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    Midcard Miro



    Rusev, for some reason, was someone that fans were adamant should of been a bigger star in WWE and that the company were doing wrong by him by not pushing him any higher.up the card. When news broke of him leaving WWE there was a lot of talk that the creative chains had been unshackled and now Miro would become a big star in wrestling and show WWE what they were missing when they misjudged his talents and kept him firmly in the midcard. I'm on record multiple times saying I didn't see it that way, he wasn't that great in-ring and that he is a midcard wrestler, and while it's nice to take a victory lap, even I didn't see this coming.

    Well, he hasn't become a bigger star without WWE. In fact, he's significantly worse off in AEW with a horrendous debut month or so where he's essentially replaced Jimmy Havoc as Kip Sabian's tag partner and his gimmick is he's a gamer because that worked out so well for TJP 4 years ago. He is very much midcard Miro, and looks far from a top star in AEW. Even as someone that wasn't a big fan of his, I had more faith in AEW to present him better than they have done. AEW has had a lot of success in giving more creative licence to their wrestlers, but Miro feels like someone the leash should of been kept on because all the twitch talk to promote his own brand should of been toned down

    Is this just a case of a bad gimmick and bad debut from AEW and they're misusing his talents? or is Miro just a midcard guy whatever company he's apart of and WWE were right to never try him as a main eventer. Is it maybe a combination of these issues, plus some lack of motivation from Miro who is just in AEW for an easy payday and being a streamer is his #1 priority now, not wrestling.

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    Re: Midcard Miro

    I went from :D to :d to :l to :/ real quick with him.

    The thing is for me, at this point, I feel like given AEW's track record, it's hard for me to say anything after JUST a month. Dark Order went from the "worst" (I'm using quotation marks because I think you can go back and find me genuinely enjoying them pre-Brodie) acts on the show to one of the most over ones.

    As of right now though, Miro's a complete stinker.

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    Re: Midcard Miro

    Quote Originally Posted by Raye View Post
    I went from :D to :d to :l to :/ real quick with him.

    The thing is for me, at this point, I feel like given AEW's track record, it's hard for me to say anything after JUST a month. Dark Order went from the "worst" (I'm using quotation marks because I think you can go back and find me genuinely enjoying them pre-Brodie) acts on the show to one of the most over ones.

    As of right now though, Miro's a complete stinker.
    I feel like if he turned around one week and destroyed Kip, maybe on the eventually wedding segment, then maybe this whole thing would turn around. But I'm not sure if that's something that was always the plan with this Best Man angle, or they're nixing the angle of them being a tag team because of poor fan reaction so they need to change it up.

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    Re: Midcard Miro

    It's a very rough start, I've already lost interest in him by association with Kip Sabian. Regardless of whether he turns out to actually be great or deserving to just be a midcard cuck gimmick - his popularity and motivation should've earned him the chance to at least come in with a bang right away and sink or swim in a Dynamite main event.

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    Re: Midcard Miro

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed View Post
    I feel like if he turned around one week and destroyed Kip, maybe on the eventually wedding segment, then maybe this whole thing would turn around. But I'm not sure if that's something that was always the plan with this Best Man angle, or they're nixing the angle of them being a tag team because of poor fan reaction so they need to change it up.
    He's definitely turning on Kip, but I can't help but think my reaction wouldn't be "yay Miro's a badass", just "what was the point in this angle?" Right now I'm convinced it's stalling because they got him in too early because he made them think he was about to take a deal with Impact, or something. And they just don't want him going over anyone in current angles.

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    Re: Midcard Miro

    Wow. This feels like premature overreaction but maybe Im not realizing how fast time is going by. I think Miro is fine where he is. He gets to be a presence but there are bigger stories to focus on atm. The smaller focus gives Miro time to get settled in anyhow. They'll pull the trigger on main event Miro when they feel like it but I'm sure it won't be long before Miro gets a chance to really be a star.

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    Thinking about it now, maybe we should be happy that they're not just shotgunning him into something big immediately? There has been talent thats been around longer and is more deserving atm, I'm kind of glad they're not going the TNA route with this.

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    Re: Midcard Miro

    I'm on a very similar wave to you Ed. I liked Rusev in WWE but never bought the idea he was a megastar in hiding, though he does get credit for ideas that got over organically.

    Looking at him in AEW, I think it's less a case of him wanting to be a main event guy, and more just wanting creative freedom over his character and persona. WWE would never have let him be a gamer geek who can whip your ass, which is the persona he clearly wants to carve out for himself.

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    Re: Midcard Miro

    Quote Originally Posted by Raye View Post
    Thinking about it now, maybe we should be happy that they're not just shotgunning him into something big immediately? There has been talent thats been around longer and is more deserving atm, I'm kind of glad they're not going the TNA route with this.
    I agree that t is good that they didn't just throw him into the title picture, but is this really a good way to go with him instead? As a sidekick to someone who isn't really that popular among the fanbase?

    If they wanted to lock him in to avoid losing him to a competitor but didn't have any plans for him immediately upon arrival, there's nothing wrong with just having him squash a few jobbers and lower carders and get his character over at the same time. He doesn't need to be shoehorned into this Sabian angle which is (in my opinion, anyway) not must-watch by any stretch of the imagination. It doesn't help either that the last prominent thing we saw him do in WWE was be involved in a stupid love angle and now he's found himself in the middle of another.

    I'm open to giving him a shot and a chance for AEW to turn things around (like they did with Dark Order), but to me he's been a stinker in AEW so far and the main issue for me is the level they've placed him at and the angle he's become a part of.

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    I think him and Kip are probably tight in real life and the whole angle is their idea. Feels like a case of too much creative freedom for talent when someone up the chain should be putting forward something better instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandalorian View Post
    I agree that t is good that they didn't just throw him into the title picture, but is this really a good way to go with him instead? As a sidekick to someone who isn't really that popular among the fanbase?

    If they wanted to lock him in to avoid losing him to a competitor but didn't have any plans for him immediately upon arrival, there's nothing wrong with just having him squash a few jobbers and lower carders and get his character over at the same time. He doesn't need to be shoehorned into this Sabian angle which is (in my opinion, anyway) not must-watch by any stretch of the imagination. It doesn't help either that the last prominent thing we saw him do in WWE was be involved in a stupid love angle and now he's found himself in the middle of another.

    I'm open to giving him a shot and a chance for AEW to turn things around (like they did with Dark Order), but to me he's been a stinker in AEW so far and the main issue for me is the level they've placed him at and the angle he's become a part of.
    I'm kind of seeing this as a dig to the WWE...this is how to do a wedding angle kind of stunt then take it from there. The thing I am seeing is you can't push him too hard too fast as it'll be the whole of look another ex WWE guy getting pushed to the top straight away thing. Going a different route is fine for me at the moment as it allows a newer fan base to get used to him etc, especially in this weird and wonderful covid world we're living in.

    As for how far he'll go, time will tell. He's got the charisma to be more than a mid-card guy, but does he have it in him to run with the opportunity when it comes around to him?
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    Re: Midcard Miro

    I was a huge fan of Rusev, and felt he belonged in the Main Event. I mean if The Fiend, Seth Rollins, Drew McIntyre, etc can be Main Eventers theres zero reason Rusev couldn't other than him not stroking a McMahon pole backstage.

    I still think he's a worthy Main Event level guy, and yeah while he's not the greatest in ring worker, this fixation on ring work is why Pro Wrestling is so dead no with such an abscence of characters that can resonate with people and personalities that get over, and stories that draw people in.

    His AEW run has been dreadful so far though. Feels like hes got the constraints off and is proving WWE right in not pushing him. His 'Twitch' gimmick is just dumb, sure gaming is huge thesedays. But thats not a Main Event gimmick, thats a comedy jobber gimmick, thats a gimmick that keeps him in the exact spot he was stuck in, in the WWE. There was potential there in that this whole wedding spiel was a shot at WWE, but its gone on too long now. Establish it and then have Miro shit on it and break it all down by destroying what's his name and moving on to bigger things quickly. The guys basically forcing himself into the same role he was in under the McMahon regime. He feels like a prime example of why you do need to reel the talent in and have someone at the top calling the shots on everything. Lost of Wrestlers pitch goofy ass shit, I mean just look at Bray Wyatts entire career.




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    Re: Midcard Miro

    I dont see whats so heinous about Best Friends vs. Miro/Sabian. These guys are good enough to have a solid series of matches, however long it last. And the material writes itself: Best Friends vs. Groom & The Best Man.

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    For me it's not the problem of Rusev/Kip vs Best Friends, it's the way they executed the start of the angle. I didn't like the whole video game set up, with FTR carrying, who was it again, Trent?? back into the ring. It was just piss poor lazy set up. Then to have Rusev come, kick their ass, and have a match? Like did Best Friends get up, look at Rusev, and be like nah we don't wanna kick his ass back? Like what. We don't know what happened, did they have to get helped to the back? Like what happened. It was just so poorly executed.

    What should've happened imo was either,

    a) Have the camera show Best Friends needing help to go to the back after a brutal ass beating, to show why they didn't just jump back in the ring mid-match and start brawling

    b) Have them needing to be held back by referees/officials

    or even,

    c) Have them backstage trying to go back to the ring and kick their ass, but being held back by doctors and officials.

    Like literally ANYTHING, because they just made Best Friends look like shit.

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    Re: Midcard Miro

    I think it's more that he came in hot shooting on WWE for crappy booking and his first program in AEW is a fued with a comedy team over them breaking his video game

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Steventon View Post
    I think it's more that he came in hot shooting on WWE for crappy booking and his first program in AEW is a fued with a comedy team over them breaking his video game
    Pretty much. His "fuck them, I'll show them what they could've had if they let me be me" is just this. If they can get it over like Rusev Day 2.0, great. But Kip and Penelope have done nothing in the last year to make me optimistic.

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    Re: Midcard Miro

    Not a fan of the gimmick at all theres talent there with the two but the angle is pretty bad and devalued miro alot for me



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    Re: Midcard Miro

    I think 'The Best Man' is such an awful nickname. Should've gone with Game Changer or something.

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    Re: Midcard Miro

    I dislike anything associated with Kip Sabian and this unfortunately Miro is apart of that. Miro probably doesn't have much aspirations for his wrestling career so he's with a younger guy and trying to help him out but the gimmick is *cough* Super Bad. In a world where we have had undead Undertakers, dentists and baseball players as gimmicks, twitch and gamer is kinda where I draw the line. It's silly and I just can't take it seriously. Look at the recent Dynamite for example. The Best Friends transitioned into a feud by crashing into Kip Sabian playing a video game. Then Miro is coming out in pure anger over it. It's a poor mix and is off putting. I don't see a future for Miro with this gimmick which is disappointing. I don't mind Miro being midcard but this is just bad TV and makes me not want to see him.

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