it. I've found that the show gets a lot of praise and despite there being moments like Foley/Hunter, the first ever tables match, and the debut of Tazz, the show is mostly a chore to sit through.
    Ah man, I love the Street Fight. One of my favourite matches ever, and it was the best WWF match for... probably coming on 2 years at that point? Aside from the No Mercy spotfest, it's probably only the 98 Over the Edge main event that I can remember being anywhere close, so "best WWF match for nearly 2 years" at the time felt like a super big deal to me. Was probably my favourite ever match until I started to smarten up to the business and go out of my way to find great matches.

    I don't see the show as a chore at all, personally. Foley/HHH is one of my all time favourites even now, Tazz's debut is great, and I love the Tables Match, it felt like it really signified the start of WWF PPVs being worth seeing outside the main event. And that's 3 of the 6 matches that are all big highlights. Factor in the Rumble, which is by no means the best ever but still has it's moments, plus a super hot crowd, and I'd call the event "great". Not close to the greatest, but a real favourite of mine at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by MC 16 View Post
    It's not a great show, I agree. Mae Young showing her boobs is probably the most horrifying thing on a wrestling show ever.
    As a teenage boy watching that show live, I would agree with the word "horrifying". I thought we were getting one thing, but boy did we get something else...

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    lol at you guys thinking you're old


    i was 19 years old when i watched this show at a bar
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    Damn... Taka hit the MSG floor that hard 20 years ago?

    I'll remember that one even in 2050.

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    Regarding Mae Young at the Rumble, keep in mind that this was the second PPV in a row that had her show her tits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim View Post
    What blows my mind isn't that the match/event is now 20 years old, but it took place multiple eras ago.

    Foley/Hunter is a match that I've struggled with over the years. It took multiple watches before I started to really dig it. I've found that the show gets a lot of praise and despite there being moments like Foley/Hunter, the first ever tables match, and the debut of Tazz, the show is mostly a chore to sit through.
    While I don’t think the show has aged all that well, with a particularly weak Rumble for the most part, at the time, this was amazing to me. With a stronger Rumble match, I think this show is remembered as one of the great Rumble PPVs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Keefmoon View Post
    It's the Cactus/HHH feud that made me a lifelong fan. It was the KOTR Hell in a Cell that made wrestling "cool" in my school, it was the Deadly Game that turned me from someone who liked wrestling to be cool to liking it cos I liked it. But it was the whole Cactus angle, with him realising Mankind couldn't cope with HHH, to losing in an epic match, to Cactus putting his career on the line because he thought he didn't deserve a career if he couldn't beat HHH, to losing the retirement match... that was the moment I realised that, when wrestling is good, there's nothing I enjoy more.
    That match really does have a lot to answer for!

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    Damn... Taka hit the MSG floor that hard 20 years ago?

    I'll remember that one even in 2050.
    They say the floor of MSG still shakes from that impact to this day.

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    Regarding Mae Young at the Rumble, keep in mind that this was the second PPV in a row that had her show her tits.
    Was it? I always thought it was the Kat at Armageddon. At least that’s another reason to never watch that PPV ever again. ... Or maybe reason to check it out right now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf Beast View Post
    Was it? I always thought it was the Kat at Armageddon. At least that’s another reason to never watch that PPV ever again. ... Or maybe reason to check it out right now...
    It was after The Kat did it. Mae got caught up in the moment and tried to do it like Kat, but I believe Slaughter instantly covered her before anything could be seen.

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