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    Re: WWE Monday Night Raw Live Discussion - August 12, 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by The EC View Post
    Sure, he's corny as a face but I think you're reaching comparing him to peak Cena who I think was deliberately corny.

    Also not sure what you're referring to. Rollins was getting big pops. The only time they came close to favoring AJ was when Rollins said he had no respect for him anymore. That was more of a "ooh" than a "boo" wasn't it?

    Anyways, looks like Joe is going face. I'm not sure how I feel about that since his heel promos are some of the best in the business. Him vs. Zayn could potentially be amazing. If nothing else it means they can only bury one of them at a time and not both.

    The only way joe as a face works is if they go the takes no shit kind of hard ass gimmick if not its gonna fail hard. Maybe he gets kidnap by ninjas again


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    Re: WWE Monday Night Raw Live Discussion - August 12, 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by Sakura View Post
    I heard the crowd chanting "AJ Styles". :P

    But yeah, the big thing that makes it worth with Seth over Cena......Cena is a great mic worker. Seth is not.
    Really still not a big deal though. It's Toronto and it's AJ Styles. They're gonna show respect to the greats. Funny enough though, even AJ lost a lot of his overness by the end of his WWE Championship run. I blame millenials.

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    The only way joe as a face works is if they go the takes no shit kind of hard ass gimmick if not its gonna fail hard. Maybe he gets kidnap by ninjas again
    Which should be no trouble. The fan wants to cheer Joe anyways. All he has to do is start feuding with faces instead of heels and kicking ass instead of getting his ass kicked, and he'll be good to go.

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    Re: WWE Monday Night Raw Live Discussion - August 12, 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by The EC View Post
    Really still not a big deal though. It's Toronto and it's AJ Styles. They're gonna show respect to the greats. Funny enough though, even AJ lost a lot of his overness by the end of his WWE Championship run. I blame millenials.



    Which should be no trouble. The fan wants to cheer Joe anyways. All he has to do is start feuding with faces instead of heels and kicking ass instead of getting his ass kicked, and he'll be good to go.
    I blame WWE being terrible with booking.
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    Re: WWE Monday Night Raw Live Discussion - August 12, 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by The EC View Post
    Really still not a big deal though. It's Toronto and it's AJ Styles. They're gonna show respect to the greats. Funny enough though, even AJ lost a lot of his overness by the end of his WWE Championship run. I blame millenials.



    Which should be no trouble. The fan wants to cheer Joe anyways. All he has to do is start feuding with faces instead of heels and kicking ass instead of getting his ass kicked, and he'll be good to go.
    Joe is prob the most gifted mic slayer in company


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    Re: WWE Monday Night Raw Live Discussion - August 12, 2019

    Weird choice to bring back KOTR on one week's notice. Whoever wins better not get shackled with a "King" gimmick.

    Also... no face turn for Joe after all I guess. At least not yet.

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    Re: WWE Monday Night Raw Live Discussion - August 12, 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by OMB View Post
    Joe is prob the most gifted mic slayer in company
    He's good, but he's not on Alexa Bliss level, or Miz.
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    Re: WWE Monday Night Raw Live Discussion - August 12, 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by Sakura View Post
    I blame WWE being terrible with booking.
    That too.

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    Re: WWE Monday Night Raw Live Discussion - August 12, 2019

    I love that Corey has done a 180 on Miz.

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    Re: WWE Monday Night Raw Live Discussion - August 12, 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by The EC View Post
    Weird choice to bring back KOTR on one week's notice. Whoever wins better not get shackled with a "King" gimmick.

    Also... no face turn for Joe after all I guess. At least not yet.
    Well, you really can't count on this company to plan more than a week out, so.... that week was really all they could give us.
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    Re: WWE Monday Night Raw Live Discussion - August 12, 2019

    I'm also a very big fan of this new Ziggler schtick. I could watch this forever.

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    Re: WWE Monday Night Raw Live Discussion - August 12, 2019

    When was the last time Rey won? lol
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    Re: WWE Monday Night Raw Live Discussion - August 12, 2019

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    When was the last time Rey won? lol
    Beat Joe... I wanna say more than once.

    Good rub for Andrade. At what point do they do something more with him though?

    As for Rey, I would love for him to feud with Styles. Obviously, Styles will just wipe him out. But it would be a good program I'm certain. They've never had a singles match before.

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    Re: WWE Monday Night Raw Live Discussion - August 12, 2019

    So they've got Austin putting Rollins over now. Shit. They're really leaning into him as the top guy. They better focus on getting him some more interesting material and avoid putting him in feuds against guys like Corbin is all I can say.

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    Re: WWE Monday Night Raw Live Discussion - August 12, 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by The EC View Post
    Beat Joe... I wanna say more than once.

    Good rub for Andrade. At what point do they do something more with him though?

    As for Rey, I would love for him to feud with Styles. Obviously, Styles will just wipe him out. But it would be a good program I'm certain. They've never had a singles match before.
    Ahh.

    They just kind of seem to be jobbing him out, and throwing him in random matches. Often getting him back against Andraded over and over.

    And yeah, Andrade they just seem to have doing nothing big. And Elias, when is he ever going to do more than have an occasional match and his music? It was fun for a while, now it's stale AF. Give him an actual feud.

    Yeah, lol about Austin. They clearly see that he's having issues staying over, and keeping the fans.

    It's like when they tried everything and The Rock to get Reigns over.

    Maybe realize that they are pushing either the wrong guys, or booking terribly.
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    Re: WWE Monday Night Raw Live Discussion - August 12, 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by Sakura View Post
    Ahh.

    They just kind of seem to be jobbing him out, and throwing him in random matches. Often getting him back against Andraded over and over.

    And yeah, Andrade they just seem to have doing nothing big. And Elias, when is he ever going to do more than have an occasional match and his music? It was fun for a while, now it's stale AF. Give him an actual feud.

    Yeah, lol about Austin. They clearly see that he's having issues staying over, and keeping the fans.

    It's like when they tried everything and The Rock to get Reigns over.

    Maybe realize that they are pushing either the wrong guys, or booking terribly.
    Rollins has five (ten?) times the crowd support Reigns did at that time. He's had his lulls but come on... WWE's crowds have not just outright rejected Rollins. At all.

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    Re: WWE Monday Night Raw Live Discussion - August 12, 2019

    No, I'm not saying they have. But he's certainly far from working as a top face.

    Reigns was just terrible.
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    Re: WWE Monday Night Raw Live Discussion - August 12, 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by Sakura View Post
    No, I'm not saying they have. But he's certainly far from working as a top face.

    Reigns was just terrible.
    Fair enough.

    McIntyre def should win KOTR and challenge Rollins. Would love for McIntyre to finally become solidified in the main event. Much overdue. But he better not become King McIntyre, wearing a robe and crown and all that stupid shit.

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    Re: WWE Monday Night Raw Live Discussion - August 12, 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by The EC View Post
    Fair enough.

    McIntyre def should win KOTR and challenge Rollins. Would love for McIntyre to finally become solidified in the main event. Much overdue. But he better not become King McIntyre, wearing a robe and crown and all that stupid shit.
    I agree.

    And tbh, I just don't like Seth as face. He is so much more fun as a heel. He could do okay as a face (not as good), but WWE is floundering it.

    Reigns is just more limited, and they reaaaaaaaally did him nothing but trouble with the horrible forced push.

    Rollins also blows Reigns away in the ring.
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    Re: WWE Monday Night Raw Live Discussion - August 12, 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by The EC View Post
    Weird choice to bring back KOTR on one week's notice. Whoever wins better not get shackled with a "King" gimmick.
    It's better than last time when it was announced on a PPV, began the next night on Raw, and ended the following day on the WWE Network.

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    Re: WWE Monday Night Raw Live Discussion - August 12, 2019

    Good God that Lumbar Check on the floor..

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