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    From a Baby face to Bad guy!!!

    For a better push, turn Heel

    Now in the WWE if your want a bigger push, you have to turn heel.
    Everyone that starts to get a quality push it's starts as a heel.

    Take a look at the list. Edge, Jericho, R.Orton, all had to turn
    heel to get the big push or else it just doesn't last very long.

    Its like the WWE refuses to give them a big push unless they turn
    heel. They don't want them to take the place as the Top WWE
    stars. All the time the same wrestlers are made up to be the hero,
    the victim and the biggest winners. Shawn Michaels, The

    Undertaker, Triple H, and John Cena. thats why they always seem
    the favourites and the better storylines just help them out more.

    C.M. Punk push seemed like a major one, because he had a big
    night.

    Chris Jericho push as a baby face also was made out to be weak.

    I havn't seen Jeff Hardy get a major push yet. It's all been up
    and down.and when he does be champ it probally similiar to C.M.
    Punk.

    It's not the title, that gives you the best push, but the
    storylines and wins you get. Triple H, Shawn Michaels, Undertaker,
    john Cena win most of their matches all the time. And they're always
    in major Storylines.(review the Year) Doesn't the WWE care for
    others except for the veterans.

    It's like C.M. Punk has to be heel to get a good story, and some
    quality wins with top WWE stars. Who did he beat as Champ?
    None of the brighter stars get pushed unless your a heel.Cody
    Rhodes, Ted Dibiase, The Miz, John Morrison, The Brian Kendrick,
    Shelton Benajamin.

    I like to see some one new, be babyface, win the World Title, be in
    major storylines, and win more than half of his matches, but
    cleanly to major Top SuperStars like Triple H, Shawn Michaels,
    Undertaker with out having to lose back to them. Someone other
    than John Cena. Now thats a push and thats the ones that C.M Punk
    and Jeff Hardy should get.

    Matt Hardy won the title; not a major storyline, not a major
    respected World Title, not a clean one on one victory not even a
    respected World Champion.

    I want the WWE leave this legends behind, because in any other
    sports they would have been retired, and much less they wouldn't
    be the top stars unless they were on roids like, Bonds, Clemens
    and many others. Or else, will never live in a new attitude era, but still in the old one.

    Like the Rock use to say out with the old in with the new. Lets just hope it brings new world Champions likeThe Rock , Steve Austin, Mick foley and even Triple H. Who were later followed by Kurt Angle and Chris Jericho among others.

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    Re: From a Babyface to Badguy!!!

    correction: Cena has lost a lot in 2008. still he is more over than just about everyone on the roster.

    because it's ONLY about the stories and how you are portrayed not about win/lose statistics.

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    Re: From a Babyface to Badguy!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by keakzzz View Post
    correction: Cena has lost a lot in 2008. still he is more over than just about everyone on the roster.

    because it's ONLY about the stories and how you are portrayed not about win/lose statistics.
    John Cena has won so many matches and defeated so many wrestler's that losing several matches doesn't hurt him as much as other's. Once you have reach a legendary status like Hulk Hogan loses don't affect your popularity as much as other wrestler's

    Guys like Rob Van Dam, Booker T, Kane, Kennedy have lost momentum cause of losing so much. Cena loses doesn't compare to other's. And how frequently they were losing. Plus you have to take notice the caliber of their opponets and how they won.

    Loses affect especially guys that are trying to reach the next level. You have to establish their popularity at a high level for a good while. How many wrestlers gain some momemtum, than the combination of loses and bad storylines keeps them back. So much behind that people for get how good they actually were.

    But if you are a guy like The Undertaker that been on the top for so long, loses doesn't affect you as much, because no one will ever forget the long periods you had as a top wrestler's. This can't be said to guys that had a glimpse at fame for just two months. It will all fade away on the eyes of fans.

    One example could be Kennedy or Carlito or even M.V.P. they all had short stints of popularity. But if thats all they ever got and they would retire they would be forgotten by many fans. John Cena has reached a point where he can lose most of his matches, but fans have so many great moments to remember him by that his popularity can't be erase like guys that are just starting out.

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    Re: From a Babyface to Badguy!!!

    example for the opposite: Shawn Michaels lost in the main event of WrestleMania XI but still came out more over than he was before.

    guys like Bret Hart have lost countless matches and still got over because they looked like a million bucks anyway. that's the point.

    if Triple H and Jeff Hardy have a real competitive match and Triple H wins without being "dominant" it still has a positive affect on Hardy's popularity despite losing.

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    Re: From a Babyface to Badguy!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by keakzzz View Post
    If Triple H and Jeff Hardy have a real competitive match and Triple H wins without being "dominant" it still has a positive affect on Hardy's popularity despite losing.
    The problem with their last singles match on PPV bck in December of last year was that despite Jeff winning he still looked like a jabroni.

    Triple H dominated the entire match and Jeffs vctory was basically a fluke.

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    Re: From a Babyface to Badguy!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by keakzzz View Post
    example for the opposite: Shawn Michaels lost in the main event of WrestleMania XI but still came out more over than he was before.

    guys like Bret Hart have lost countless matches and still got over because they looked like a million bucks anyway. that's the point.

    if Triple H and Jeff Hardy have a real competitive match and Triple H wins without being "dominant" it still has a positive affect on Hardy's popularity despite losing.
    You said it; Shawn Michaels lost at Wrestlemania. And that's just one lost your mentioned. Not a streak of loses.

    Bret Hart is much like the Undertaker he was already an establish legend.

    Sure the Triple H, Jeff Hardy match might have a positive affect on Hardy, but fans have waited long enough. If he doesn't win now they know it might just be the next time. No big Surprise there.

    Plus i'm sure Edge could have put Jeff Hardy way more over than Triple H has. This feud hasn't gain much heat except for the fact that people are "dying' to see Jeff Hardy win the World Title, no matter the opponent. It has been quite obvious that it has been weak. Let's hope Triple H turns heel. He just sucks as a kiss ass babyface. He's always looking to say these programed jokes they have made up him.

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