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Thread: WCBNAINWOATT Round 1: Kyle O'Reilly vs Mark Briscoe

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    WCBNAINWOATT Round 1: Kyle O'Reilly vs Mark Briscoe

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    Re: WCBNAINWOATT Round 1: Kyle O'Reilly vs Mark Briscoe

    I think Mark Briscoe will come unglued against a wrestler with a big resume as a singles competitor . But against O'Reilly, I think Mark has him beat thanks to being so good in a tag setting for so long.

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    Re: WCBNAINWOATT Round 1: Kyle O'Reilly vs Mark Briscoe

    Fuck.

    I think what's going to do me in here is that I missed a lot of 2000s Briscoes tags which is going to skew my opinion a little because I definitely prefer reDRagon/UE to Briscoes as far as 2010s tag wresting goes. I think Kyle was the tag wrestler of the decade; not the Bucks, not Usos, not Tyler Bate, not Cesaro, but Kyle because he's impressed so well with 2 different partners across 3 different promotions around the world. Also, I don't think I've seen a singles match of Mark that I've enjoyed more than Kyle Vs Shibata from King of Pro Wrestling 2016 which was fantastic, and Kyle had a few great matches in his BOSJ like that day 1 match with KUSHIDA. I think in my mind, if they weren't so pigeon-holed into being booked as tag wrestlers, Kyle would have the better career and the reputation of the being the better wrestler.

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    Re: WCBNAINWOATT Round 1: Kyle O'Reilly vs Mark Briscoe

    Briscoes are/were better than any tag team Kyle has been a part of (always thought reDRagon sucked pre-WWE), and I cannot forget how god awful Kyle was in those Davey Richard clone years. I like the guy in 2020 but as a career retrospective I think there's still more suck than good.

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    Re: WCBNAINWOATT Round 1: Kyle O'Reilly vs Mark Briscoe

    Mark Briscoe is a fantastic tag wrestler. Id even say hes better than Kyle. But Kyle is a damn machine. His single matches hes had in 2015 and 2016 in ROH and PWG push him over Mark by a long shot.
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    Re: WCBNAINWOATT Round 1: Kyle O'Reilly vs Mark Briscoe

    Surprised Kyle isn't getting much love as a singles guy. He's definitely got some good stuff out there, better than any Mark Briscoe singles match I can think of.

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    Re: WCBNAINWOATT Round 1: Kyle O'Reilly vs Mark Briscoe

    The ROH blindspot is gonna kill me when it comes to both Briscoes. I like Mark Briscoe and he is clearly good but I've seen more quality matches from O'Reilly with his PWG run, his Redragon matches in later ROH (which I've seen) and his NXT runs. It's an easy pick right now.

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    Re: WCBNAINWOATT Round 1: Kyle O'Reilly vs Mark Briscoe

    Quote Originally Posted by Postman Dave View Post
    Surprised Kyle isn't getting much love as a singles guy. He's definitely got some good stuff out there, better than any Mark Briscoe singles match I can think of.

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    I'd put the couple big Briscoe vs Briscoe matches above anything Kyle did as a singles guy. Mark was a good 10-15 match guy in singles, I don't think he ever really had many lengthy or "epic" matches on his own.


    Quote Originally Posted by MC 16 View Post
    The ROH blindspot is gonna kill me when it comes to both Briscoes. I like Mark Briscoe and he is clearly good but I've seen more quality matches from O'Reilly with his PWG run, his Redragon matches in later ROH (which I've seen) and his NXT runs. It's an easy pick right now.
    2000s Briscoes are one of the best tag teams ever, Id say you def need to watch more if you think reDRagon were superior

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    Re: WCBNAINWOATT Round 1: Kyle O'Reilly vs Mark Briscoe

    It's more that I've seen more of them than the Briscoes, not that they are outright better than them. I'm definitely going to watch more before Jay pops up because he's really highly regarded compared to Mark and I want to give him a chance.

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    Re: WCBNAINWOATT Round 1: Kyle O'Reilly vs Mark Briscoe

    Gonna be KOR for me. Might be a different conversation if this was Jay he was up against. But as I think I made clear during the best of the decade list, I weigh singles performances a bit greater than tag performances and since they both have great tag portfolios, KOR's superior singles success pushes him ahead.

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    Re: WCBNAINWOATT Round 1: Kyle O'Reilly vs Mark Briscoe

    If Mark and Jay swapped gimmicks and styles, I think we’d think a lot more highly of Mark in the ring. He often delivers when he gets singles opportunities, but because he’s almost a comedy worker on his own, he’s not a guy you’d think to put in big, serious matches.

    But Kyle has had those opportunities and been quality most of his career, so I wouldn’t be shocked to see him take this.

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    Re: WCBNAINWOATT Round 1: Kyle O'Reilly vs Mark Briscoe

    KOR is one of my all-time favs, nothing against Mark Briscoe though


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    Re: WCBNAINWOATT Round 1: Kyle O'Reilly vs Mark Briscoe

    Quote Originally Posted by Markstrom View Post
    KOR is one of my all-time favs, nothing against Mark Briscoe though
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    Re: WCBNAINWOATT Round 1: Kyle O'Reilly vs Mark Briscoe

    What are the Top 5 reDragon tags? Top 3 Kyle singles matches?

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    Re: WCBNAINWOATT Round 1: Kyle O'Reilly vs Mark Briscoe

    Quote Originally Posted by King Steventon View Post
    What are the Top 5 reDragon tags? Top 3 Kyle singles matches?
    Someone else will need to take care of his New Japan stuff, but I'm a big fan of his PWG matches against ACH & Roddy Strong.

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    Re: WCBNAINWOATT Round 1: Kyle O'Reilly vs Mark Briscoe

    I enjoy reDRagon but I think they’re pretty overrated as a team tbh. I love them as characters, promos and singles Kyle more than their tag matches. There’s a few greats in there, but nowhere near the all time best ROH teams.

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    Re: WCBNAINWOATT Round 1: Kyle O'Reilly vs Mark Briscoe

    Quote Originally Posted by King Steventon View Post
    What are the Top 5 reDragon tags? Top 3 Kyle singles matches?
    Kyle singles matches:

    - Vs Shibata - King of Pro Wrestling
    - Vs Kushida - BOSJ 2015 Day 13 and BOSJ 2016 Day 1
    - Vs Sydal - BOSJ 2016 Day 7
    - Vs Riddle - BOLA 2016 (Riddle's PWG debut)
    - Vs Cole - ROH Final Battle 2016

    (you will probably only like the Shibata match)

    I'm guessing you're after reDRagon tags that aren't NXT. The wXw match against Walter and Zack from 2015 is excellent.
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    Re: WCBNAINWOATT Round 1: Kyle O'Reilly vs Mark Briscoe

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed View Post
    Kyle singles matches:

    - Vs Shibata - King of Pro Wrestling
    - Vs Kushida - BOSJ 2015 Day 13 and BOSJ 2016 Day 1
    - Vs Sydal - BOSJ 2016 Day 7
    - Vs Riddle - BOLA 2016 (Riddle's PWG debut)
    - Vs Cole - ROH Final Battle 2016

    (you will probably only like the Shibata match)

    I'm guessing you're after reDRagon tags that aren't NXT. The wXw match against Walter and Zack from 2015 is excellent.
    Seen all of those singles and didn't rate them. I liked his babyface run in PWG a fair bit - the matches there against Hero, Cole, Strong, Gulak and Zack were all good. But that was a relatively small period of his career.

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    Re: WCBNAINWOATT Round 1: Kyle O'Reilly vs Mark Briscoe

    I voted for Mark but I can see why others went with Kyle. I'm mostly with Steve. Never a fan of the Davey Boys run he had but got better, but never bought into him as any kind of BITW or how a lot of people rate him.

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