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    Re: WWE: Where It All Begins... Again

    Hell…HELL of a opening match/segment. I am actually just starting the storyline with Shane and Kane and this is already better. I personally loved the Kane character during the time period. It was compelling TV and then they went supernatural with it and kinda killed it. Anyways, I hope that RVD is gone for a bit to sell the injury and comes back with a good push. The crossbody reminds me of when Mysterio debuted and I can def see Shane doing that bump IRL.

    Holy crap…HHH put his foot in his mouth by challenging Michaels and then Austin makes it a World Title match. This is going be a hell of a main event.

    O no, trouble is afoot for Spike Dudley…nice Spike gets the victory but the heat gets back onto La Resistance with the table spot and I love them ripping off the Dudley Boys…good segment

    I enjoyed Christian trying to weasel his way out of the potential match with Jericho. I like the slow burn on this feud. I will say that one of my favorite stories ever told in WWE was the Christian/Jericho/Trish Triangle and I hope u put a spin on that b/c again I would pay 1 dollar CANADIAN to read that.

    Good teaser segment here with Evolution. You really have writing TV down well…Very nice Teasers to keep the crowd hooked and willing to stay around to the main event. I love it…plus even though u started the show with a match, we still got a 15 min HHH promo so your 2/2.

    Very good battle royal…I love writing Battle Royals b/c they can further storylines very easily. I loved that you had Jericho have to face the 2 on 1 odds bc it helps his babyface turn. Very good job.

    Looking forward to some Dudleys revenge and I like that you turned the tables (no pun intended) and making it a tables match b/c they used tables. I love ur use of Austin.

    Again just splendid build up to the Main Event with the segment with Orton and Flair…I say there needs to be a mandatory of 3 segments with Evolution each week.

    You are building the hell out of this Main Event…I wanna see a clean finish so bad but you know…realism

    Good way of putting a bow on the Test/Steiner feud, but I would love to see Steiner as Test’s personal assistant.

    His sizeable nose…haha….I like that you have Evolution back on the same page….put I’m going file this episode away for later on in this thread if Orton/HHH start a program.

    Hell of a Main Event…you had me at the SCM to Orton…good call on have a pin-fall victory for HHH rather than a DQ for having Flair break the count…This was def an attitude Main Event IMO but not in a bad way as many moving elements happened at the end of the match after we would of saw a great match between two of the best.

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    Huge, huge, HUGE thanks to everyone who has responded so far. Loved reading all the comments and how people are taking it so far. You're all amazing.

    As I did before, I'll respond to all the feedback in one big post...


    Quote Originally Posted by ranthellacious View Post
    Just getting a chance to make my way through this now. Your opening post, while funny, brought back so many memories haha. That was all during the height of my wrestling love so even when you were making fun of some stuff, my nostalgia for it made me immediately want to go back and watch it. Looking forward to seeing what you do with this time period, it was one hell of a roster, with a ton of potential. Good luck!!
    Oh, no doubt. So much potential in there, but so buried in poor booking that it’ll take a little work to get it out. But when it does, there’s so much that can happen…

    Quote Originally Posted by The Grange View Post
    You really picked a great year to start off with the WWE. 2003 was a fun year. I am already enjoying your work. I like how you color important parts. I will certainly be following where you go from here. Matt Hardy Version Champion btw :p
    Matt Hardy Version 1.0 was a brilliant gimmick. The “buried in poor booking” I talked about above could easily apply to Matt’s career progression over the next 5 years or so really. They could have gone so much further with that gimmick than they did. He’s someone I’m really excited about playing around with.

    Quote Originally Posted by Charlemm1 View Post
    - Excellent heat right off the bat for this smackdown taping. McMahon is like a heat magnet during this time, and I think you really did capture it well. I know a lot of people hated on Vince having such a prominent role during this time, but I think he's the perfect foil to get others over, and it definitely looks like you're following suit. I loved the fact that you had Vince originally cancel the wwe championship match, and just the association with lesnar and his backing...makes lesnar an even bigger heel at this point. Just good solid booking on your part there. I also want to commend you on the amount and level of detail that you put in your segments, even the ones that are subtle. Examples like when you mentioned the tracksuit kurt had on that was a contrast to mcmahon's tailored suit, it allows the reader to get a visual and also utilize the different forces at play. Kurt's promo was strong as well here and his jab about McMahon hating what has made him so much money literally made me crack up laughing, because it's true in so many ways hahah. Kurt and Taker both looked strong as ever here and it builds prestige into your wwe title, which is very important especially during this time period with the world title over on raw. Very good starting point though for smackdown here.

    - Solid match between Tajiri and Meysterio here for the cruiserweight belt. I like the fact that you don't go into a lot of detail for the matches, because honestly in a realistic sense, that would be more of an "agents job" than a writer. But you do press on the important parts of it, and this match alone made Tajiri look like a million bucks, even though meysterio picked up the win. I'm really curious to see where you go with this cruiserweight division, because during this time it really was at it's peak, and you had a legitimate star on your hands with meysterio. Tajiri with the green mist was awesome story telling too in order to give Tajiri more depth to his character. Curious to see where you go with this heel Tajiri.

    - Holy shit bro! I loved the version one character during this time, and you have it nabbed absolutely perfect! Matt's obliviousness during the apa segment was hilarious and just made the fans hate him even more, and want to see him get his ass kicked. The "matt facts" that he brought up were hilarious and really sold him as just the annoying type heel that we rarely see on WWE anymore. His treatment of Shannon is absolute gold right here too haha. Just top to bottom awesome segment that gets a 10/10 from me.

    - The exchange with Brock and Vince was a little odd here, can't say that I dislike it though. It was just odd seeing Brock in such a submissive persona here, but I'm hoping you bring out his monster side later in the night with the McMahon "show them not to mess with me" statement lol. Even above all that though, you have Vince's character and even his dialogue nabbed perfect.

    - Very surprising win for Kidman here! Didn't expect him to get the win, but WGTT didn't lose any steam at all after that vicious attack after the match. Good way to put Kidman over and build the viciousness of WGTT. I'm curious to see if you continue this going forward, especially if kidman gets a formidable tag team partner here.

    - Your John Cena rap coming down to the ring was fucking amazing! It's maybe my favorite thing I've read on this section in months. "flaccid wolverine" haha. It's hard for me to even hate Cena here because you remind me of why I liked him to begin with. Eddie coming off the top rope into a chained fist though was exactly the way it should've went. Guerrero makes for a good US Champ here and I'm kind of looking forward to seeing where else you go with this Guerrero/Cena feud, and if you're gonna add Benoit into the mix at all. It could get really interesting. I can also imagine how frustrating it would be for Guerrero too at this time to get one upped by Cena with the cheating aspect during this time haha. Looking forward to see how and when he gets his revenge, but Cena looked as strong as ever here.

    - Again, you're appealing to my love for the mattitude gimmick lol. Perfectly played and the confrontation between him and the APA was very believable and entertaining. Just extremely well written.

    - Very strong interview/promo from Taker here. He's believable because he isn't just praising Kurt for being the babyface and respect, he is treating it like anyone would in the same situation. He still feels that no one deserves to hold the belt but him, so even if they are on the same side of the fence against McMahon and Lesnar, he still believes that he is the one who should be on top. The dialogue is very accurate as well with him even asking Josh, "we done?" and your minut detail of Josh "sheepishly nodding" lol. Just the amount of detail and precision you put into your characters, the dialogue, setting, etc is awesome and really helps the reader suspend disbelief.

    - A little surprised to see Kidman able to do any sort of interview here lol. I hope it doesn't take too much away from WGTT that their attack wasn't vicious enough. I was hoping we wouldn't hear from Kidman at least until next week to really sell the brutal attack after the match. But good promo from him nonetheless.

    - Lesnar's squash match/monster attack over Jordan was exactly what he needed! I was a little worried what you were gonna do with Lesnar after the McMahon interaction, but boy oh boy did you make Lesnar look like an absolute monster right here. I almost felt sorry for Jordan right here because Lesnar just absolutely destroyed him here. the power bomb on the barricade was just fucking brutal and I love it! Him taking out security too was just...again, making brock look like an unstoppable beast. Clearly the message was sent, I'm just curious to see if you have him get involved in the wwe title match at all. whoever the champion is after tonight is gonna have a hell of a ride set for them when they have to face brock.

    - A five star smackdown match right here between angle and taker, hands down. But lesnar coming in to cause the double dq was perfect right here lol. I like the fact that you didn't just have angle and taker completely disregard their hatred for each other now that brock came in, the stare down between them just really built up the heat. But Big Show coming out was unexpected, but I really like it and his pairing with Lesnar makes them almost a completely unstoppable force. McMahon coming out in the wheelchair and barking orders was just the icing on the cake, and allowed for the show to end with McMahon, Show, and Lesnar having all the heat in the world. I'm curious to see what you do with the wwe title situation and if you make it some sort of fatal four way stip.

    But bro you definitely have a reader in me. I think hands down you have one of the best projects I've ever read on here. The amount of detail that you put in while not being completely over winded with content makes this project enjoyable while not cluttering with unnecessary fluff. I know you're only a couple shows in, but you really did impress the hell out of me with this, and I think in due time you're gonna be the winner of many BTBOTM awards for this project. You have everyone nabbed so perfectly, and not just their personas, but the details of their dialogue, dress, and just overall persona. 10/10 man, hands down.
    The Cena rap was fun to write. I’ve written a couple others for the future too and really enjoyed doing them. They take a tonne of work so it’ll not be an overly regular thing, but I have so much fun doing them I’ll try to keep them up.

    I had to keep Cena strong because he was getting super over around this time, and my thinking was putting him in the ring with Eddie and Benoit can’t do him any harm. They hinted at an Eddie-Cena feud IRL but for some reason never really followed through. I think there’s plenty more mileage to get from it, personally.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sykotic View Post
    Smackdown Review

    Great start to the night with Vince McMahon looking to inhale all the heat from the crowd by cancelling the huge main event. Angle and Taker took care of Vince but I'm expecting tonight's main event won't go down as smoothly as the fans, Angle and Taker hope.

    Solid opener between Mysterio and Tajiri for the the CW title. At this time it is the right move but with Mysterio's popularity sooner or later he will move away from the division. And Tajiri just green mist-ed him!!! Great stuff!! Always been a huge fan of Tajiri around this time.

    Much like the Stacy/Venis segment from Raw the APA/Matt segement was hilarious. Kudos for that.

    Good win for Kidman over Benjamin but he took a little beating afterwards. Kidman might need a partner you know? Where's Paul London at??

    Interesting back and for between Benoit and Eddie, hopefully that is a feud that we can look forward to and salivate over down the line.

    Cena rap!! Best segment of the project so far. Outstanding!!

    Cena steals the win for his team. Nothing too much to write about here.

    Matt Hardy Version 1 can't play poker haha

    Main event went as expected, but I did not see Big Show coming out and now Vince has two large goons to do his bidding for him. Also flash back to earlier, poor Orlando Jordan haha!!! Wondering whether it's Lesnar/Angle or Lesnar/Taker, with Big Show taking the other. Next week already looks great.


    RAW Review

    Let's crack on with Raw while we are here.

    Eventful stat with the steel cage match. Part of me wanted Shane to help RVD win but instead it looks like RVD is set for a spell on the sidelines. Shane's return would have got a huge pop, especially the cross body off the top of the cage. Expecting a brutal encounter between the two when they meet at Unforgiven.

    Ric Flair is a b****rd!!! That is all!!

    Evolution moaning again!!! Great interuptions by Michaels and Austin. If Triple H hadn't insisted on facing Michaels his title wouldn't be at risk tonight. Oh well!! wonder what Randy Orton thinks right now, help Evolution... or challenge for the World Title?

    Things are not looking good for Spike Dudley. Got to love the evil French laughter though. Thought for sure his brothers would come to his aid but La Resistance add insult to injury by 3-D-ing Spike through the table. There will be hell to pay. Elimination Tables Match anyone?

    Calling an Evolution bluff on Oton's part. And maybe we get to see Batista tonight.

    Great win for Jericho and I'm looking forward to a feud with Christian over the next few months. Expecting Christian to permanently end the friendship by cheating to retain the title at Unforgiven. Jericho chasing should be great.

    Tables match!!! Awesome!!! Hoping to see The Dudleys with the titles.

    Oh so Flair puts Orton back on track. This is the running theme of the night you were talking about. Loving it so far. Goldust added a great touch to this segment too. It's those little things that make segments stand out.

    The main event is going to be fun with Goldberg/Michaels also at odds.

    Massive victory for Gail Kim. Push her to the moon.

    Everything has built up to the main event tonight. And it delivered. Goldberg did the right thing but Triple H steals the victory anyway. The cage lowering bit at the end was excellent and I could envision everything from Goldberg ripping off the door to Triple H escaping over the top rope. Goldberg looks primed to take the title at Unforgiven and I'm intigued to see what comes next for him, hopefully not that awful triple threat that ended his run as champ.

    Overall two very good shows and the recurring theme of RAW made for excellent reading. Keep up the great work mate.
    Yeah, the Evolution stuff was the thing I alluded to earlier about a running theme. I’ll touch more on it when responding to Wolfy, but I wanted to have a thread to ensure my imprint was felt, given I feel the need to pay off the stuff I inherited (like the Steiner/Test rivalry).

    As I’ve said before, I really felt WWE missed the boat on Goldberg. To me, he’s the guy who rips the door off a cage and beats two people up. I’m sure I remember the build up to Unforgiven in real life was “can Goldberg overcome Triple H?” The answer is clearly “yes”. The question should have been “can Triple H possibly hang on to his title any longer?”, and that’s what I’m going for.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf Beast View Post
    Sweeping comment right off the bat after reading, but this felt like a much more energetic Raw already. The kind of show that if you skipped, you’d regret upon reading the rundown online.


    Thought the show was perfectly paced, kicking off with the previously announced Cage match. If the first match of a show is a heated cage match, you can be sure the show is surely packed. The big chokeslam off the cage to finish should keep RVD off TV for a few weeks at least, giving you a chance to finish up the Shane stuff before getting back to the juicier potential of Kane/RVD.


    Shane making a big splash - literally - with his run in is typical of stunt man Shane, and coupled with the big spot during the match, it felt like you really put together a memorable Raw moment all in all.


    Moving from one big angle to another just helped to keep the pace and energy of the show ramped up imo. Have to say, the stretcher being tipped over came across as a bit classless from Flair and almost even juvenile, like a carefree DX prank. Just doesn’t fit into the Evolution vibe imo. Onto the actual promo, and I’m definitely the kind of person that appreciates potential logic holes being acknowledged, so I absolutely loved Austin going to the trouble of explaining what would happen at Unforgiven in the event of Michaels beating Triple H tonight. Often, that loose end is left untied, and it just leaves viewers questioning things. With this, it also feels like HBK winning is possible now, as the Authority Figure has gone to the trouble of announcing a contingency plan.


    What you also did with the contingency plan, was set up an overarching angle for the rest of the night with Evolution, and Randy Ortons dilemma. Orton already defying Triple H’s orders and looking out for himself caught me off guard, but the frostiness here was well done. Imo, it’s far too early to be teasing an Evolution break up, but it’s never too early to be planting seeds for that eventuality. Flair telling Randy he’s not ready for that step up is both true, and something I envision being repeated a lot, until that inevitable Hunter vs Orton match, when the question will hang over Orton whether he is ready at that point. The power play from Orton was interesting too, wanting his leader to ask him for his help. Didn’t care for the RKO spot with Goldust here in the locker room. Felt out of place, and almost comedic. I know Goldust isn’t a protected character at all, and he probably was the best guy for this role given his own family history in the business, but the RKO just came across as awkward to me. I’d have preferred a different kind of attack in this scenario, like ramming Goldust into the lockers or something to lay him out.


    You did a fine job of continuing the tag team angle, especially introducing the tables into the feud, and making La Resistance look like a credible threat as a trio. Nothing you’ve done with this feud is reinventing the wheel, but I like the straightforward, traditional booking of the feud. It’s a very solid midcard feud that’s bubbling nicely for Unforgiven now that it was made official later in the show. Definitely got a kick out of Conway calling for “la table” too.


    The interactions between Jericho and Christian are quickly becoming a highlight for me in this thread. You’ve got the douche Christian character nailed down already, and I love it. Being a listener of the E&C pod, I enjoy a Tommy Dreamer jab always, and the ‘Games are boring’ jibe was funny too. Jericho was ready for a face turn at this point imo, so I’m pleased to see this appears to be the route he’s headed in right now, with Christians efforts failing to convince Jericho here.


    And given his performance in the Battle Royal, there’s definitely steps being taken to position Jericho back in the face role. Overcoming the odds is a fine example of that. Interested by the strong showing Mark Henry got in the Battle Royal, looking like a proper threat in there. Nice to throw in the Hurricane chokeslam comedy spot too. Good job of keeping the Test issues with Steiner and Val fresh in the minds with this match too.


    Was very much wavering on what I thought of the Michaels/Goldberg meeting until HBK turned off the act. From there, you wrote a believable and intense piece of back and forth dialogue. The closing of the segment actually made me appreciate the early bit more in the end, and your portrayal of the nice guy Shawn act was really good. You did a great job establishing that both men have their own agendas here, setting up what could happen later.


    Surprised that Gail beat Trish, as it felt like Trish was being geared up to challenge for the title. Gail being Molly’s sidekick, but outshining her and making the champion jealous down the line could be a really fun angle if that’s where you end up with this.


    I meant to say this last time, but LMAO at the writing of Tests accent. I love it. I hope Steiner beats Test at Unforgiven, just to end this never ending feud. Given it’s the same stipulation as real life, I’m confident you’ll take the right direction unlike real life.


    Again, much like with RVD, I found the Goldust stretcher spot a little too juvenile for this version of Triple H. The fact there didn’t appear to be any comeback on Orton from the rest of the locker room, and them just letting him stay after his attack on Goldust also struck me as odd. Showing the respect the champion is afforded by clearing the locker room with one word was kinda bad ass. Orton lording it over Triple H was a really interesting thing to read, and you’d be sure that that won’t be forgotten by The Game, having to beg his subordinate to have his back really.


    Main event was filled with a lot of drama, twists and turns. Very nicely done and enjoyable to read, along with it being unpredictable too, thanks to the way the match was put together and built through the night. Orton ducking Chin Music only for Hunter to eat it is a definite spot that’ll be brought up again in the future as to whether Orton knew what he was doing or not. Goldberg doing the right thing was expected, but still meant Triple H ended up sneaking away with the win.


    I very much enjoyed the show closing angle, which got the absolute best out of Goldberg. Him ripping the cage door off his hinges (props for explaining how Flair got the cage lowered, as opposed to MAGIC) to save Shawn just goes hand in hand with the aura of the unstoppable Goldberg. Wisely, you got Triple H out of there, keeping the eventual showdown between the pair apart, doing a nice job of building anticipation for the beating Goldberg will be laying down at Unforgiven.


    This was good. Surprisingly very good. I dug the whole Evolution angle through the night, though I hope you aren’t already thinking of breaking them up, but are instead just establishing motivations. Much more fun to read already.
    I’m glad it felt like an unskippable show, as that’s the vibe I’m really hoping to hit. Just because you have a built-in audience doesn’t mean you can’t try to make your show unmissable, you know? The potential is there, you’ve just got to work to tap in to it.

    The stretcher bit I get what you mean, but it wasn’t meant as a prank. What I hated about Evolution was at times their gimmick seemed to be “better and cooler badasses than everyone else.” I want to tap in to them thinking that and kind of making them bullies. They have no regard for anyone but themselves. Kind of like a bully randomly shoving a kid in to the lockers as they walk through a school corridor. No rhyme of reason. Just asserting dominance.

    It’s no spoiler to say I’m not planning on splitting Evolution up. As you say, it’s establishing characterisation. Orton just became a cocky lackey when he joined Evolution, and I want to tap in to the cocky bit a little more. He’s been added to a faction with Ric Flair and Triple H with the implicit idea being he’s the next one in their shoes. How would that not go to your head?!

    But similarly, the point of him being in Evolution, character evolution-wise, is that they can mentor him. They didn’t do much with that in real life, it was more he just joined and learned by being there. What I wanted to tap in to was him being young, naïve and arrogant, and Flair mentoring him to see sense. That’s an interesting dynamic to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by BXSTXRD View Post
    Raw Review

    '03 was such a great time, with so much good stuff going on but it also had some faults that could definitely use correcting. Right off the hop, you capture the feel of the time period.

    Steel Cage! Hell of a way to start the show. This is the Kane I know and love, and if I was doing a WWE BTB in any time period, it's exactly what I would do with him too. What a way to end the match too.

    Please for the love of god, when Kane and Shane do face off, dont make Shane such a formidable opponent. It made Kane look weak in that feud. He needs to be a destructive monster.

    Typical Triple H/Evolution promo. Stone Cold making it a title match to HHH's disapproval was great.

    Spike showing some bravery. Could see that backfiring.

    Spike gets the surprise win, but I gotta wonder why the Dudleyz didn't come out as Spike got attacked. I feel like they would have been at least watching from the back and seen the attack start.

    Haha! Christian saying Dreamer is overweight and boring.

    A good, awkward back and forth between Jericho and Christian. This is a fun build for their feud.

    Oooh! Evolution tension. That was well played!

    Jindrak!!

    Felt inevitable that Jericho would win the chance to face Christian. Well earned win, and it's gonna be some fun interactions with Christian coming up.

    Unforgiven match tailor made for the Dudleyz. Gives me feelings that they may not get the win.

    That Goldust Flair interaction was comedy gold!

    Smart move here, Trish stays looking strong even with a loss.

    Haha! Brawl in Bischoff's office. The PPV match is basically what happened in real life, so curious what you will make your own about it.

    Haha! Triple H struggling to be polite. Another good promo.

    What was to be expected from this main event. Lots of interference, and the Unforgiven matches dont change. Very entertainingly written.

    Overall, a very good show here. A few minor complaints but lots to like. Your recap matches can be a little quick, but the cage match, battle royal and the main event were very flushed out. Your promo work was pretty solid throughout and you had a few very funny moments. You have captured the time period very well. Keep it up, excited for the next show!
    I agree on Shane and Kane. McMahon should totally be out of his depth in this feud for me. Brave, but mismatched. I figured that a sneak attack after Kane’s been in a cage match is the only circumstance Shane might be able to get one over on Kane. The dude is way in over his head, and I want Kane to be the monster he should have always been, and not selling Shane’s baby jabs on the reg.

    To your point about the Dudleys not saving Spike – in the previous segment they’d been laid out by La Res, specifically so La Res could get away with taking out Spike 3 on 1. By the time we reached the later segment, they’d somewhat recovered, but were hugely pissed about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by sebsy View Post
    Just found time to read Raw.

    Again, a brilliant show. It really does evoke the fondest memories of the period. You have each character down to a T and it helps so much for each character to have their own recognisable little nuances. The HBK/Goldberg backstage segment was a particular favourite of mine this show around, I could just picture HBK with the right level of goofiness as he kept talking to a reactionless Goldberg.

    The flow of the show itself, as usual, is great.

    The match write ups are just right, too. I especially enjoyed the main event.

    You manage to say so much without over-writing, something I'm not sure I could do myself.

    I do hate this BTB though, because it just makes me look even harder at what WWE can be at its best, and what it actually is now. I miss the days where we didn't have recaps all the time of things that happened literally 3 minutes before, and when a show flowed from start to finish and storylines just made sense.
    I get what you mean, in that I became a casual fan of WWE simply because they were so frustrating. My entire plan for booking this was to not do anything outside the realms of possibility, but show how a few minor tweaks could make for such a more entertaining product.

    Case in point was the whole HHH vs. Michaels match. I knew I wanted the match after last week, and if it was WWE today, they’d just have the match, one person would win, then they’d have a rematch and the other would win, then one would suddenly get a title match for no reason. For me, I knew I wanted the match, so I asked “why”? I figured HHH getting pissed off and not being afraid of Michaels. But then what? Well, Austin would probably make it a title match to screw with Evolution. But matches are already made for Unforgiven, what happens to those? How about Austin threatens to flip them around. But what does that mean for Orton, who normally helps HHH? Would he still do that, given he’s young and arrogant? And how will Goldberg respond?

    None of this is complex stuff, it’s basic storytelling. “Why would this happen?” “If this happens, what’s the impact on other things?” The fact that WWE never seems to do that is infuriating to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigmc123 View Post
    Hell…HELL of a opening match/segment. I am actually just starting the storyline with Shane and Kane and this is already better. I personally loved the Kane character during the time period. It was compelling TV and then they went supernatural with it and kinda killed it. Anyways, I hope that RVD is gone for a bit to sell the injury and comes back with a good push. The crossbody reminds me of when Mysterio debuted and I can def see Shane doing that bump IRL.

    Holy crap…HHH put his foot in his mouth by challenging Michaels and then Austin makes it a World Title match. This is going be a hell of a main event.

    O no, trouble is afoot for Spike Dudley…nice Spike gets the victory but the heat gets back onto La Resistance with the table spot and I love them ripping off the Dudley Boys…good segment

    I enjoyed Christian trying to weasel his way out of the potential match with Jericho. I like the slow burn on this feud. I will say that one of my favorite stories ever told in WWE was the Christian/Jericho/Trish Triangle and I hope u put a spin on that b/c again I would pay 1 dollar CANADIAN to read that.

    Good teaser segment here with Evolution. You really have writing TV down well…Very nice Teasers to keep the crowd hooked and willing to stay around to the main event. I love it…plus even though u started the show with a match, we still got a 15 min HHH promo so your 2/2.

    Very good battle royal…I love writing Battle Royals b/c they can further storylines very easily. I loved that you had Jericho have to face the 2 on 1 odds bc it helps his babyface turn. Very good job.

    Looking forward to some Dudleys revenge and I like that you turned the tables (no pun intended) and making it a tables match b/c they used tables. I love ur use of Austin.

    Again just splendid build up to the Main Event with the segment with Orton and Flair…I say there needs to be a mandatory of 3 segments with Evolution each week.

    You are building the hell out of this Main Event…I wanna see a clean finish so bad but you know…realism

    Good way of putting a bow on the Test/Steiner feud, but I would love to see Steiner as Test’s personal assistant.

    His sizeable nose…haha….I like that you have Evolution back on the same page….put I’m going file this episode away for later on in this thread if Orton/HHH start a program.

    Hell of a Main Event…you had me at the SCM to Orton…good call on have a pin-fall victory for HHH rather than a DQ for having Flair break the count…This was def an attitude Main Event IMO but not in a bad way as many moving elements happened at the end of the match after we would of saw a great match between two of the best.
    Glad you liked the running thread. I wish that’d happen more IRL. You’ve got 2 or 3 hours a week to tell a story. So tell a story! Otherwise, what’s the point of me watching?!

    I agree on Battle Royals, I find them immensely fun to write. I’m hoping I get as far as the Rumble in this because I imagine I’ll be in my element mapping out all the little rivalries and stuff that’ll come out of it.

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    Re: WWE: Where It All Begins... Again

    Alright. All caught up. Figured I'd jump in with the newest edition of Raw and then hopefully review each show as they are released.

    First off, you've got everyone's characters nailed, which is great.

    September 8th review.


    God I miss Across The Nation.

    Awesome way to start the show, with what could basically be the main event of any Raw. Great showing for Kane.

    "Here comes the jobbers" Laughed hard.

    The whole Evolution / Michaels / Austin segment was great. Like I said, you've got everyone nailed, and I could hear Austin when reading what you wrote for him.

    Typical La Resistance heel tactics. Loved the 3D spot.

    Christian trying to manipulate Jericho. Good stuff.

    UNFORGIVEN!!

    Ooooooooh Evolution drama already!!

    Jindrak!! Always been a big Jindrak fan..so uhhh..push that guy.

    Jericho with the win!! Gotta wonder with how it played out, if Henry will be coming for him.

    Molly! Gail! Trish! Gail Kim got the win!! God damn I love the '03 roster.

    Interested to see where you go with the Test Steiner storyline.

    Orton is back on team evolution! Wonder if it's for real though...

    Good win for Triple H. Everyone gets involved but we still end the night with the same Unforgiven main event which is what we needed.

    Loved Goldberg ripping the door off the hinges.

    Another good show man, as you continue on the road to Unforgiven. Really enjoying this so far, the only real complaint I have is I know you wanted to stick to realism, but coming out of Summerslam you coulda taken things in a few different directions and I'm pretty sure, with the exception of the IC Championship three way now being a singles, you kept it the same, match for match.

    That's my only complaint, so I'm looking forward to post Unforgiven Raw, and the build to No Mercy, to see what happens when you start to veer off in your own direction! Keep up the good work!!




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    Re: WWE: Where It All Begins... Again




    September 11th, 2003
    Birmingham, Alabama




    We fade in to a brief but heartfelt message of remembrance for the lives lost on September 11, 2001.




    We then gradually transition backstage to see STEPHANIE MCMAHON sat behind a desk in her office. Despite the chaos surrounding her life recently, she looks calm and collected, sat upright in a classy business suit. Directly behind her hangs a framed photograph of her grandfather, Vincent J. McMahon.

    "Welcome, everyone, to WWE Smackdown!" Steph says. "I have to say, it’s great to be back here on my show after last week’s suspension. A suspension I still don’t fully understand, by the way. But who does understand why Vince McMahon does what he does? But I digress. Last week, two men I greatly admire, Kurt Angle and The Undertaker, had a fantastic WWE Title match that was ruined by Brock Lesnar and the Big Show. It seems to me that my father has decided he will get those two monsters to do his bidding for him in his battle against me."

    "But that made me wonder where their loyalties lie. Brock Lesnar and the Big Show hate each other. They always have. No doubt money talks, but what about championships? That’s why, next week here on Smackdown, we will see my father’s chosen monsters, Brock Lesnar and the Big Show, face each other one-on-one, with the winner becoming the Number One Contender to the WWE Title!"

    "Oh my God!" Cole yells from commentary. "Can you believe that? Brock and Big Show are going to face off next week!"

    "Not Brock and Big Show," Tazz says. "Last time they locked up on Smackdown the whole ring collapsed!"

    "Why next week?" Steph rhetorically continues. "Because I happen to know for a fact that there are two men here tonight that would like to get their hands on Brock Lesnar and Big Show before then. So tonight's main event will be... the Big Show... and Brock Lesnar... teaming up to face... Kurt Angle... and The Undertaker! So with that out of the way… enjoy the show!"

    "What a match that’s going to be!" Cole shouts, as we fade in to the opening video.







    ***SO… YOU THINK YOU’RE UNTOUCHABLE***


    JOHN CENA strolls through the curtain to a mixed reception. Once the most hated man on the roster, the fans are slowly starting to buy in to the Nest Newbury native.

    "What a huge announcement we had at the top of the show, Tazz," Cole says, as Cena walks to the ring. "A huge main event scheduled for here on Smackdown."

    "No doubt, no doubt!" Tazz says. "But what I wanna know is what the Doctah of Thuganomics is doin’ out here?"

    "We were supposed be getting Eddie Guerrero defending his US Title against A-Train, so I don't know-"

    "Yo, yo, yo," Cena drawls, interrupting the announcers."Cut the music, y’all, I got somethin’ to say."


    “Last week I beat Eddie, and now everyone knows I deserve the gold,
    All tha champs are just children, I'm like MJ with a ten-year-old.”


    *OOOH!*

    “Yo, so come give me all tha’ titles, ya need to get it inta ya head,
    Rey’s just Mini Me in a mask, and Haas and Benjamin tag team in bed.”

    “And Kurt and his surgeries? I don’t need to remind ya,
    Maybe he can get a hair transplant while they fix his broken vagina.”


    *OOOOOHHHH!*

    “But it’s Eddie that I want, I wanna be champ of the United States,
    “I’m sex with a playboy bunny, Eddie’s just masturbate.”

    “And tonight, Eddie’s facing A-Train, ya know, the guy with the hairy back?
    “A-Train’s gonna beat ya in tah nothin’, Eddie, like your empty ball sack.”


    *OOOOOOOOHHHHHHH!*

    “So, Eddie, you’re the champion of the Americas, and I want ya to come 'n' fight me,
    Ya don’t want me as your US Champion? Ya can go ahead 'n' bite me.”


    Cena drops the microphone to a plethora of cheers, with the audience continuing to be won over by his brash attitude. Cena heads towards the announce table, saying he wants to commentate on the upcoming match…


    ***WHATEVER***


    The crowd cheer for the unexpected arrival of CHRIS BENOIT, who... good God. He grabs a microphone. Everyone take cover.

    "You think you're real funny, huh?" he asks, and Cena shrugs. "Well, I don't think you're funny. I think you're full of crap." A small cheer from the crowd. "You see, last week when you screwed Eddie out of the win, you screwed me too. And that means you and I have a problem. So how about you do your talking in the ring for once, and face me one on one, tonight?" The crowd cheer at the prospect of the match. "But know this, Cena. If you agree, I WILL... MAKE YOU TAP... OUT!"

    Cena lifts the microphone.


    “Ya wanna face me? Ya think me and you should go?
    It's like when ya asked the tooth fairy to visit, Chris, the answer's always 'no'.”



    Benoit looks to the mat and sighs, distracting him long enough for Cena to sucker punch him!

    No! Benoit saw it coming and takes him down in to the Crossface!
    Cena yells in agony as Benoit pulls back, forcing a gaggle of referees to rush down and pull him away.


    ***I’M ALL GROWN UP***


    The fans rise to their feet to welcome the returning General Manager, STEPHANIE MCMAHON.

    "Now, this is what I like to see here on WWE Smackdown!” she says. “Chris, you raised a great point there. I was forced to watch your match last week at home, and it seemed a little unfair to me that Cena would screw both you and Eddie out of the win. So that’s why… tonight, here on WWE Smackdown… it’s going to be John Cena… versus Chris Benoit!

    The crowd pop.

    “Oh, and that match will take place… RIGHT NOW!”


    John Cena vs. Chris Benoit

    The opening moments of this contest see Benoit absolutely school Cena on the mat. The Doctor of Thuganomics is way out of his depth, and continuously seems like he's about five moves behind. It's only when he rakes Benoit's eyes that he finds a way in to the match, and takes over with his powerhouse offence.

    Benoit is left to scrap for every shot he can get away, but it seems to count for little when Cena scoops him up for an FU... but Benoit wriggles free... German Suplex! And another! And another! He goes to the Top Rope... Diving Headbutt... misses! Cena rolled out of the way at the last minute! Again he scoops Cena in to the FU... but Benoit takes him down in the to the Crossface! Will Cena tap?

    He reaches for the ropes, but the rope's too far away! His hand hovers above the mat, tempted to end the pain by tapping... but instead he struggles to his feet WHILST STILL IN THE CROSSFACE, holds Benoit up... and slams him back down! Pure brute strength from Cena! They both stagger to their feet as Cena charges... straight back in to another Crossface! He didn't learn his lesson! But this time he's too close to the ropes, and Benoit is made to release the hold.

    Both men struggle to get to their feet, when A-TRAIN bounds down to the ring! The man Benoit has been feuding with for a few weeks, and the man Cena teamed with last week. Benoit turns around and A-Train charges with a Bicycle Kick... but Benoit ducks, and he nails Cena! Referee Brian Hebner is so shocked at the botched attempt at an interference he doesn’t call for the bell, so Benoit takes A-Train down with Triple Germans! A-Train is out of it! Hebner rolls Train out of the ring, but he doesn't see RHYNO slide in to the ring... GORE ON BENOIT! Benoit is down!

    Hebner turns around in time to see Cena pull an unconscious Benoit off the mat... FU!

    He makes the cover...

    ONE...

    TWO...

    THREE!

    Winner: John Cena in 8:21


    "I don't believe it!" Tazz yells. "Cena does it again! Last week he beat Eddie, dis week Benoit!"

    "Don't give me that, Tazz," Cole adds. "Last week he used the chain on Eddie, this week he has Rhyno and A-Train to thank! You can't call those victories!"

    "He got the pin, that makes 'em victories, Cole. You'd know that if you evah stepped in da ring."

    "And now what's this?"


    'This' is A-Train getting back in to the ring alongside Rhyno and they start putting the boots to the fallen Benoit.

    "This is a damn mugging," Cole adds on commentary.

    "Waita minute!" Tazz shouts.

    John Cena pulls Train and Rhyno away from Benoit! He’s stopping the beatdown!

    "Are we seeing a new side of John Cena here tonight?" Cole asks.

    Cena stares down Rhyno… AND STARTS BEATING THE HELL OUT OF BENOIT AS WELL!

    I don’t think we are, Cole!” Tazz says, ”I think the Doctah didn’t like Rhyno and A-Train doing the beatin’ without ‘im!”

    The beating continues until the fans turn to the aisle to see who might help… just in time for EDDIE GUERRERO to run down from the back with a steel chair, forcing Cena, Train and Rhyno to scarper. Eddie grabs a mic.

    "Orale!" he yells. "You wanna fight, homes? A-Train, you got a title match against me tonight, esse, I say we go right now!"


    WWE United States Championship Match
    A-Train w/John Cena & Rhyno vs. Eddie Guerrero (c) w/Chris Benoit


    This relentless start to Smackdown continues as A-Train gets to the ring and takes his US Title match. Benoit, despite badly beaten down, decides to stay at ringside and somewhat even the odds for Eddie, even though we know from last week there's no love lost between them. Eddie fires off early on A-Train, but is giving up such a size advantage that A-Train powers his way back in to contention

    But what Eddie lacks in size he makes up for in knowing how to play the game. A diversionary tactic allows him to get back in to it, so Rhyno charges the ring again to take him out... but Benoit cuts him off! Benoit is laying in to Rhyno! They brawl backstage, leaving Eddie alone with A-Train in the ring and Cena on the outside.

    Eddie's still in the ascendency, so Cena looks to get involved. He grabs his steel chain and slides it in to the ring, then leaps on the apron to distract referee Brian Hebner. A-Train looks to grab the weapon... but Eddie dives in front of him, takes the chain and clocks Train in the face with it! A-Train goes down! Eddie throws the evidence away, knocks Cena off the apron, climbs to the top and hits the Frog Splash! 1, 2, 3!

    Winner and STILL WWE United States Champion: Eddie Guerrero in 5:16


    "What a win for the US Champion!" Cole yells from commenary, as Eddie scurries to the outside and away from a fuming Cena and A-Train.

    "He cheated!" Tazz says.

    "That's what he does, partner... lie, cheat and steal!"


    ***


    We cut backstage, to where VINCE MCMAHON is stood in a lavish office. Stood either side of him is BROCK LESNAR and THE BIG SHOW, who angrily stare each down.

    "Now, gentlemen," Vince says, "I appreciate that what my daughter has done may encourage you to put your personal rivalry ahead of the goal I've set for you both. But you're not going to let that happen. You have a tag match tonight, and I need you both on the same page to send a message to The Undertaker and Kurt Angle. Last week was just the start, right?"

    The monsters merely snarl at each other.

    "Brock, Show, you both want a shot at the WWE Title. You can get that far quicker by helping me then fighting each other. You know that. So let's focus."

    Still they stare a hole through each other.

    "DAMN IT, I'M TALKING TO YOU!" Vince shouts. "Do I need to remind you who I am?"

    "I know who you are, Vince," Big Show finally says. "And so does Brock. And he knows what I can do to him."

    Brock laughs. "Really? That must mean you remember what I can do to you too. Or did you forget that I Superplexed you through the ring?"

    Show gets in Brock's face, forcing Vince to insert himself between them. "Now this is exactly the kind of behaviour I was talking about," he growls. "I do not have the time or the patience to watch you two rip each other apart again. My only concern is Kurt Angle and The Undertaker. And you better make that your only concern too. And fast. Otherwise there will be serious repercussions for you both."

    "The only repercussions," Show says, "will be me choking the life out of Brock Lesnar. Let me remind you Brock... I'm working with Vince because it's the right thing to do... but it sure as hell doesn't mean I like you. I don't like you. I hate you. You think you're a monster? You haven't seen anything yet. And next week, when I beat you in the middle of the ring, I will get the shot at the WWE Title I have been waiting far too long for."

    "I ain't going nowhere," Brock says. "You want me, let's go. I've kicked your ass before, I'll do it again."

    "STOP IT!" Vince barks. "I'VE SEEN ENOUGH, YOU TWO NEED TO-"

    "I don't have to do anything," Show interrupts. "I'm a seven-foot giant. I weight more than you two combined. Tonight, I will put my attentions on Kurt and 'Taker, and prove that I'm better than both of them. But next week, Brock, you're all mine."

    Big Show storms out of the locker room. Vince turns to Brock, but he too storms out, leaving McMahon alone to ponder the sustainability of this monstrous partnership he's brought together. After a few moments, he angrily bounds out of the room as well.


    ***


    Elsewhere, the Cruiserweight Champion REY MYSTERIO is in the locker room when BILLY KIDMAN walks over. They share a complicated handshake that was clearly developed over years of friendship.

    "What's going on, man?" Rey asks.

    "Not much," Kidman says. "Got World's Greatest Tag Team tonight and looking for a partner."

    "Yeah, good luck in that one. They're a tough team, man. But I'm sure you'll kill it."

    "Yeah, they're always hard. You'd know, man. Remember couple of months back at Vengeance? Me and you nearly won the belts from them. We said at the time, give us another shot, we'd get them next time."

    Rey nods.

    "So what do you say?" Billy asks. "How's now for the next time?"

    Rey adjusts his mask and looks to the side as he thinks. "I gotta think about the Cruiserweight Title, man. You saw what Tajiri did last week. Sprayed me right in the eyes with that mist. He needs to get his."

    "I know, man, I know. No doubt you'll get your hands on him soon. But I need a partner tonight, and I can't imagine teaming with anyone else.You're the best partner I had. You and me, I know we can beat them. Anyone else, I'm not so sure."

    Rey shrugs. "Whatever, man. You need my help, you know I got your back. I'll be your partner. But after tonight, I'm still coming for that punk Tajiri."

    They bump fists.

    "That's what I'm talking about," Kidman says. "Let's show those clowns who the best team on Smackdown are. And then Tajiri will get what's coming to him."


    ***


    With a COUPLE OF JOBBERS we will no doubt never hear from again in the ring, the BASHAM BROTHERS theme hits.

    "Well, here come the Basham Brothers," Cole says. "Led as always by their valet, Shaniqua-"

    "She ain't no valet, Cole," Tazz adds. "She's one of 'em, what d'ya call 'em? Domanitratix?"

    Cole laughs. "Dominatrix."

    "You didn't even have ta think about that, did ya? How come ya know so much about 'em?"

    "I don't know if she is a dominatrix, Tazz. I don't see that whip she's been carrying around for the last couple of months."

    "And they ain't wearing dem weird leather pants no more. You think dey've moved on to kinkier stuff?"

    "Or maybe this is just a change in attitude. These brothers have had a great run of results since they debuted, maybe they're taking themselves more seriously?"


    Basham Brothers w/Shaniqua vs. Nick Dinsmore & Johnny Jeter

    Just as Cole predicted, the Bashams seem to have developed a change in attitude. Quietly and efficiently, they isolate Jeter and gradually work him down, resembling a Minnesota Wrecking Crew NWA squash in the mid-eighties. They hit Jeter with a Legsweep/Lariat combination, knock Dinsmore off the apron without him ever tagging in, and pin Jeter in the middle of the ring.

    Winners: Basham Brothers in 2:02


    "An efficient performance from the Bashams there, Tazz."

    "No doubt, Cole! Ya can tell they're brothers from da way they're so on the same page."

    "If the Bashams keep this up, surely it's a matter of time before they get a shot at the Tag Champions?"


    ***


    Backstage, STEPHANIE MCMAHON is on the phone when VINCE MCMAHON bursts in. He snatches the phone from her hand and throws it across the room.

    "You know that was a company phone, right?" Steph says.

    "You think I care?" Her father growls. "I could buy a thousand of them and not notice."

    "It's great as always catching up, Dad, but I have a lot to do, so-"

    "Oh, no. I won't get out of your way that easily. I see what you're doing, and I hope you're happy with yourself."

    "I have no idea what you're talking about-"

    "Don't play stupid with me. I know that's your natural state, but at least try to show a little of the class that comes with being a McMahon."

    "You want to talk to me about class? How about-"

    "Yes, I do,"
    Vince says, interrupting her yet again. "That match you signed off for last week. I know you’re trying to punish me for finding two men far superior than Kurt Angle and The Undertaker, but you are endangering the safety of WWE employees. Putting them together after what happened last time they fought is negligence. We could get sued. It's things like this that make me think you are not suitable for this position."

    "This really isn't my problem, Dad. They're your hired goons, they're your problem. It’s your job to control them."

    "Oh, no,"
    he demonically growls. "This is your problem. It's your problem... because in the Brock Lesnar versus Big Show match next week... you're going to be... the guest... referee."


    ***


    ***SEARCH FOR: MATT HARDY***
    ***ENTER KEYWORD: VERSION 1.0***
    ***CONNECTING...***
    ***OHHH YEEEAAAAHHH!***



    Matt Fact: Matt has never turned down a challenge


    MATT HARDY (VERSION 1.0) makes his way down the ring, shadowed as always by his MFer, SHANNON MOORE. He takes a microphone and stands in the middle of the ring.

    "Mattitude Rule 12a: Never deal with cheats," he says.

    "I'm sure that was a different number last week," Cole says from commentary.

    "Last week," Matt continues, "the APA cheated. They cheated in a friendly card game, and they cheated in the ring. But I taught them a lesson, and therefore... I... will no longer be dealing with the APA!"

    Shannon applauds.

    "What the hell is her talking about?" Cole asks. "He lost last week to the APA!"

    "No, I'll go you on further,"
    Hardy says. "I will not even think about the APA anymore. They are ruining all the positive energy my Mattitude gives me. And as Mattitude Rule 41 says: Always keep a positive attitude."

    "That's my favourite Rule of Mattitude, Cole,"
    Tazz says.

    "So I'm moving on! Or rather, I'm looking back. You see, last week was a distraction. My real rivalry for the last few weeks has been with my mortal enemy... the virus that is destroying WWE from the inside… Zach Gowen. For weeks I've been waiting for my match with Zach, and for weeks he has no-showed."

    "He's not no-showed!"
    Cole scoffs. "He had his leg broken by Brock Lesnar!"

    "Zach Gowen... is a COWARD!"
    Matt shouts. "But luckily for Zach, there is a cure for cowardness. Ask Shannon, he'd know." Shannon nods along, oblivious to the obvious insult. "And that cure is... Mattitude! Rule Number 237 of Mattitu-"


    ***OUT OF MY WAY!***


    The fans give the One-Legged Wonder a warm reception as ZACH GOWEN hops to the ring on crutches, although the cast has now gone. He takes a microphone and stands up to Matt Hardy. Shannon Moore stands alongside Matt and tries to look intimidating, but fails horribly.

    "I'm getting sick of you calling me out when you know I'm injured," he says. "Brock Lesnar broke my leg. My only leg, I might add. But I’m nearly healed up. That’s right, I’m just weeks away from coming back to the ring, and when I do... I'm kicking your ass!"

    Matt laughs. "Oh really? Is that so? Is that really-"

    TWIST OF FATE ON GOWEN!

    The fans shower Matt with boos.

    "What the hell is Matt Hardy's problem?" Cole says. "Zach Gowen is recovering from a broken leg, and- now what's this?"

    With Gowen out cold, Matt grabs Shannon Moore by the collar and throws him to the mat, hooks Gowen's broken leg and makes a cover, yelling at Shannon to count, so he starts... 1... 2... 3!

    "He did it, Cole!" Tazz proclaims. "Matt Hardy had to wait for his match with Gowen, but he's finally picked up da win!"

    "Give me a break, Tazz. That wasn't a match, Shannon Moore's not a referee, and that was a cheapshot on Gowen, clear as day!"

    "Don't listen to 'im Matt, that was a hell of a win!"


    Matt hops to his feet and Shannon raises his arm in victory, so Hardy grabs the microphone again.

    "Your winner... MATT HARDY... VERSION-"

    Matt is cut off by the APA sprinting down to the ring, so he and Shannon roll away and back down the ramp. Simmons checks on the injured kid in the ring as Bradshaw yells threats over the top rope.


    ***


    We transition to a close-up of Kane's whited-out eye...

    "Hideous..."

    … we see him set JR on fire...

    "Gruesome..."

    … we see him surrounded by police officers, leading him out of an armoured police van...

    "Sadistic..."

    … we see him setting the casket on fire at the 1998 Royal Rumble...

    "Grotesque..."

    … we see him unmask...

    "Violent..."

    … we see him beating Shane McMahon to a bloody pulp...

    "Cruel..."

    … we see his debut, when he ripped the doors on Hell in a Cell and Tombstoned his own brother...

    "Perverted..."

    … we see him Tombstone Linda McMahon on the steel stage...

    "Vicious..."

    We see him laughing manically at carnage surrounding him.

    "Unforgiven."



    Raw Presents WWE Unforgiven, LIVE on pay-per-view, Sunday, September 21st.


    ***


    Non-Title Match
    World's Greatest Tag Team vs. Rey Mysterio & Billy Kidman


    This is a huge rematch from Vengeance. Then, Rey & Kidman took the Champions to the limit in a modern-day classic. Although Rey is the Cruiserweight Champion, he and Kidman would make great Tag Team Champions, and show that by dominating the early exchanges. The World's Greatest Tag Team clearly underestimated Rey yet again, allowing him to run circles around them for the first few minutes.

    But the champions learned from Kurt Angle, and therefore, know how to take control of a match. Rey tries one high-risk manoeuvre too many and the champs take over, trying to isolate the masked wonder. Unfortunately for them, he quickly finds his way to the tag and Billy Kidman then takes over, but again the champs find their way back in to the contest, and this time truly isolate Kidman from his partner.

    We know Kidman is resilient from his win last week, but Haas and Benjamin make quick tags in and out, leaving Kidman stuck in their half of the ring. With Kidman getting worn further and further down, the champs look for their Broken Arrow double-team, their rope-assisted guillotine. With Kidman's throat placed across the rope and his legs around Haas' shoulders, Benjamin hits the ropes... but Kidman Headscissors Haas out of the ring! Shelton pauses, panics, then leaps at Kidman, but he rolls out of the way... tag to Rey!

    Haas rolls back in the ring in time to be met by the fast-moving Mysterio, and both the champions struggle to keep up. Shelton looks for a cheap shot on Rey, but Kidman gets in the way and places him on the top rope. He stands by as Rey runs at him... and vaults him up to the top rope... straight in to a top-rope Hurricanrana! And the crowd EXPLODE! Rey makes the cover...

    ONE...

    TWO...

    NO! Haas jumps in! Kidman brawls with Haas, as the legal man Shelton rolls to the outside and grabs one of their title belts. He comes back in the ring and charges at Kidman, looking for the disqualification, but Rey sees him coming and Drop Toe Holds him on to the middle rope! Kidman Clotheslines Haas out of the ring... 619 on Shelton! Benjamin flops to the mat as Kidman goes to the top... SHOOTING STAR PRESS! Rey makes the cover...

    ONE...

    TWO...

    THREE!

    Winners: Rey Mysterio & Billy Kidman in 13:30


    "What a win for Mysterio and Kidman!" Cole yells. "They took everything the champions had to throw at them and they came out on top!"

    "Big props to Rey Rey and Kidman,"
    Tazz says. "That was a helluva contest, and they make a helluva team!"

    "No doubt, Tazz, and it seems to me like they've got the champions' numbers. Surely they're going to get a shot at the gold soon."


    Kidman and Mysterio hug in the middle of the ring and celebrate for the fans... when TAJIRI slides in to the ring and nails Kidman with a kick straight to the face! Kidman goes down as Rey turns around... mist to the eyes! Tajiri got Mysterio with the mist yet again!


    ***


    We transition in to a video of Eddie Guerrero, set to the tune of Taking Over Me by Evanescence. It shows his upbringing in El Paso, Texas, growing up in the family business of professional wrestling. We see the journey he took by going back to the land of his forefathers, then to Japan, ECW and WCW to finally make it to WWE. He's won titles, broken bones, and fought against every obstacle imaginable, including his own demons, all to entertain the fans. We see footage of him leaping through the air for Frog Splashes, the tricks he plays in the ring, the low-riders he's driven, the relationships he's forged with Benoit, Mysterio, Chavo and more, and see the adoration he has from the fans.

    The video ends with him in the middle of the ring, a huge "EDDIE" sign behind him, the fans chanting his name as the song fades out, leaving us with the hook...

    "I believe in you..."


    ***


    THE UNDERTAKER is in his locker room, taping up his hands, when a shadow is cast across his locker room. He looks up to see KURT ANGLE stood in the doorway, WWE Title belt slung over his shoulder.

    "I think you're in the wrong room, son," 'Taker says, looking back down at his now fully-strapped hands.

    Angle defiantly walks in to the room anyway. "No, I'm not. We need to talk."

    'Taker gets up from the bench and invades Kurt's personal space, towering over him. "No, we don't."

    "Last week was a hell of a match,"
    Kurt continues, unwavering in the face of 'Taker's intimidation tactics. "One of the toughest I've had. But Brock ruined it before we got to find out who the better man is. I guess we'll never know now."

    "I've got an idea,"
    'Taker snarls.

    "Whatever, man. I'm not here to get the upper hand on you. I'm here to say that last week was tough. But that's in the past. Tonight, we go up against the Big Show, and we go up against Brock Lesnar. I've faced them a lot. You've faced them a lot. They're dangerous. I don't know how much Vincne is paying them, and I sure as heck don't know how they could possibly be on the same page. But if they are, we need to be too. And if we're not on the same page, we're in big trouble. So I wanted to make sure – are we on the same page?"

    'Taker spits on the floor of the locker room. "I don't give a damn about your pages. Frankly, you can shove your pages where the sun don't shine. Tonight, all you need to worry about is stayin' the hell outta my way."

    'Taker grabs his gloves from the bench and walks out of the locker room, leaving Angle frustrated behind him.


    ***


    Tajiri vs. Funaki

    Tajiri gets a notably bigger heel reaction in this one, no doubt stemming from his attack of Kidman and Mysterio. He immediately shows a more vicious side to his personality in this one, rarely giving Funaki an opportunity to battle back. Funaki does briefly fire up, but it's all for nothing when Tajiri clocks him with a huge Buzzsaw Kick for the three.

    Winner: Tajiri in 4:09


    The match is over, but Tajiri isn't done. With Funaki down, Tajiri lines up another series of kicks to the chest. Over... and over... and over... and over... and over. The fans grow restless with the continual beating of Funaki, so Tajiri finally finishes... and sprays the green mist in to his face!

    The fans boo, but they quickly turn to cheers as BILLY KIDMAN and REY MYSTERIO run out to the ring to chase Tajiri off. He vacates the ring pretty quickly, but it's too late, and the damage has been done.


    ***


    Next we see this week's RAW REBOUND, and the choice for this one is clear. The show opened with a huge Cage Match between Kane and Rob Van Dam. The match ended with a devastating Chokeslam off the top of the cage from Kane. That inside was crazy enough, but it was followed up with an almighty Crossbody from Shane McMahon on to Kane off the top of the cage.


    ***


    Backstage we see THE BIG SHOW and BROCK LESNAR again staring a hole through each other. Stood by them is VINCE MCMAHON.

    "Damn it you two," he says, "your match is next. You can rip each other apart next week for all I care. But this week, I want The Undertaker, and I want Kurt Angle, permanently taken care of. Do I make myself clear?"

    "You got one thing right,"
    Big Show says. "Next week, I will rip Brock Lesnar to shreds."

    "Enough! I don't want to hear this any more. If you don't get on the same page, I’ll over-ride Steph’s decision. That’s right… neither of you getting those title shots you think you deserve."

    "Yeah, we will,"
    Brock says. "You wouldn't dare take them away from us. But don't worry. Angle and 'Taker are about to go through a whole world of pain."

    "I guess we can agree on that," Show adds.

    Finally, Vince breathes something of a sigh of relief. That is, until Stephanie McMahon walks over. "What in the hell do you want?" he growls at his only daughter.

    "I just wanted to offer two of my most valued guys luck tonight. Brock, Show, I look forward what to seeing what you can do tonight, and especially next week. But you'll be doing it alone, because, Dad, you are banned from ringside."

    "This is my company! You can't tell me where I can go!"


    Steph gets in his face. "I just did. And if you interfere tonight, neither Brock or Show will get another title shot for another year."

    Brock and Show surround the General Manager.

    "You sure about that?" Brock asks.

    "Yeah, I am," she says, showing zero fear.

    "Whatever you say, Boss," Show says. "We don't need Vince out there anyway. Your boys are going down."

    Lesnar and Show smirk, and walk towards the Gorilla Position together. Maybe they can work together.

    "See you next week, Steph," Brock adds. "Looking forward to it."

    Steph watches them go as Vince stares a hole straight through her.

    "Here it is, folks," Cole says from commentary. "The Big Show and Brock Lesnar versus Kurt Angle and The Undertaker... next!"


    ***


    Brock Lesnar & Big Show vs. Kurt Angle & The Undertaker

    With no outside interference allowed, Angle and 'Taker dominate the early goings, with Taker using his punching ability to beat Show around the outside as Kurt schools Brock inside of it. But there's a reason Vince chose these two behemoths to represent his interests, and that shows itself when Big Show overcomes 'Taker on the outside and takes out Kurt inside of it.

    From there, Angle is stuck in the ring, being dominated by the two surprisingly-well-oiled monsters. For all of the arguing earlier, Brock and Show entirely dominate their smaller opponent, even finding time to boast to each other about how in control they are. But they're in there with the WWE Champion, and their overconfidence is their undoing. Kurt makes the tag to the rested Big Evil, and Undertaker takes over with the force of a thousand freight trains. Flying Clothesline to Show! Snake Eyes and Big Boot to Brock!

    He signals for the Chokeslam on Brock... but Big Show jumps him! Show grabs him by the throat, ready for a Chokeslam... but 'Taker grabs him too by the throat! Who will wear the other down?

    Big Show will! 'Taker loses his grip, and Show nails him with a Chokeslam! But he doesn't see Angle sneak up behind him... German Suplex on the 500lbs giant! Incredible feat of strength from the champion! But here comes Brock... Overhead Belly to Belly Suplex! Angle's down, but he's not the legal man. Brock leans in to 'Taker... and gets caught in a Triangle Choke!

    But Brock's not the legal man either! Big Show's back up, and he grabs 'Taker by the throat... but Angle trips him from behind! Ankle Lock! But Brock's back up too... F5 to Angle! Here comes 'Taker... and he launches Brock out of the ring!

    He turns around and fires off on the limping giant in the ring with huge soupbones. Show tries to interrupt with a Chokeslam attempt, but this time 'Taker powers out! Off the ropes... Running DDT!

    Sensing the match getting away from them, Brock grabs the WWE Title from the outside and slides in the ring... he swings at 'Taker... but he ducks! Brock nails Big Show! The Undertaker poises... Chokeslam to Brock! And Lesnar rolls out of the ring!

    Show staggers to his feet as Angle rolls in the ring... ANGLE SLAM! But Big Show is straight back up... the giant is indestructasble!

    CHOKESLAM FROM THE UNDERTAKER! Incredible strength from Angle and Big Evil! The Undertaker makes the cover...

    ONE...

    TWO...

    THREE!

    Winners: Kurt Angle & The Undertaker in 10:22


    It may have taken both of them, plus an accidental belt shot from Brock, but Angle and 'Taker have overcome Vince's team of monsters. Charles Robinson raises their hands in victory as they stand over the unconscious Big Show. Both snatch their hands away from the referee and stare each other down... and The Undertaker offers Angle a nod of respect! Angle does the same... and they leave the ring together!

    With the match over, Vince is allowed to ringside. He stands at the top of the stage, mouth agape, as Angle and 'Taker walk past, each staring him down as they go. That leaves the Chairman to look at the ring as Brock Lesnar rolls back in to the ring while Big Show climbs to his feet. Show asks Brock why he hit him with the title belt and cost them the victory, but Brock doesn't want to give him an answer. He wants to know why Show allowed himself to get pinned. They square up to each other... and start trading punches!

    "No, no, no!" Vince whines. "You're ruining it! Stop it, damn it! You're ruining it all!"

    "Big Show and Brock Lesnar are going at it!" Cole yells from commentary. "McMahon’s master plan to bring these two monsters together has immediately backfired! What's going to happen next week when they face one on one?"

    "It's going to be a rocketbustah, that's what!"

    "You don't want to miss it! Next week... Big Show... Brock Lesnar... and Stephanie McMahon is the guest referee! Good night, everyone!"


    ***


    * END OF SHOW *


    ***


    Confirmed matches for next week

    Singles Match
    Big Show vs. Brock Lesnar

    WWE United States Title Match
    John Cena vs. Eddie Guerrero (c)

    Singles Match
    Sean O'Haire vs. Chris Benoit

    Number One Contenders Match for the WWE Cruiserweight Title
    Tajiri vs. Billy Kidman

    Singles Match
    Shannon Moore vs. Bradshaw

    Tag Match
    Basham Brothers vs. Nick Dinsmore & New Partner


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    Smackdown Review

    Quality opening. Stephanie laying down the law, giving Taker and Angle a chance for revenge whilst also planting seeds to cause friction between her Daddy's hired guns.

    Show opens up well with Cena on the rap again. Benoit/Cena finish kept both strong whilst the aftermath set up nicely for the Eddie save. Loving the Rhyno introduction to this feud.

    Eddie cheats his way to victory, but that's the Eddie we know and love. Would be pretty great if we had a multi-man title match at the PPV to keep all these PPVs moving along.

    Brock and Show don't have a brain cell between them, and Steph's plan has worked marvellously. The implosion is imminent.

    Good litle moment between Kidman and Mysterio to lead on the search for a partner for Kidman. Has to be Paul London? Surely?

    We want Eugene!! We want Eugene!! No? Okay! Squash victory for The Bashams. Exactly what they need to keep building themselves up.

    Nice twist from Vince. Just when everything seemed to be going right for Stephanie, he throws a big spanner in the works. Good booking.

    "My mortal enemy", "My only leg", "He did it Cole", comedy writing at his best. Seriously had a few chuckles at this. Hardy and Moore took care of Gowen but they've got their hands full now with the APA.

    Big win for The Filthy Animals... but Tajiri leaves a lasting presence again by taking out Kidman and misting Mysterio again. Maybe Kidman/Tajiri next week, which would be great. Also what to say about Kidman/Mysterio beating the Tag Champs... it would mean a title shot surely but Mysterio has got his hands full.

    Nice Eddie video.

    Not sure the Tajiri match was even necessary. He made a big enough statement earlier in the nigh but for sure it continues the CW storyline.

    Main event time!!! And the implosion arrives!!! Going to be one interesting main event next week, wonder if it will all end up backfiring for Stephanie.

    Another great episode Keefmoon and I'm excited to see what happens on both shows next week... keep the great work coming!!!

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    Another solid Smackdown.

    Not really much else to say other than that, as I'm not one for commenting on each segment.

    Really enjoying this so far, the shows really do flow so well, it's an easy read, has good humour and makes me wish WWE would ,ove back towards what the WWE was at this point, to a certain degree anyway.

    Keep it up

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    So I missed Raw again in terms of feedback although I did read and enjoy. The improvements on the Kane and Goldberg situation are already making the show so much better. Only thing I wasn’t completely behind as others have already mentioned is the tension between Triple H and Orton. I understand by your explanation what you’re trying to achieve, however the tension was WAY over the top this early on, it just felt a little forced. Anyway onto Smackdown…

    I’m glad you mentioned September 11, realism counts. Opening with Stephanie’s quick statement after she didn’t appear last week was fine. The announcement of tonight’s tag match kind of makes sense, and whilst I understand the concept of Steph pitting Brock/Show against each other, it makes no sense to offer them a title opportunity after last week. And surely ‘Taker will feel hard done by this as well? I don’t know, I get the concept but I feel like the logic in me is saying things shouldn’t work this way. Only other thing I can think of is Steph and ‘Taker were tight back during this time period so maybe it’s a set up. Either way, hoping you bring the Steph/Vince feud to a halt pronto.

    Much like last week, credit for the Cena rap, this was another pretty fun one. Cena clearly giving all his attention to Guerrero makes for a really fun feud; however Benoit wanting revenge for last week makes perfect sense. Awesome little segment with the cheap shot back firing and I look forward to the match.

    Cena/Benoit match went pretty much as expected with Benoit dominating a fair portion, before Cena ended up cheating to get the win. I was a little shocked by the interference from Rhyno but obviously happy because he’s my boy. A Train and Rhyno getting involved still provides Cena with a big win whilst Benoit doesn’t lose anything. The tease of Cena being face like by stopping the attack only to beat up Benoit himself is TREMENDOUS. Considering the fans are just begging to cheer him at this point, that’s perfect. Really good stuff here.

    And straight into the US Title match, segments continuing into each other feels a little like ECW, which again, you know I love. Perfect booking again here with a standard Eddie win as Cena’s interference backfires and Guerrero cheats to win. No complaints at all, and Eddie/Cena continues to build nicely.

    Based off of this earlier announcement, it makes sense to show a divide between Big Show and Brock. Vince getting frustrated is standard but what I liked here, is the way these two stayed as big bad asses, not letting themselves be lectured by the boss. Instead they kept bickering before going their separate ways. It’s going to be very interesting to see how this pans out. Good stuff.

    LMAO at the Mysterio/Kidman complicated handshake, found that to be pretty funny. Kidman convincing Rey to be his partner is fine, but I’m glad Mysterio hasn’t forgotten about Tajiri as well.

    The Basham Brothers were never that great in my opinion, but you probably need all the teams you can get in the tag division, so the idea of repackaging them to be a little more serious is fine. I marked out for the Dinsmore and Jeter appearances but the right call was obviously made here with The Basham’s going over.

    Well, I guess Vince is trying to flick the script on Stephanie by making her a referee. The back and forth between the two felt really natural which is always a bonus, although I’m not sure how I feel about Vince making Steph the referee. It kind of puts her in harm’s way but it also gives her the opportunity to influence the match. Seems risky.

    I can’t remember if I mentioned it in my feedback last week but I love Matt Hardy Version One as a character. I wrote a WWE 2004 thread back in the day and I had big plans for the character but never got very far, so now I’ll live vicariously through you. LOL at the audacity and straight lying to say he dealt with The APA last week. Hardy calling out and then beating up the one legged Gowan is standard Hardy throughout this time period. I really enjoyed this, I thought it was sensational.

    I’m intrigued as to how Unforgiven will pan out in terms of format and detail.

    Considering Mysterio’s beef with Tajiri, I didn’t necessarily expect Rey and Kidman to get the win here, but this obviously means they qualify for another title shot at some point. A very good match this would have been as well. Tajiri attacking both men after the match was a nice reminder that he still wants Mysterio, and I have a feeling Tajiri could cause huge problems between Mysterio and Kidman. Good stuff here.

    Some nice Guerrero hype just because…

    Angle/Taker segment was great as a concept however the execution didn’t exactly hit home from me. I don’t mind them not being all buddy buddy, all they need to do is have a mutual understanding. ‘Taker refusing to admit they are on the same page was okay, however the whole spitting on the floor thing just felt unnecessary and disrespectful towards Angle. I know Undertaker is the ABA at this point, but that part of the segment really ruined it for me.

    Tajiri looks dominant here against Funaki and after the match, before fleeing. Kidman and Rey looking for revenge is fine, solid stuff. I’m marking out for Tajiri looking beastly as well.

    The battle between Steph and Vince continues with the female McMahon now banning Vince from ringside. The back and forth between Show and Lesnar and then Steph was all written pretty well here. I enjoyed the threat from Lesnar to Steph for next week, and it finally looks like the two monsters are on the same page. Solid stuff.

    Main event time and I thought this match flowed pretty well. You teased Show/Lesnar being back on good terms yet they were still gloating to each other. The ending with Brock accidentially hitting Show is the perfecy way to book this match, and Angle and Taker get a huge win. The nod of respect from ‘Taker here makes me further believe the spit on the floor earlier was completely unnecessary. It seems like a big switch to go from spitting at somebody to nodding in respect all in one night. What we are really here for though was the aftermath with McMahon not being able to control his goons and Show and Lesnar throwing hands. Perfect way to end the show, hyping next week’s main event.

    A couple of tiny things I mentioned throughout but this show was another very good read. I still really do feel like I’m reading/watching shows from this time period which is terrific. A very good show and next week’s Smackdown’s card looks all kinds of stacked as well. Keep up the fantastic work, this thread is definitely one to watch.








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    The Stephanie promo accomplished a few bits and pieces nicely, as you established she’s back and in control right at the top of the show, but doing it outside of the ring, meaning we didn’t get a god awful in ring segment that would’ve had to have Vince interrupt. Got the business out of the way nice a quick here, and the Brock/Show announcement was a sneakily great chess move by Steph to create dissension between Vince’s goons.


    The one and only issue I had is that Undertaker didn’t have anything to say on the matter during the show, not bringing it up during his showdown with Angle, despite his own title shot was marred last week. I get that he wouldn’t be the type to complain to Stephanie about it, but I’d have liked him to express some dissatisfaction that he’s been left out in the cold.


    That might actually be the only issue I had with this show, because everything else had a purpose, flowed on from last week, and set up what’s to come in the coming weeks.


    The Cena promo was magnificent. I can’t imagine how time consuming it must be (the Gertner promo I wrote took a number of goes) to be doing this consistently. Comes off very well though, and you make it look a lot easier than I’m sure it is. For all the lewd rhymes, my actual favourite part of this was his retort to Benoit with the tooth fairy line.


    Cena vs Benoit feels like a big match to give away unadvertised, but it’s still pre mega star Cena, so I guess at this point, it still isn’t *that* big that it should be saved. Another big win notched up for Cena keeps him rolling, and the right result for sure imo. Cena powering out of the Crossface is a major face spot to be doing, and the tease of him stopping Train and Rhyno before actually leading the attack felt like some foreshadowing for a future face turn. He’s getting a lot of shine right now, and much like in real life, the fans may end up turning him for you at this rate.


    I always like seeing two matches back to back like we had here from the Eddie run in saving Benoit. Just makes the show flow seamlessly to me and adds an extra bit of energy to proceedings by keeping the action going in front of the fans. Didn’t give A-Train a hope of winning, so this served well as a solid title defence for the champion, fitting in some trademark lying, cheating and stealing to get the win. Nice touch too with the Eddie vignette later in the show. Makes him look like much more of a star.


    Enjoyed seeing Lesnar and Show at each other’s throats. It’s always irritating when the past is just forgotten because people are now teaming up - especially when the feud was heated like theirs.


    Looks like Vinces dream team may not last too long at this rate, but Vince appointing Steph as referee next week is intriguing. Not sure what his plan may be, except for just wanting her in harms way, but I look forward to see how that situation shakes out.


    Fully assumed Kidman would be introducing London as his partner, but turning to Rey makes total sense too. Rey will be spinning a few plates for the time being it seems, getting involved in a tag program whilst defending the Cruiserweight title. It might just be me reading into things too much, but something about Kidman sounded ‘off’ here, looking out for himself and his interests despite Rey telling him he had his hands full with Tajiri. Again, could just be me looking for something that isn’t there.


    The change in look for the Bashams works for me. Think they can be taken much more seriously with the Arn/Tully vibe, which is a good thing. The fact Dinsmore is coming back again next week with another partner is intriguing. Potentially going to have Dinsmore/Conway’s old team brought to Smackdown perhaps?
    EDIT; Ignore that last bit. Totally forgot Conway is already on Raw*


    If it wasn’t for Cena’s rap, this Hardy segment would’ve been the highlight of the show again. This was great fun to read, and you’ve got Hardy absolutely nailed down with the V1 gimmick. Calling Gowen his mortal enemy had me creasing. Gowen too can be a fun character to have around, based solely on the fact he has a unique selling point in having one leg, and some of the angles you could play around with, especially as a sympathetic character. Hardy is clearly going to be a weekly highlight in this thread.


    Tajiri is coming across nicely as the silent but deadly heel. Him taking out Rey and Kidman before his match build nicely off last weeks show, and the quick win over Funaki was just what was required here too. He’s looking like a real threat to Rey.


    It certainly feels like this title situation is bubbling up toward a fatal four way at No Mercy. There’s bound to be shenanigans next week, and with Taker winning here and not losing last week, he’s obviously got a legit claim to a rematch too. Didn’t expect a finish in this main event, but you protected Show enough with the Brock accident, and by taking two finishers to be put down for the three. Perfect teaser for next week here too at the end.


    Another highly entertaining and enjoyable read, so early on in this thread. I’m even enjoying how the McMahon stuff is playing out with the one-upsmanship going on.

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    Good little introduction to the show with Stephanie responding back to Vince and trying to get one move ahead in this human chess match between McMahon. I do wonder how Taker will react to this.

    Awesome rap from Cena. I laughed so hard at your comments on Benoit getting a microphone comment. Was waiting for this match to be made and it is a good start to the show. Good win for Cena and I liked how you had commentary put over that he has beaten Eddie and Chris….good job of using commentary to put over the story…something I need to work into my show.

    Nice little win for Guerrero…never really saw A Train have much of a chance in this match.

    Good little segment from Vince, Show and Brock…I like the tension that you created between the two monsters that you have been creating. I am enjoying this feud and beign that we are in September…I can see a Steph vs. Vince Survivor Series match coming out of this.

    Interesting seeing you go with Rey and Kidman as the tag team…I don’t see this lasting long bc of Mysterio with the CW title….I wonder if Kidman will just keep looking for another partner until he finds one that fits.

    Simple squash match for the Basham…looking for some more character development from them.

    Interesting making Steph the special guest referee…I can see a huge angle coming out of this.

    Mattitude Version 1.0 is still one of my favorite things going on this entire forum right now. I like that you added to it with the entrance and still had a Matt Fact. Matt calling out Gowen and being so over the top was just perfect…really good stuff right now.

    Interesting to have Mysterio/Kidman win here…I was sure they would lose and Kidman would move on to the next tag partner…I like that you had Tajiri hit Mysterio with the mist again. I wonder what is going to happen when Mysterio has to put the CW title first.

    I love the way that you build to a main event with different segments through out the show…you did it on RAW with Evolution and doing it on SD with the Vince/Steph feud leading to the tag team match….great job on that…

    I also love that you are making me care about tajiri…I always felt that the mist was underused by him….i’d love to see what you going do with him

    Great main event with the right guys going over and next week is a loaded show esp with the main event….cant wait for RAW

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    Good little introduction to the show with Stephanie responding back to Vince and trying to get one move ahead in this human chess match between McMahon. I do wonder how Taker will react to this.

    Awesome rap from Cena. I laughed so hard at your comments on Benoit getting a microphone comment. Was waiting for this match to be made and it is a good start to the show. Good win for Cena and I liked how you had commentary put over that he has beaten Eddie and Chris….good job of using commentary to put over the story…something I need to work into my show.

    Nice little win for Guerrero…never really saw A Train have much of a chance in this match.

    Good little segment from Vince, Show and Brock…I like the tension that you created between the two monsters that you have been creating. I am enjoying this feud and beign that we are in September…I can see a Steph vs. Vince Survivor Series match coming out of this.

    Interesting seeing you go with Rey and Kidman as the tag team…I don’t see this lasting long bc of Mysterio with the CW title….I wonder if Kidman will just keep looking for another partner until he finds one that fits.

    Simple squash match for the Basham…looking for some more character development from them.

    Interesting making Steph the special guest referee…I can see a huge angle coming out of this.

    Mattitude Version 1.0 is still one of my favorite things going on this entire forum right now. I like that you added to it with the entrance and still had a Matt Fact. Matt calling out Gowen and being so over the top was just perfect…really good stuff right now.

    Interesting to have Mysterio/Kidman win here…I was sure they would lose and Kidman would move on to the next tag partner…I like that you had Tajiri hit Mysterio with the mist again. I wonder what is going to happen when Mysterio has to put the CW title first.

    I love the way that you build to a main event with different segments through out the show…you did it on RAW with Evolution and doing it on SD with the Vince/Steph feud leading to the tag team match….great job on that…

    I also love that you are making me care about tajiri…I always felt that the mist was underused by him….i’d love to see what you going do with him

    Great main event with the right guys going over and next week is a loaded show esp with the main event….cant wait for RAW

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    Re: WWE: Where It All Begins... Again

    Not really got the time right now for a full review, but thought I'd give you some thoughts on SmackDown...

    I think two highlights of the show were your characterisation of Matt Hardy and John Cena. Certainly they're two heels who are highlights of the undercard right now. Mattitude V1 was always a great gimmick imo, probably some of Matt's best stuff and you've been doing it plenty of justice so far. Same could be said for Cena and the raps, which I thought was pretty well written. Cena is obviously ascending up the card that bit quicker, and he and Benoit is a hell of a match to give away unannounced. But a really big win for Cena nontheless, seems like he's being geared up for a shot at Guerrero and the US Title, which I'm assuming you'll save for pay per view. As for Hardy, that was pretty dastardly to attack Gowen like that, but mega heat for Hardy for doing so. But yeah, these two really stood out as young-ish heels on the rise and there characters were both pretty spot on.

    Seems to be you're gearing up for a fatal four way for the big belt, which given the names involved could be a great match when we finally get to it. I liked the nod to the history between Lesnar and Show, I always hate when guys who have a heated feud like a year or so earlier then team up and it's not even mentioned or alluded to. And then the fallout takes place, certainly seems like Vince's plan isn't going how he wants it to. Out of interest, when you get round to your next QandA post, what is this power struggle between Steph and Vince all about? Is it a real life story you've carried on with? As for next week, can't see anything other than mayhem involving all four men when Lesnar and Show collide. What Vince will do next seems the bigger question, this week doesn't seem to have worked out for him and Steph seems to have gotten the upperhand, so expecting McMahon to find a way to answer back.

    Tag team division seems to be getting a push, although one slight criticism would be that you had six matches on this card and three of them were tag matches. Obviously the main event is outwith the tag division, but Mysterio and Kidman coming together to challenge for the gold would be a great addition and a feud with them and Hass/Benjamin could lead to some pretty exciting matches. That and a more serious Basham Brothers certainly shows you're putting some real effort into it.

    Overall, I thought this was a really solid show. I'd checked out of wrestling during this time frame so some things I'm not too clued up on (Steph/Vince for example), but there's plenty of talent and the SmackDown undercard is stacked right now. Be really interesting to see how you handle the development of Cena and Hardy, they both seem like they could be major players in the very near future for you.


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    Re: WWE: Where It All Begins... Again

    Just gonna drop some quick thoughts on the entire project thus far, reviewing the current Unforgiven card for RAW and gonna give some thoughts on your latest SD.

    First off, this time period will go down for me as one of my favorites of all time. Being 11/12 years old at the time, I was at the peak of my WWE watching days. This was for the most part my fondest WWE memories.

    RAW has been excellent so far. I love the way you've booked Goldberg to not look like a complete idiot as he did at this time. Fresh off losing at Summerslam to a severely crippled HHH at the time, even 11 year old me could realize that they were tentative on giving this guy the belt. When he didn't win it at Summerslam, I knew even if a reign was coming it would be short-lived. You've already built more momentum for him over 2 shows than they did during his entire stint. Excited to see this match unfold at Unforgiven.

    Legend Killer Orton is also one of my favorite guys during this time period. Evolution as a whole has been booked great so far, and a nice program with HBK is just what Orton needs to reach the next rung in the main event scene.

    Also glad you've gotten rid of the nonsense that was Kane lighting JR on fire, tombstoning Linda and shocking Shane's nutsack. Maybe that all happened prior to the start of your project, but if it didn't, kudos for just building him as a no-bullshit monster looking to destroy Shane the way a monster should.

    The Christian/Jericho program was one of the only things IMO done right during this time period, but you have a grasp of each character down to a science so it is still a fun read regardless. Hoping Jericho gets the belt at Unforgiven.

    La Resistance/Dudleys program has been good so far. Not too much you can do with either team other than the whole USA/France thing. Hoping the Dudleys get the belts back.

    Stacy Kiebler and Torrie Wilson were probably one of the biggest reasons I was a huge WWE fan at the time...because of their...uhh...wrestling skills lol. I used to get pissed watching Test boss her around, so even though Steiner/Test doesn't sound the best on paper, I'm all in for this angle.

    Now time for the Smackdown side. Such great wrestling at the time. SD was way ahead of RAW in regards to storylines and matches in real life, but being the extraordinary booker that you are, you have no problem adding your own twist to it. The roster on the SD side was loaded, especially in the main event picture.

    Was never really a fan of the whole Steph/Vince angle, but as long as we don't see a Father/Daughter I Quit Match at No Mercy, I'm all for the one-up, power struggle feud between these two.

    God, listening to that SD intro brings back memories. Damn Keefmoon, wish it was 03 again. Such a simpler time.

    John Cena, basic thuganomics. Awesome. I'm not sure if you wrote that little rap yourself but if you did, you sir are a jack of all trades. The match between Cena/Benoit was just fine, and even though Cena got the win because of Rhyno, it's still considered a huge win in my book.

    Eddie as US champ is great, here's hoping you give him a long run until an eventual World title push begins. Eddie was the man.

    Man, you've really got a great grip on the Smackdown side of things so far, it has been a pleasure to read. Love incorporating Dinsmore/Jeter as two jobbers. Hoping you give Dinsmore a proper push and none of that Eugene shit he was stuck with.

    Matt Hardy v1.0 is another great thing about this project. Curious to see where this all leads, but im guessing a Hardy/Moore vs. APA feud that could be tons of fun to write.

    Awesome match between WGTT and Kidman/Misterio. Wish they could just fight every single week. Tajiri with the mist! Curious to see where this all leads to.

    Classic Big Evil right here. I can totally picture this segment taking place. Great work.

    Great finish to the main event, keeping Big Show strong by taking both an Angle Slam and a clothesline from Taker. You also kept Brock strong here as well. Such a stacked main event scene that I wouldn't mind a Fatal Four Way down the road at all. Awesome show and pumped for next week.

    Man, after reading everything so far, this is just a purely awesome BTB. Honestly, I'm more hooked on SD than RAW at the moment, but that all could change. Keep up the great work brother, I'll be reading.

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    Re: WWE: Where It All Begins... Again

    Thanks guys. Honestly, it’s so motivating and rewarding to see that people aren’t just reading it, but engaging with it. So thank you, one and all.

    Thank you also to those giving constructive feedback. I’ll touch on them below, but even though I’ll put forward my point of view on what I was going for, I will try to learn from the feedback. It’s the only way to get better, after all.


    Quote Originally Posted by ranthellacious View Post
    Alright. All caught up. Figured I'd jump in with the newest edition of Raw and then hopefully review each show as they are released.

    First off, you've got everyone's characters nailed, which is great.

    September 8th review.


    God I miss Across The Nation.

    Awesome way to start the show, with what could basically be the main event of any Raw. Great showing for Kane.

    "Here comes the jobbers" Laughed hard.

    The whole Evolution / Michaels / Austin segment was great. Like I said, you've got everyone nailed, and I could hear Austin when reading what you wrote for him.

    Typical La Resistance heel tactics. Loved the 3D spot.

    Christian trying to manipulate Jericho. Good stuff.

    UNFORGIVEN!!

    Ooooooooh Evolution drama already!!

    Jindrak!! Always been a big Jindrak fan..so uhhh..push that guy.

    Jericho with the win!! Gotta wonder with how it played out, if Henry will be coming for him.

    Molly! Gail! Trish! Gail Kim got the win!! God damn I love the '03 roster.

    Interested to see where you go with the Test Steiner storyline.

    Orton is back on team evolution! Wonder if it's for real though...

    Good win for Triple H. Everyone gets involved but we still end the night with the same Unforgiven main event which is what we needed.

    Loved Goldberg ripping the door off the hinges.

    Another good show man, as you continue on the road to Unforgiven. Really enjoying this so far, the only real complaint I have is I know you wanted to stick to realism, but coming out of Summerslam you coulda taken things in a few different directions and I'm pretty sure, with the exception of the IC Championship three way now being a singles, you kept it the same, match for match.

    That's my only complaint, so I'm looking forward to post Unforgiven Raw, and the build to No Mercy, to see what happens when you start to veer off in your own direction! Keep up the good work!!
    That’s a fair complaint. The build to Unforgiven is pretty similar to real life, which isn’t ideal I agree.

    However, before I’d even started booking, we already had:


    • HHH vs Goldberg: Booked and locked in
    • Michaels vs Orton: Been built for months, and ramped up at Summerslam
    • Kane vs Shane: Built up for months
    • Dudleys vs La Res: Built up for over a month
    • Steiner vs Test: Been built since about May


    Unfortunately, that didn’t leave a lot of wiggle room. What I’ve been aiming to do is take what they actually did but actually book it better, and that includes how the actual matches will be booked during the PPV. I’ve also not included King & JR vs Snow & Coach, which automatically makes my version of Unforgiven better straightaway!

    Hopefully the show works okay for you anyway, and then from the night after onwards, we’ll move further down the road I’d like to go down.


    Quote Originally Posted by Sykotic View Post
    Smackdown Review

    Quality opening. Stephanie laying down the law, giving Taker and Angle a chance for revenge whilst also planting seeds to cause friction between her Daddy's hired guns.

    Show opens up well with Cena on the rap again. Benoit/Cena finish kept both strong whilst the aftermath set up nicely for the Eddie save. Loving the Rhyno introduction to this feud.

    Eddie cheats his way to victory, but that's the Eddie we know and love. Would be pretty great if we had a multi-man title match at the PPV to keep all these PPVs moving along.

    Brock and Show don't have a brain cell between them, and Steph's plan has worked marvellously. The implosion is imminent.

    Good litle moment between Kidman and Mysterio to lead on the search for a partner for Kidman. Has to be Paul London? Surely?

    We want Eugene!! We want Eugene!! No? Okay! Squash victory for The Bashams. Exactly what they need to keep building themselves up.

    Nice twist from Vince. Just when everything seemed to be going right for Stephanie, he throws a big spanner in the works. Good booking.

    "My mortal enemy", "My only leg", "He did it Cole", comedy writing at his best. Seriously had a few chuckles at this. Hardy and Moore took care of Gowen but they've got their hands full now with the APA.

    Big win for The Filthy Animals... but Tajiri leaves a lasting presence again by taking out Kidman and misting Mysterio again. Maybe Kidman/Tajiri next week, which would be great. Also what to say about Kidman/Mysterio beating the Tag Champs... it would mean a title shot surely but Mysterio has got his hands full.

    Nice Eddie video.

    Not sure the Tajiri match was even necessary. He made a big enough statement earlier in the nigh but for sure it continues the CW storyline.

    Main event time!!! And the implosion arrives!!! Going to be one interesting main event next week, wonder if it will all end up backfiring for Stephanie.

    Another great episode Keefmoon and I'm excited to see what happens on both shows next week... keep the great work coming!!!
    Matt is great fun to write for at the moment. There’s something about insane levels of obnoxiousness that I love writing about. It was part of the issue with my previous BTB – my plans were for Scotty Flamingo to become ridiculously obnoxious, but in the summaries I just couldn’t do it justice, and I found that frustrating.


    Quote Originally Posted by sebsy View Post
    Another solid Smackdown.

    Not really much else to say other than that, as I'm not one for commenting on each segment.

    Really enjoying this so far, the shows really do flow so well, it's an easy read, has good humour and makes me wish WWE would ,ove back towards what the WWE was at this point, to a certain degree anyway.

    Keep it up
    Yeah I think the flow of shows is really important. I don’t want every single segment to be enormous, but at the same time, I want there to be a certain energy to things. I find it so frustrating sometimes these days when I watch Raw and I find myself looking at my phone after twenty minutes. There’s just no momentum to anything.


    Quote Originally Posted by Stojy View Post
    So I missed Raw again in terms of feedback although I did read and enjoy. The improvements on the Kane and Goldberg situation are already making the show so much better. Only thing I wasn’t completely behind as others have already mentioned is the tension between Triple H and Orton. I understand by your explanation what you’re trying to achieve, however the tension was WAY over the top this early on, it just felt a little forced. Anyway onto Smackdown…

    I’m glad you mentioned September 11, realism counts. Opening with Stephanie’s quick statement after she didn’t appear last week was fine. The announcement of tonight’s tag match kind of makes sense, and whilst I understand the concept of Steph pitting Brock/Show against each other, it makes no sense to offer them a title opportunity after last week. And surely ‘Taker will feel hard done by this as well? I don’t know, I get the concept but I feel like the logic in me is saying things shouldn’t work this way. Only other thing I can think of is Steph and ‘Taker were tight back during this time period so maybe it’s a set up. Either way, hoping you bring the Steph/Vince feud to a halt pronto.

    Much like last week, credit for the Cena rap, this was another pretty fun one. Cena clearly giving all his attention to Guerrero makes for a really fun feud; however Benoit wanting revenge for last week makes perfect sense. Awesome little segment with the cheap shot back firing and I look forward to the match.

    Cena/Benoit match went pretty much as expected with Benoit dominating a fair portion, before Cena ended up cheating to get the win. I was a little shocked by the interference from Rhyno but obviously happy because he’s my boy. A Train and Rhyno getting involved still provides Cena with a big win whilst Benoit doesn’t lose anything. The tease of Cena being face like by stopping the attack only to beat up Benoit himself is TREMENDOUS. Considering the fans are just begging to cheer him at this point, that’s perfect. Really good stuff here.

    And straight into the US Title match, segments continuing into each other feels a little like ECW, which again, you know I love. Perfect booking again here with a standard Eddie win as Cena’s interference backfires and Guerrero cheats to win. No complaints at all, and Eddie/Cena continues to build nicely.

    Based off of this earlier announcement, it makes sense to show a divide between Big Show and Brock. Vince getting frustrated is standard but what I liked here, is the way these two stayed as big bad asses, not letting themselves be lectured by the boss. Instead they kept bickering before going their separate ways. It’s going to be very interesting to see how this pans out. Good stuff.

    LMAO at the Mysterio/Kidman complicated handshake, found that to be pretty funny. Kidman convincing Rey to be his partner is fine, but I’m glad Mysterio hasn’t forgotten about Tajiri as well.

    The Basham Brothers were never that great in my opinion, but you probably need all the teams you can get in the tag division, so the idea of repackaging them to be a little more serious is fine. I marked out for the Dinsmore and Jeter appearances but the right call was obviously made here with The Basham’s going over.

    Well, I guess Vince is trying to flick the script on Stephanie by making her a referee. The back and forth between the two felt really natural which is always a bonus, although I’m not sure how I feel about Vince making Steph the referee. It kind of puts her in harm’s way but it also gives her the opportunity to influence the match. Seems risky.

    I can’t remember if I mentioned it in my feedback last week but I love Matt Hardy Version One as a character. I wrote a WWE 2004 thread back in the day and I had big plans for the character but never got very far, so now I’ll live vicariously through you. LOL at the audacity and straight lying to say he dealt with The APA last week. Hardy calling out and then beating up the one legged Gowan is standard Hardy throughout this time period. I really enjoyed this, I thought it was sensational.

    I’m intrigued as to how Unforgiven will pan out in terms of format and detail.

    Considering Mysterio’s beef with Tajiri, I didn’t necessarily expect Rey and Kidman to get the win here, but this obviously means they qualify for another title shot at some point. A very good match this would have been as well. Tajiri attacking both men after the match was a nice reminder that he still wants Mysterio, and I have a feeling Tajiri could cause huge problems between Mysterio and Kidman. Good stuff here.

    Some nice Guerrero hype just because…

    Angle/Taker segment was great as a concept however the execution didn’t exactly hit home from me. I don’t mind them not being all buddy buddy, all they need to do is have a mutual understanding. ‘Taker refusing to admit they are on the same page was okay, however the whole spitting on the floor thing just felt unnecessary and disrespectful towards Angle. I know Undertaker is the ABA at this point, but that part of the segment really ruined it for me.

    Tajiri looks dominant here against Funaki and after the match, before fleeing. Kidman and Rey looking for revenge is fine, solid stuff. I’m marking out for Tajiri looking beastly as well.

    The battle between Steph and Vince continues with the female McMahon now banning Vince from ringside. The back and forth between Show and Lesnar and then Steph was all written pretty well here. I enjoyed the threat from Lesnar to Steph for next week, and it finally looks like the two monsters are on the same page. Solid stuff.

    Main event time and I thought this match flowed pretty well. You teased Show/Lesnar being back on good terms yet they were still gloating to each other. The ending with Brock accidentially hitting Show is the perfecy way to book this match, and Angle and Taker get a huge win. The nod of respect from ‘Taker here makes me further believe the spit on the floor earlier was completely unnecessary. It seems like a big switch to go from spitting at somebody to nodding in respect all in one night. What we are really here for though was the aftermath with McMahon not being able to control his goons and Show and Lesnar throwing hands. Perfect way to end the show, hyping next week’s main event.

    A couple of tiny things I mentioned throughout but this show was another very good read. I still really do feel like I’m reading/watching shows from this time period which is terrific. A very good show and next week’s Smackdown’s card looks all kinds of stacked as well. Keep up the fantastic work, this thread is definitely one to watch.
    You know, I didn’t really think anything of the spit when I was writing it. Ginger Biker Taker to me was kind of a dick. Like, he spends all his time moaning about respect, and yet was actually quite disrespectful to pretty much everyone. It just seemed like one of those things that he’d probably do what with all his macho bluster, but ultimately, once someone really earned his respect he’d show it.

    That said, I do kind of get what you mean. It was intended as a tiny thing to provide some flavour to the segment, but I see how it could have not come across well when it’s written how it is. I’ll work on that kind of thing for next time.

    With the title shot opportunity for Show and Brock, I didn’t get the sense Steph was giving them an opportunity that she’d think was a risk given the bigger picture. If Vince, Show and Brock are aligned, she’s screwed. If she can dangle a title shot in front of them (like her dad would have done), maybe they’ll rip each other apart and she can regain control again. At least, that was what I was going for. After all, Vince will probably just give them a title shot eventually anyway, so why not try and benefit from it first?


    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf Beast View Post
    The Stephanie promo accomplished a few bits and pieces nicely, as you established she’s back and in control right at the top of the show, but doing it outside of the ring, meaning we didn’t get a god awful in ring segment that would’ve had to have Vince interrupt. Got the business out of the way nice a quick here, and the Brock/Show announcement was a sneakily great chess move by Steph to create dissension between Vince’s goons.


    The one and only issue I had is that Undertaker didn’t have anything to say on the matter during the show, not bringing it up during his showdown with Angle, despite his own title shot was marred last week. I get that he wouldn’t be the type to complain to Stephanie about it, but I’d have liked him to express some dissatisfaction that he’s been left out in the cold.


    That might actually be the only issue I had with this show, because everything else had a purpose, flowed on from last week, and set up what’s to come in the coming weeks.


    The Cena promo was magnificent. I can’t imagine how time consuming it must be (the Gertner promo I wrote took a number of goes) to be doing this consistently. Comes off very well though, and you make it look a lot easier than I’m sure it is. For all the lewd rhymes, my actual favourite part of this was his retort to Benoit with the tooth fairy line.


    Cena vs Benoit feels like a big match to give away unadvertised, but it’s still pre mega star Cena, so I guess at this point, it still isn’t *that* big that it should be saved. Another big win notched up for Cena keeps him rolling, and the right result for sure imo. Cena powering out of the Crossface is a major face spot to be doing, and the tease of him stopping Train and Rhyno before actually leading the attack felt like some foreshadowing for a future face turn. He’s getting a lot of shine right now, and much like in real life, the fans may end up turning him for you at this rate.


    I always like seeing two matches back to back like we had here from the Eddie run in saving Benoit. Just makes the show flow seamlessly to me and adds an extra bit of energy to proceedings by keeping the action going in front of the fans. Didn’t give A-Train a hope of winning, so this served well as a solid title defence for the champion, fitting in some trademark lying, cheating and stealing to get the win. Nice touch too with the Eddie vignette later in the show. Makes him look like much more of a star.


    Enjoyed seeing Lesnar and Show at each other’s throats. It’s always irritating when the past is just forgotten because people are now teaming up - especially when the feud was heated like theirs.


    Looks like Vinces dream team may not last too long at this rate, but Vince appointing Steph as referee next week is intriguing. Not sure what his plan may be, except for just wanting her in harms way, but I look forward to see how that situation shakes out.


    Fully assumed Kidman would be introducing London as his partner, but turning to Rey makes total sense too. Rey will be spinning a few plates for the time being it seems, getting involved in a tag program whilst defending the Cruiserweight title. It might just be me reading into things too much, but something about Kidman sounded ‘off’ here, looking out for himself and his interests despite Rey telling him he had his hands full with Tajiri. Again, could just be me looking for something that isn’t there.


    The change in look for the Bashams works for me. Think they can be taken much more seriously with the Arn/Tully vibe, which is a good thing. The fact Dinsmore is coming back again next week with another partner is intriguing. Potentially going to have Dinsmore/Conway’s old team brought to Smackdown perhaps?
    EDIT; Ignore that last bit. Totally forgot Conway is already on Raw*


    If it wasn’t for Cena’s rap, this Hardy segment would’ve been the highlight of the show again. This was great fun to read, and you’ve got Hardy absolutely nailed down with the V1 gimmick. Calling Gowen his mortal enemy had me creasing. Gowen too can be a fun character to have around, based solely on the fact he has a unique selling point in having one leg, and some of the angles you could play around with, especially as a sympathetic character. Hardy is clearly going to be a weekly highlight in this thread.


    Tajiri is coming across nicely as the silent but deadly heel. Him taking out Rey and Kidman before his match build nicely off last weeks show, and the quick win over Funaki was just what was required here too. He’s looking like a real threat to Rey.


    It certainly feels like this title situation is bubbling up toward a fatal four way at No Mercy. There’s bound to be shenanigans next week, and with Taker winning here and not losing last week, he’s obviously got a legit claim to a rematch too. Didn’t expect a finish in this main event, but you protected Show enough with the Brock accident, and by taking two finishers to be put down for the three. Perfect teaser for next week here too at the end.


    Another highly entertaining and enjoyable read, so early on in this thread. I’m even enjoying how the McMahon stuff is playing out with the one-upsmanship going on.
    Jeez, ‘Taker’s pissing off everyone today! I kid, I kid.

    My sense was that it would have been out of character to complain to Steph about getting a title shot, especially once he was given an opportunity for revenge in the tag match. That said, he probably could have dropped a line in when chatting to Angle or something to show that he was pissed. Good point.


    Quote Originally Posted by Bigmc123 View Post
    Good little introduction to the show with Stephanie responding back to Vince and trying to get one move ahead in this human chess match between McMahon. I do wonder how Taker will react to this.

    Awesome rap from Cena. I laughed so hard at your comments on Benoit getting a microphone comment. Was waiting for this match to be made and it is a good start to the show. Good win for Cena and I liked how you had commentary put over that he has beaten Eddie and Chris….good job of using commentary to put over the story…something I need to work into my show.

    Nice little win for Guerrero…never really saw A Train have much of a chance in this match.

    Good little segment from Vince, Show and Brock…I like the tension that you created between the two monsters that you have been creating. I am enjoying this feud and beign that we are in September…I can see a Steph vs. Vince Survivor Series match coming out of this.

    Interesting seeing you go with Rey and Kidman as the tag team…I don’t see this lasting long bc of Mysterio with the CW title….I wonder if Kidman will just keep looking for another partner until he finds one that fits.

    Simple squash match for the Basham…looking for some more character development from them.

    Interesting making Steph the special guest referee…I can see a huge angle coming out of this.

    Mattitude Version 1.0 is still one of my favorite things going on this entire forum right now. I like that you added to it with the entrance and still had a Matt Fact. Matt calling out Gowen and being so over the top was just perfect…really good stuff right now.

    Interesting to have Mysterio/Kidman win here…I was sure they would lose and Kidman would move on to the next tag partner…I like that you had Tajiri hit Mysterio with the mist again. I wonder what is going to happen when Mysterio has to put the CW title first.

    I love the way that you build to a main event with different segments through out the show…you did it on RAW with Evolution and doing it on SD with the Vince/Steph feud leading to the tag team match….great job on that…

    I also love that you are making me care about tajiri…I always felt that the mist was underused by him….i’d love to see what you going do with him

    Great main event with the right guys going over and next week is a loaded show esp with the main event….cant wait for RAW
    A couple of people have mentioned Rey & Kidman, and the Tag Titles/CW title. One thing that I look for in my booking and writing is to try and interconnect things a little more than they do IRL. It always bugs me when one person is in a rivalry and they seem to have no other interests than that one rivalry. It’s the same when people forget their history with someone and become friends for no real reason. I want to try and create a real universe in which people have goals and aspirations and friends and so on. Why wouldn’t Rey help out a friend in need just because he’s the Cruiserweight Champion? It might mean he spreads himself too thinly, but then that just opens potential for other stories to tell, you know? I hope to include more of this kinda thing going forward too.


    Quote Originally Posted by iMac View Post
    Not really got the time right now for a full review, but thought I'd give you some thoughts on SmackDown...

    I think two highlights of the show were your characterisation of Matt Hardy and John Cena. Certainly they're two heels who are highlights of the undercard right now. Mattitude V1 was always a great gimmick imo, probably some of Matt's best stuff and you've been doing it plenty of justice so far. Same could be said for Cena and the raps, which I thought was pretty well written. Cena is obviously ascending up the card that bit quicker, and he and Benoit is a hell of a match to give away unannounced. But a really big win for Cena nontheless, seems like he's being geared up for a shot at Guerrero and the US Title, which I'm assuming you'll save for pay per view. As for Hardy, that was pretty dastardly to attack Gowen like that, but mega heat for Hardy for doing so. But yeah, these two really stood out as young-ish heels on the rise and there characters were both pretty spot on.

    Seems to be you're gearing up for a fatal four way for the big belt, which given the names involved could be a great match when we finally get to it. I liked the nod to the history between Lesnar and Show, I always hate when guys who have a heated feud like a year or so earlier then team up and it's not even mentioned or alluded to. And then the fallout takes place, certainly seems like Vince's plan isn't going how he wants it to. Out of interest, when you get round to your next QandA post, what is this power struggle between Steph and Vince all about? Is it a real life story you've carried on with? As for next week, can't see anything other than mayhem involving all four men when Lesnar and Show collide. What Vince will do next seems the bigger question, this week doesn't seem to have worked out for him and Steph seems to have gotten the upperhand, so expecting McMahon to find a way to answer back.

    Tag team division seems to be getting a push, although one slight criticism would be that you had six matches on this card and three of them were tag matches. Obviously the main event is outwith the tag division, but Mysterio and Kidman coming together to challenge for the gold would be a great addition and a feud with them and Hass/Benjamin could lead to some pretty exciting matches. That and a more serious Basham Brothers certainly shows you're putting some real effort into it.

    Overall, I thought this was a really solid show. I'd checked out of wrestling during this time frame so some things I'm not too clued up on (Steph/Vince for example), but there's plenty of talent and the SmackDown undercard is stacked right now. Be really interesting to see how you handle the development of Cena and Hardy, they both seem like they could be major players in the very near future for you.
    Ugh, the Vince-Steph beef. That started way before my BTB began, or else I would not have wanted to book it.

    In reality, it came from ratings and buyrates going down and Vince panicking, so we got McMahons all over every show. Shane on Raw, Steph and Vince on Smackdown. In fact, I think between them we had 9 McMahon matches on PPV in 2003 (3 Shane, 4 Vince, 2 Steph, although could be wrong on that). It was the normal self-indulgent stuff you get from them, tbh.

    In kayfabe? It’s hard to say. Vince appointed Steph, but within about a year got annoyed with her and wanted her out. I think it started when she hired Mr America, which was Hulk Hogan under a mask (this was just after Vince fought Hogan at ‘Mania 19) and I think it got worse when she hired Zach Gowen, who again, ended up in a match with Vince.

    In real life they ended up having an I Quit match at No Mercy, which seems excessive. It was all a bit of an ill-thought out blur, though, with the logic being “people love the McMahons!” and working back from there.

    Unfortunately, given when I took this project on I’ll have to keep the feud going, but hopefully take it in a direction that is at least more interesting that the one they went with, and hopefully in the process will help get other talents over, which is surely the whole point of having the McMahons there in the first place.


    Quote Originally Posted by BattleTank View Post
    Just gonna drop some quick thoughts on the entire project thus far, reviewing the current Unforgiven card for RAW and gonna give some thoughts on your latest SD.

    First off, this time period will go down for me as one of my favorites of all time. Being 11/12 years old at the time, I was at the peak of my WWE watching days. This was for the most part my fondest WWE memories.

    RAW has been excellent so far. I love the way you've booked Goldberg to not look like a complete idiot as he did at this time. Fresh off losing at Summerslam to a severely crippled HHH at the time, even 11 year old me could realize that they were tentative on giving this guy the belt. When he didn't win it at Summerslam, I knew even if a reign was coming it would be short-lived. You've already built more momentum for him over 2 shows than they did during his entire stint. Excited to see this match unfold at Unforgiven.

    Legend Killer Orton is also one of my favorite guys during this time period. Evolution as a whole has been booked great so far, and a nice program with HBK is just what Orton needs to reach the next rung in the main event scene.

    Also glad you've gotten rid of the nonsense that was Kane lighting JR on fire, tombstoning Linda and shocking Shane's nutsack. Maybe that all happened prior to the start of your project, but if it didn't, kudos for just building him as a no-bullshit monster looking to destroy Shane the way a monster should.

    The Christian/Jericho program was one of the only things IMO done right during this time period, but you have a grasp of each character down to a science so it is still a fun read regardless. Hoping Jericho gets the belt at Unforgiven.

    La Resistance/Dudleys program has been good so far. Not too much you can do with either team other than the whole USA/France thing. Hoping the Dudleys get the belts back.

    Stacy Kiebler and Torrie Wilson were probably one of the biggest reasons I was a huge WWE fan at the time...because of their...uhh...wrestling skills lol. I used to get pissed watching Test boss her around, so even though Steiner/Test doesn't sound the best on paper, I'm all in for this angle.

    Now time for the Smackdown side. Such great wrestling at the time. SD was way ahead of RAW in regards to storylines and matches in real life, but being the extraordinary booker that you are, you have no problem adding your own twist to it. The roster on the SD side was loaded, especially in the main event picture.

    Was never really a fan of the whole Steph/Vince angle, but as long as we don't see a Father/Daughter I Quit Match at No Mercy, I'm all for the one-up, power struggle feud between these two.

    God, listening to that SD intro brings back memories. Damn Keefmoon, wish it was 03 again. Such a simpler time.

    John Cena, basic thuganomics. Awesome. I'm not sure if you wrote that little rap yourself but if you did, you sir are a jack of all trades. The match between Cena/Benoit was just fine, and even though Cena got the win because of Rhyno, it's still considered a huge win in my book.

    Eddie as US champ is great, here's hoping you give him a long run until an eventual World title push begins. Eddie was the man.

    Man, you've really got a great grip on the Smackdown side of things so far, it has been a pleasure to read. Love incorporating Dinsmore/Jeter as two jobbers. Hoping you give Dinsmore a proper push and none of that Eugene shit he was stuck with.

    Matt Hardy v1.0 is another great thing about this project. Curious to see where this all leads, but im guessing a Hardy/Moore vs. APA feud that could be tons of fun to write.

    Awesome match between WGTT and Kidman/Misterio. Wish they could just fight every single week. Tajiri with the mist! Curious to see where this all leads to.

    Classic Big Evil right here. I can totally picture this segment taking place. Great work.

    Great finish to the main event, keeping Big Show strong by taking both an Angle Slam and a clothesline from Taker. You also kept Brock strong here as well. Such a stacked main event scene that I wouldn't mind a Fatal Four Way down the road at all. Awesome show and pumped for next week.

    Man, after reading everything so far, this is just a purely awesome BTB. Honestly, I'm more hooked on SD than RAW at the moment, but that all could change. Keep up the great work brother, I'll be reading.
    Unfortunately, the Linda Tombstone happened a few months before this project started, and the burning dumpster was the week before. Shane’s nads will remain unelectrified, though.

    I hated the Shane/Kane feud IRL. It was such a waste of Kane. I adored Shane from 1999-2001 because he was presented as a fearless kid who was in way over his head and tried anyway, and usually lost. Then this feud came along and it started the pattern we now know of Shane for some reason being presented as a genuine threat, even though just by looking at him you can tell he’s not.

    My plan, and I hope this is coming through, is to take it back to basics. Kane is a psychopathic monster who just wants to destroy everything. Shane wants revenge for his mother but is in way over his head and keeps getting killed, but keeps coming back because he’s tough (if a little dumb). The story of their match should be “how in the hell can Shane survive, let alone get revenge?”, not “who will win this 50/50 battle between equals?”, which is insane.

    As for the Cena rap, I write those myself. Before I start writing them, I listen to a couple of raps he actually did to try and get a feel for the inflection and language, so it’s possible subconsciously some things he actually said filter through by mistake. But I’m trying to do them myself as they present an interesting challenge. I’ll probably get bored of the challenge eventually and stop doing them, but for now they’re really good fun to write.


    Thanks again all, glad to see people are still enjoying and engaging. I’m putting the finishing touches on Raw, so hopefully that’ll be up inn the next couple of days. It’s the last Raw before Unforgiven, so to me it’s the last of the previous era, with the next episode of Raw being the first in my era, which is exciting.

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    Smackdown time!!!!!!



    Two big matches announced!! Awesome to see you pitting the two massive forces against each other next week with a shot at the gold on the line. And the tag match tonight sounds awesome.

    Opening credits brings back so many memories haha.

    FUCKING GREAT Cena rap. Had me laughing out loud.

    Awesome opening contest between Benoit and Cena. The interference was perfect, as was the set up for the championship match right after. Liking this makeshift team of Cena, A-Train and Rhyno.

    Awww yeah. Can feel the tension between Brock and Big Show. I feel like the tag match is going to go badly and then the two men will just destroy eachother in the match next week.

    Pretty awesome that you are building up the Bashams.

    MATTITUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Man, you wrote him perfectly in this segment. Him pinning Gowan and making Moore count the pin was exactly something I could see him doing.

    Huge victory for Kidman and Mysterio. Wonder where it will lead, picking up a big victory of the tag team champions would make you assume a championship match...but with Tajiri around, I'm not quite sure.

    Oh man...Taker and Angle aren't on the same page..Show and Lesnar aren't on the same page. Tonight is gonna be chaos.

    Good squash victory for Tajiri.

    Brock and Show surrounding Steph was definitely something that woulda happened.

    Great match. Big win for Angle and Taker, but the right team won. They have to have another match soon , and I can't wait. Brock accidentally striking Show with the belt was awesome, and definitely added to what is sure to be a ruthless match next week.

    Speaking of, one hell of a card for next weeks Smackdown!!

    Man, you continue to impress. Everything feels like it's straight from that time period and everyone sounds and feels like they should. Raw was good, but Smackdown was great. Can't wait for next week!


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    Monday, September 15th, 2003
    Columbia, South Carolina





    The show opens with the usual pyrotechnic display, with the fans seemingly more pumped than ever.

    “We’re just six days out for Unforgiven,” JR says. “Six days until Goldberg puts his career on the line for a shot at Triple H, and tonight will have HUGE ramifications on that show. I’m Good ‘Ol JR, Jim Ross, alongside me is Jerry-“


    ***YOU KNOW IT’S THE MACMILLITANT***


    Before JR can get any further through his opening spiel, we are ‘treated’ to an appearance from THEODORE LONG, flanked as always by MARK HENRY and RODNEY MACK.

    “Now, hold up a minnit, playas,” Long says to a chorus of boos. “Before we get this show started, I need ta holla somethin’ at ya. Y’see, last week in the 15-man Battle Royal, my clients Mark Henry and Rodney Mack came close to winnin’. If there was any justice… they already woulda been made tha winners. They dominated tha entire field… only for dat white boy Chris Jericho to take tha win.

    The crowd pop for the increasingly popular Y2J.

    “Now, I dunno about you, but to me, this seems to be 'nother case-a white-y holdin’ my boys back. Ya feel me? This is pure haterising, plain and simple. Belie’ dat! So I’m out here t'say, Eric Bischoff, Steve Austin, I’m gon’ need one of you playas to come down here and give my boys that title shot. ‘Cos if you don’t-“


    ***BREAK THE WALLS DOWN!***


    The crowd erupt for the appearance of CHRIS JERICHO, who confidently struts down to the ring and takes a microphone.

    “Good God, Teddy,” he begins, “would you please… SHUT… THE HELL… UP!”

    The crowd explode for the return of a much-loved catchphrase.

    “Listen here, junior,” Jericho continues. “I don’t know what your problem is, but frankly, m’dear, I don’t give a damn. So we’re going to need you to shut your mouth, get your head out of your ass, and get the hell out of my ring. YA FEEL ME, PLAYAS?”

    “Now, hold up a minnit,”
    Long interrupts. “Why you gotta be haterising like dat? You know that my boys were the better men last week, and-“

    “No, you hold up a minute, assclown. Last week, I took on both of your ‘boys’, and I threw them both out of the ring like the trash they were. But if they wanted to try me, then I’d happily give them a beating that they will NEEEEVVVVEEERRRRR… EEEEVVVVVVVEEE-“


    Mark Henry jumps Jericho! Rodney Mack joins in and together they beat the hell out of Y2J to the boos of the fans… when CHRISTIAN runs down with a steel chair! Before he can swing Long grabs Henry and Mack and tells them to vacate the ring, leaving Christian and Jericho on their own. Christian leans over the top rope as he challenges them to come back and fight.

    Chris Jericho and Christian: Babyfaces?


    ***


    Ric Flair vs. Maven

    After weeks of getting in Evolution's business, Maven finally gets a shot here against arguably the greatest wrestler in history, Ric Flair. It's possible he is overawed by the experience, as he continually falls for every one of the Nature Boy's tricks. Maven's sheer athleticism allows him to stay in the match, but ultimately, they don't call Flair 'the man' for nothing. Despite Maven's best efforts, he eventually taps to the Figure Four.

    Winner: Ric Flair in 6:03


    After the match, Flair, panting from being taken to the edge by the youngster, helps Maven to his feet. He whispers something in his ear, and offers a handshake.

    "Well, what an unexpected bit of class from Ric Flair," JR says. "The kid pushed him to his limit, and knowing he has the respect of a legend such as-"

    JR doesn't even get the chance to finish his sentence before Ric Flair kicks Maven between the legs.


    ***


    We transition to a close-up of Kane's whited-out eye...

    "Hideous..."

    … we see him set JR on fire...

    "Gruesome..."

    … we see him surrounded by police officers, leading him out of an armoured police van...

    "Sadistic..."

    … we see him setting the casket on fire at the 1998 Royal Rumble...

    "Grotesque..."

    … we see him unmask...

    "Violent..."

    … we see him beating Shane McMahon to a bloody pulp...

    "Cruel..."

    … we see his debut, when he ripped the doors on Hell in a Cell and Tombstoned his own brother...

    "Perverted..."

    … we see him Tombstone Linda McMahon on the steel stage...

    "Vicious..."

    We see him laughing manically at carnage surrounding him.

    "Unforgiven."



    Raw Presents WWE Unforgiven, LIVE on pay-per-view, Sunday, September 21st.



    ***



    CHRIS JERICHO is being tended to by a medical professional when CHRISTIAN walks in.

    "Hey, man, how's it going?" Christian asks, and playfully slaps Jericho's injured shoulder. Jericho winces in pain. "Oh, man, sorry about that. They really did a number on you earlier, huh?"

    "Yeah, they did. But this is nothing compared to what I'm going to do to them in our tag match later on."

    "Oh, sure, no doubt,"
    Christian says. "You and I, I and you. They're going to get a healthy dose... of Vitamin C!"

    "That's not all their gonna get,"
    Jericho says, wincing as he stretches out his injured shoulder. "Thanks for having my back earlier, by the way. You're a good friend."

    "Come on, buddy, think nothing of it! You'd do the same for me. We're in this together. Speaking of which, hell of a win for you last week. Number One Contender, huh?"


    Jericho nods.

    "So happy for you, bud! You took those fourteen other men, and you-"

    "What are you getting at, Christian?"

    "I'm not getting at anything! Man, you're so paranoid these days. I'm worried this belt is coming between us, man, I really am."

    "So, let me guess. You think I shouldn't take my shot at your title at Unforgiven?"


    Christian feigns shock. "What?! No way, man, you earned that shot. You were a pretty good Intercontinental Champion once upon a time, and you'd make a really credible challenger for me."

    Jericho nods.

    "But, you know," Christian continues, “now that you've mentioned it, you do raise an interesting point. This title is getting in the way of our friendship lately. And I did risk my own health to save you earlier on, and-"

    "The answer's no, Christian. Again. I earned that title shot, and I'm going to take it. You're going to have to find a way to be okay with that. But that's not for six days. We need to worry about Mark Henry and Rodney Mack first. I need to get ready."


    Jericho gets up from the bench and leaves the medical room for his locker room. Christian can only watch him go.


    ***


    Meanwhile, we cut backstage to the interview area, where Terri Runnels and her needlessly low-cut top stands by with SHANE MCMAHON.

    "Shane," Terri begins. "Last week you shocked the world by leaping off the top of the steel cage to-"

    "Whoa, whoa, whoa!"
    ERIC BISCHOFF says as he walks in to shot. "Who gave permission for this interview to take place?"

    "Steve Austin said-"

    "I don't care what Steve Austin said. I say this interview isn't going ahead, and that's final. That is, if you value your job?"


    Terri starts to sulk away.

    "Wait a minute," Shane says. " If you value your job, Eric, maybe you'll stop threatening people. Or did you forget why Austin was brought in in the first place? Do I need to call my dad?"

    Bischoff laughs. "Do what you want, kid. I know for a fact that your father hates your guts. In fact, he called me specifically to say that he wants Kane to be at 100% for your Last Man Standing match at Unforgiven. He just can't wait to see you get in the ring with that psychopath. So I'm here to tell you that, as Kane is in action next, you are to go nowhere near the ringside area, okay? In fact, you are barred from ringside. And if you so much as walk out in front of the fans tonight, your match with Kane will be cancelled. That's right. No righteous revenge from Shane O'Mac for mommy dearest. Enjoy the match."


    ***


    Kane vs. Goldust

    An unmitigated slaughter. Goldust is no slouch, but he gets NOTHING in this one. Chokeslam, Tombstone, see ya later.

    Winner: Kane in 1:42


    Kane laughs at the ease with which he dominant something of a formidable opponent, as Goldust starts to stir. The Golden One slaps his hands on the mat in frustration, having been embarrassed last week by Evolution, and this week by Kane. Kane stares a hole right through him as Goldust verbally abuses himself... and then slaps Kane around the face!

    Kane's glare intensifies, so Goldust closes his eyes, clenches his face, and mouths "just do it."

    Kane indeed does do it. "It" being flipping Goldust upside down and nailing him with another devastating Tombstone.

    "Have you ever seen Kane in a more dominant mood," JR asks? "Goldust is a former Intercontinental and Tag Team Champion, and Kane tore through him like he was a wet Kleenex."

    "All I know,"
    JR says, "is I wouldn't want to be Shane McMahon come Sund-"

    "Wait a minute!"


    As Kane lifts his arms for the usual display of ringpost fire, SHANE MCMAHON runs down the ramp with a chair and crashes it in to Kane's back! The big man doesn't go down, but stumbles around the ring as Shane swings again... and again... and again! But Kane still doesn't go down!

    Shane spins Kane around, steps back and charges... straight in to a choke from Kane! CHOKESLAM!

    Kane laughs as the crowd boo, but he doesn’t look finished yet. He lifts Shane from the mat and spins him upside down for a Tombstone... but suddenly stops, and instead drops Shane back down to the mat with a thud. Kane then leans in to his unconscious face.

    "Not tonight," he growls, with the camera close enough to pick up every word. "I want something left for me to destroy at Unforgiven."

    "What a vile human being Kane is!"
    JR says.

    "You're not wrong about that!" King says. "But what about the match on Sunday? Bischoff said if Shane attacked Kane he'd cancel the match!"

    "Well, if Eric Bischoff is a man of his word, I can only assume the match is off, King."



    ***


    After the commercial we see Lillian Garcia in the ring.

    "Ladies and Gentlemen!" she proclaims. "Please welcome to the ring... the special guest of the evening... from RIGHT HERE IN COLUMBIA, NORTH CAROLINA... FAAAB-U-LOUS... MOOOOOO-LAAAAAH!"

    The fans give a warm welcome to their hometown senior citizen as THE FABULOUS MOOLAH shuffles out from the back. She waves at the fans as she climbs in to the ring and grabs a microphone... when MOLLY HOLLY’S music hits.

    The fans boo Molly interrupting Moolah before she even had a chance to say her first words to the crowd, and the Women's Champion and her associate GAIL KIM come down to the ring. Molly grabs the microphone.

    "Well look who they dragged out of the mothballs again," Molly says. "Fabulous Moolah, everybody!" Warm applause. "So good to see you here. It can only be a few weeks since you last here on Raw. And a few weeks before the time before. And the time before. And the time before. In fact, I think you're here more than I am. Why are you here, Moolah?"

    Moolah lifts the mic to speak, but is immediately cut off.

    "Actually, I don't care why you're here. I don't understand this company's obsession with you. Who even are you? What have you achieved? I'm the WWE Women's Champion, and I wasn't even booked tonight. I'm not booked for Unforgiven, either. And yet you get a chance to come out and wave."

    "I'm here," Moolah says, "because I achieved more in one year of my career than you will manage in your entire life!"

    The fans cheer as Molly and Gail exchange glances. "Bad move, Grandma," Molly says. "I am not in the mood to be spoken to like that by a washed-up hack like you."

    Molly nails Moolah with a Clothesline!

    The crowd boo the unprovoked attack on their elderly hometown hero as Gail and Molly stomp away on Moolah…


    ***OH! IT'S TIME TO ROCK 'N' ROLL!***


    The crowd come alive as TRISH STRATUS sprints down from the back as Molly and Gail turn to face her. They charge together but Trish ducks under their swinging arms and rebounds off the ropes… Flying Double Clothesline! Trish bounces to her feet and heads straight for Molly, pulling her to her feet by the hair… and signals for the Stratusfaction!

    No! Gail jumps her from behind! Trish slumps to the mat as Molly and Gail turn their attentions to Trish, stomping her down… but they haven’t noticed Moolah is back on her feet! The fans cheer as Moolah lines them up, waiting for them to turn around…

    MOOLAH NAILS THEM BOTH WITH A DOUBLE CLOTHESLINE! Down go Molly and Gail!

    Moolah starts to stomp on Gail as Trish gets to her feet, so Molly grabs her title and rolls to the outside, dragging Gail outside with her. The Women’s Champion clearly has no interest in staying for a fair fight, even if one of them is about a million years old.

    As the champ and her associate take off down the ramp, Trish bellows threats at them until Moolah pulls her to one side and whispers in her ear. Trish smiles, and grabs a microphone.

    ”You know what, ladies? Trish begins. ”Moolah’s not just a lady who can kick ass. She just had a hell of an idea. What she said was, Molly, you complained about not being booked for Unforgiven. How about we right that wrong, by having Molly Holly and Gail Kim… team up together… to face me, Trish Stratus… and The Fabulous Moolah!”

    There are some cheers from the audience, although it’s hardly off tha hook, as Tazz might say.

    Molly, her face contorting in to a look of pure, unadulterated anger, slowly starts to nod. ”You want that? she shrieks, loud enough to be picked up by the nearby camera. ’You got it!”

    Molly and Gail sulk to the back, so Trish’s music plays and the heroes in the ring share a hug, with just six days to go until they team together looking for revenge against the champ and her evil running buddy.

    We look to transition backstage…





    NO! WAIT A MINUTE! RANDY ORTON has sneaked in to the ring, and the women haven't noticed...

    RKO ON FABULOUS MOOLAH!

    Half of the crowd erupt in to vicious boos at a twenty-three-year-old man attacking a senior citizen, although some cheer the sheer audacity of it from Orton. He slides back out of the ring before Trish notices and, as when she does, it’s already far too late. Orton is back down the ramp and smirking to himself at a job well done.

    "What the hell was that?!" JR shouts. "What the hell is wrong with this young man? He just RKO'd an 80-year-old woman!"

    Trish starts waving for help as Moolah hasn’t moved. Medical personnel rush down with a stretcher, as we cut to a replay of the RKO. Unsurprisingly, the replay causes the King to burst in to fits of laughter.

    “I’m glad you can laugh at this, King,” JR snaps.

    “Of course I can, JR! It was funny!”

    ”You think that was funny? Oh, ha ha. How funny it is to see Randy Orton attack a defenceless old woman. That Randy Orton… he… what a sonuvabitch he is.”

    ”You can’t say that, JR!”

    ”Like hell I can’t, King! That kid is a sonuvabitch, well and truly. I know his daddy and I thought he’d been brought up bettah than that, but maybe I was wrong. God DAMN IT what is Randy Orton’s problem?”

    He’s the Legend Killer! It’s what he does! And it’s what he’ll do to Shawn Michaels at Unforgiven!”

    In the ring, Moolah has finally been placed on a stretcher inn a neck brace. She gets polite applause from the audience as she’s wheeled up the ramp, with Trish looking on concerned by her side.

    ”What a sad scene this is,” JR says. "And what an unnecessary one at that. And I have to asked mahself, how in tha hell is The Fabulous Moolah gonna make it to Unforgiven?”


    ***


    After the commercial, we cut backstage to where RIC FLAIR and TRIPLE H stand in their locker room.

    "Would you chill out, champ?" Flair asks to Triple H. "You've it in hand! You're the Game! The World Champ! You shouldn't be sweatin' Goldberg!"

    "Shouldn't I? Then tell me why he keeps getting the better of us?"


    RANDY ORTON then walks in, still smirking from his earlier attack.

    "Where the hell have you been?" Triple H barks.

    "Just doing what I do best," Orton grins. "Killing... legends."

    Triple H squares up to him. "You better get your head in the game, Randy. These last few weeks have been unacceptable. While you're out there attacking old women, Ric and I are talking about how to get things back on our terms again."

    "Relax, Hunter. It's all good. So Goldberg has got the better of us the last two weeks. It won't happen again tonight."

    "It better not,"
    Triple H growls. "I'm getting sick... and tired... of watching that over-rated piece of marketing keep getting one over on us. We're Evolution. The crown... jewels... in this business. I WILL NOT have him beating us every week going in to the title match this Sunday. I want him gone for good after Unforgiven. Do I make myself clear?"

    "Of course, champ,"
    Flair says. "But we've got it in hand! You're The Game! Have a little faith! 'Cos when it comes to Unforgiven-"

    "I'll tell you what will happen at Unforgiven,"
    Triple H says. "I'm going to show Goldberg a side of this business he's never seen before. He might have been a success in WCW, but here... this is my playground. And I've worked too damn hard... for too damn long... to let someone like him ruin everything I have accomplished in my career. He doesn't know how heavy the crown is, being the king of this company. But it's a weight I carry every... single... day. This company NEEDS me as its champion. NO-ONE... can do what I do... night in... night out... week in... week out. This company needs me more than it needs him. And I promise you, Ric, Randy, I will destroy him this Sunday. And it better start tonight. I am DONE... being beaten around by that man. Tonight... he finds out why Evolution is a process that simply can not be stopped."


    ***


    Thuggin’ & Buggin’ Enterprises (Rodney Mack & Mark Henry) w/Theodore Long vs. Vitamin C (Chris Jericho & Christian)

    Chris Jericho gets a sizeable pop on the way to the ring, so it seems the fans have taken to his apparent babyface turn. That only increases as he takes the fight to his monstrous opponents, dominating them in the early exchanges with his fast-paced, high-octane offence. Christian spends most of the early fight just watching, so Jericho beckons for him to join in... They whip Rodney Mack off the ropes... Double Hip Toss! Double Elbow! Double Kip Up! Well... one kip up. Christian tries, but flops back to the mat, and has to sheepishly scramble to his feet using the ropes. They knock Henry off the apron, then Double Clothesline Mack over the top... Double Crossbodies over the top rope! They dive back in and celebrate for the fans! Are we watching Vitamin C, or the Rockers?!

    When we come back from commercial, the fun has come to an end. Chris Jericho has been isolated from his partner as Henry and Mack slowly pick him apart. Christian tries to shout words of encouragement as Jericho reaches out for the tag, but T&B Enterprises are able to keep him away. Mack does the hard work in keeping Jericho away from his partner, Henry is the exclamation point, working Y2J down over time. Eventually Jericho fires back on Mack, so Henry gets in the ring... he tries the Splash in the corner... but Jericho moves and Rodney Mack takes the impact! Enziguri from Jericho! He crawls over for the tag...

    But Christian drops off the apron! Jericho stares in disbelief as his friend walks back down the aisle, leaving Jericho to fight alone!

    Y2J gingerly gets back to his feet to see he is left fighting alone against Rodney Mack and Mark Henry, just as he was last week in the Battle Royal. This time, however, T&B Enterprises don't allow him a second's rest. They're on him, beating him down over and over again.

    And yet, Jericho doesn't give up. Every time he's knocked down he fights back up. Somehow, Henry and Mack just can't put him away, and he eventually starts to fight back AGAIN. The big men stumble to the side as he punches and chops his way out, then fires back with Dropkicks. He goes to the top... Dropkick on Mack! Another Enziguri to Henry! Jericho's going to beat them on his own!

    Theodore Long, possibly nervous at the direction the match is going in, climbs in to the ring to attack... but Jericho takes him down! WALLS OF JERICHO ON THEODORE LONG! Rodney Mack grabs a steel chair from the outside and, with Long still in the Walls, smacks Jericho in the back with it.

    Winners: Vitamin C by disqualification in 7:50


    Jericho crumples to the mat in pain, having done an admirable job of fighting off three men on his own. Christian, now at the top of the ramp, watches on with a smirk as Henry and Mack take it in turns to beat Y2J down, until Mack and Long hold Jericho's arms and legs, awaiting Henry to Splash him once again, just as he had at the start of the show.

    "Don't do this!" JR shouts. "Don't you dare do this, or Chris Jericho won't even make it to Unforgiven!"

    Mark Henry bounces off the ropes...


    ***STAND BACK! THERE'S A HURRICANE COMIN' THROUGH!***


    The fans leap to their feet as HURRICANE AND ROSEY rush down from the back and in to the ring to save Chris Jericho! Hurricane meets Mack and Rosey meets Henry, and we have a wild brawl on our hands... until Theodore Long decides enough is enough and his team need to vacate the ring and fight another day.

    "Thank God for Hurricane and Rosey!" JR says.

    "Now there's a sentence I never thought I'd hear," King says.


    ***


    We cut backstage to where GOLDBERG is getting ready for the main event. In walks SHAWN MICHAELS, just as he did last week.

    "Billy!" Michaels says. "How're you doin', pal? Ready for the big fight tonight?"

    Goldberg ignores him.

    "The silent treatment again, huh? That's funny. Last time you gave me the silent treatment was last week... and yet you helped me out against Evolution anyway. I won't tell anyone... but I think you're a big softy under all that macho exterior."

    Goldberg shoots him a stare.

    "Or maybe I was wrong," Michaels quickly corrects. "But it does pose the question as to why you would help out ol' HBK even when it wasn't in your best interests. Maybe, just maybe, were you hopin' t'be friends? 'Cos, I dunno, man. You seem like an okay guy, but you're kinda intense. And you could start talkin' more, ya know-"

    "We are not friends,"
    Goldberg interrupts. "I do not care about you in any way. Last week was not for you. I did what I did because it was the right thing to do. That was it."

    Michaels feigns a pain in his heart. "Ow, Billy. That's cold. You mean t'say that you really feel nuthin' for me?"

    "Enough with the jokes, Shawn. I don't give a damn about you. As far as I'm concerned, we just have mutual enemies. And once we kick their ass tonight, we have no reason to ever speak again."


    Shawn pretends to muse it over. "Hmm... hmmm... ya raise an interesting point, Billy. Y'see, I don't care too much for you, neither. But what I do care about, and I care about very much, is kickin' Evolution's ass. And if you're in the mood for some Triple H ass kickin', y'alright by me. Let's show them who really runs this show, huh?"

    "Works for me,"
    Goldberg says, and they bump fists.


    ***


    We transition to this week’s SMACKBACK, which is of the main event of last week’s Smackdown, where Kurt Angle and The Undertaker beat Brock Lesnar and The Big Show after an errant belt shot from Brock on to his partner. This all happening just a week before Vince’s goons come together and fight against his will, and for the first time since the ring collapsed. Oh, and in that match, Stephanie McMahon will be the guest referee.


    ***


    Back in the ring, we are joined by the World Tag Team Champions LA RESISTANCE, along with their "sympathiser", ROB CONWAY, who grabs the microphone.

    "My friends here," he begins, "have been consistently discriminated against in this company from day one. Why? Because they are French. Why would you discriminate against the French? You should be proud to have such handsome Frenchmen as your champions. They come from the country of the Louvre, of croissants, of the Eiffel Tower. The French, they made our Statue of Liberty for us, because everyone knows American industry has never been all that. You should be grateful! You are blessed to have them!"

    "And yet, you boo them. Worse – they are treated as though they are sub-human by the American leaders of this company. Case in point, why do the Dudley Boys deserve a title shot? What have they done, beyond get beaten up by my friends here at every turn? No, that's not right. But still, they get a shot, and in their speciality match, no less. This... is... wrong."

    "Luckily for my friends here, they happen to be experts in Tables Matches. Don't believe me? Ask Spike Dudley."
    They all laugh. "But still, they may be a little rusty, so before they defend their titles in six days at Unforgiven, they need a warm up. So we are throwing out an open challenge to anyone who thinks they can La Resistance!"

    The fans wait to see who will answer the challenge.

    "Oh," Conway continues. "I forgot to say. This challenge is only open... to Dudley Family members! So if they are any Dudleys in the back, come on out!"

    After a few moments, a midget walks on to the stage, wearing glasses and a camouflage onesie.

    "Oh look!" Conway says, "it's TINY TIM DUDLEY!"

    The midget walks down to the ring, only to be followed a few moments later by a decrepit old man, also in oversized glasses and camouflage..

    "And it's PAPA PETE DUDLEY!" Conway shouts.

    "Where'd they find Papa Pete?" King asks. "I thought he retired years ago!"

    “Would you give me a break?”
    Jr grunts in return.

    Finally, a STUNNING, LONG-LEGGED, BIG-BOOBED BLONDE walks out on the stage to a big cheer from the red-blooded fans. She is, of course, wearing the glasses and the camouflage.

    "Who is zis?" Rene asks. "Wot do zey call 'er?"

    "Well, that depends,"
    Conway says. "They either call her 'sister', or 'wife', depending whether it's meal time or bed time!"

    La Resistance fall about the ring laughing.


    Table Match
    La Resistance w/Rob Conway vs. Tiny Tim & Papa Pete Dudley


    Papa Pete wanders aimlessly around the ring as though he doesn't know where he is. Tiny Tim rolls up his sleeves and charges at the Tag Champions, so Rene boots him in the mouth. From the outside, Rob Conway throws three tables in to the ring. They set up the first, and Sylvan Body Slams the midget through it. They set up the second, wait for the confused old man to walk towards them… 3D THROUGH THE TABLE!

    Winners: La Resistance in 0:58


    "Well, that wasn't very hard," Conway says, getting back in the ring with the beautiful woman. "I don't feel like that was much of a challenge. Let's keep going."

    The crowd turn to the entranceway, expecting to see more fake members of the Dudley clan, only to realise that Rene Dupree, the suave Frenchman that he is, is approaching the beautiful woman. He kisses her on the hand and whispers sweet French nothings in to her ear… then grabs her by the hair!

    "What in the hell is this?" JR asks. "What do they hope to achieve by this? These- these-"

    Suddenly, the DUDLEY BOYS burst through the curtain and to the woman's aid. The Tag Champs and Conway rush to the outside, clearly not interested in an actual fight tonight.

    "You want a table match?" Bubba shouts. "Then get your stinkin' French asses in the ring and we'll have one right now!"

    Bubba and D-Von lean over the ropes, beckoning the champs back in to the ring... LOW BLOW FROM THE WOMAN! Both the Dudleys go down!

    La Resistance burst out laughing, having clearly orchestrated this whole thing from the start. They get in the ring, ready to pick the bones... BUT THE DUDLEY BOYS GET UP! The woman immediately sprints out of the ring and to safety, but La Resistance can only stare in shock as the Dudleys rise to their feet... and fire off on the champions! Rob Conway sprints down the aisle in fear as the Dudleys beat the hell out of the champions, and throw them both out of the ring! La Resistance scurry down the ramp, terrified by what they just saw.

    “Scolded dawgs, tha lotta them!” JR bellows. “Their grand plan backfired and they high-tailed outta there! But La Resistance will get theirs at Unforgiven, and it’s gonna be tha Dudley Boys that give it to ‘em!”


    ***


    "BISCHOFF!" comes the roar, as Kane storms in to shot backstage. He's destroying the backstage area as he looks for the Co-GM, with backstage personnel fleeing at the mere sight of him.

    He finally reaches Bischoff's office and kicks the door straight off the hinges. Bischoff panics as Kane rushes over, grabs him by the throat and pins him to the wall.

    "IS... MY MATCH... WITH SHANE... CANCELLED?"

    "Well... Kane..." Bischoff struggles under the vice-like grip of the monster. "I warned Shane. I told him if he attacked you the match was off, and he did it anyway-"

    "IS... MY MATCH... WITH SHANE... CANCELLED?"

    Bischoff reluctantly nods.

    "HAVE YOU NOT SEEN WHAT I'M CAPABLE OF? DO YOU NOT KNOW WHAT I WILL DO TO YOU IF I DON'T GET WHAT I WANT?"

    "But-"

    "I WANT... SHANE MCMAHON... AT UNFORGIVEN... THIS SUNDAY." He presses closer to Bischoff's face, and Eric closes his eyes and tightens up. "Do..." Kane whispers, "I have... my match?"

    Bischoff nods. "Yes, yes, Kane, of course. I'm sorry. I was just-"

    Kane launches Bischoff across his office. He turns around...

    ... where SHANE MCMAHON NAILS HIM WITH A STEEL CHAIR AGAIN! Shane fires off punches on Kane as he staggers around Bischoff's office, and hits the corridor to try and get away. Shane chases him, so Kane hits him with an Uppercut and tosses him down the hallway. Kane must have taken half a dozen chairshots and countless punches tonight, and still Shane is no match for him. He meets him with another Uppercut... and another... until they stumble in to the parking lot.

    Kane throws another punch, but Shane ducks and jumps on his back! He tries to strangle the life out of him as Kane carries them around... only for Kane to whip Shane over his shoulder and splats him on to the hood of a car. A couple of security personnel try to plead for Kane to calm down so he punches them away, then grabs Shane from the car... and LAUNCHES HIM THROUGH THE WINDSHIELD!

    "Good God almighty!" JR shouts, while Kane cackles with laughter. "Good God, what has Kane done?"

    "Shane started it, JR-"

    "I don't give a damn, King! Once again Kane has gone too far! How in the hell is Shane meant to get to Unforgiven?"



    ***


    Stevie Richards vs. Scott Steiner

    With a huge match ahead of him at Unforgiven, Scott Steiner attacks this one with a sense of urgency you wouldn't think possible from a man now made up of 90% synthetic material. Richards tries to get in to the match but never really gets a grip on it, and Steiner gets the submission victory with the Steiner Recliner.

    Winner: Scott Steiner in 2:22


    As Steiner poses for the fans in the middle of the ring, he doesn't see TEST, his opponent at Unforgiven, tiptoe down the aisle... Test gets in to the ring and prepares for the Big Boot... charges... Steiner catches him! Leg Capture Release Suplex! Test goes down!

    Test slithers out of the ring and dashes to STACY KEIBLER, who had been watching the whole thing from the top of the ramp and who can't hide the grin from her face. Meanwhile, Steiner drops to the mat for a few push-ups, and flexes his 'ceps for the fans.


    ***


    "Well, folks," JR begins, "it looks like all the momentum is on the side of Scott Steiner goin' in to his huge match with Test. That match is at Unforgiven and is in just six days time."


    A graphic for Test vs. Steiner appears on the screen.

    "And this one has all kinds of stipulations, JR," King adds. "If Steiner wins, Stacy is freed from her contract with Test. But if Test wins, Steiner becomes Test's servant!"


    The graphic changes to Chris Jericho vs. Christian for the Intercontinental Title.

    "That's not the only personal match we have on the card," JR says. "Also at Unforgiven we will see Christian defend his Intercontinental Title against his former friend, Chris Jericho."

    "You don't know they're former friends, JR! This is probably just a blip. I'm sure they'll be fine!"

    "Well, Christian left Y2J out there high 'n' dry with Rodney Mack and Mark Henry earlier tonight, so I'm not sure there's much friendship left in that one."



    The graphic moves on to Shane McMahon vs. Kane, Last Man Standing.

    "Two men who won't ever be friends are Kane and Shane McMahon. This intensely personal rivalry has been going on for months, and will come to a head at Unforgiven in a Last Man Standing Match."

    "'Intensely personal'?"
    King screeches. "Kane Tombstoned Shane's mom! And Shane kicked Kane in a burning dumpster!"

    "And let's not forget, Kane threw Shane through a car windshield earlier tonight. God only knows what shape Shane O'Mac will be in."



    The graphic moves on to the Dudleys vs. La Resistance in a Table Match.

    "And if you thought Last Man Standing would be hellacious, we've also got the Dudley Boys and La Resistance facin' off for the World Tag Team Titles in the Dudleys speciality – a Tables Match."

    "I'm not fan of the Inbred Boys, JR, but I hope they kick those Frenchies' butts!"

    "And I have no doubt Bubba Ray and D-Von want just the same after the champions' treatment of their little brother Spike."



    The graphic changes to Molly Holly & Gail Kim vs. Trish Stratus & Fabulous Moolah.

    "This one just added tonight-"

    “Divas, JR!”

    “Divas indeed, King. Trish Stratus has single-handedly been left to fight off Molly Holly and Gail Kim for weeks now, and tonight, it looked like she may have some help from the legendary Fabulous Moolah. But after Randy Orton’s heinous attack earlier tonight, how will Moolah possibly be able to compete?”

    “She can’t! You said Trish has been fightin’ alone, so she better be used to it by now, ‘cos this Sunday, she’ll be fightin’ on her own again!”



    Shawn Michaels vs. Randy Orton appears on the screen.

    "And what a huge match this'll be. The legendary Shawn Michaels, after months of torment, finally gets his hands on the cocky youngster, Randy Orton."

    "It's Legend vs. Legend Killer! And that's exactly what we will see at Unforgiven: the legend of Shawn Michaels being killed at the hands of Randy Orton."



    The graphic changes one final time to Goldberg vs. Triple H.

    "And the big one," JR says. "It's Title versus Career, The Game, Triple H, versus The Man, The Myth, The Legend, Goldberg."

    "That's exactly what Goldberg is, JR, a myth. And at Unforgiven we will see Triple H prove that once and for all and keep his title."

    "And if that happens that'll be it for Goldberg's career. Triple H has been the champion for nine months. He's held it for eleven of the last twelve months. But from where I sit, it looks like we finally have a challenger who can dethrone The Game."

    "God, I hope not."

    "All of that coming to you LIVE... this Sunday... at WWE Unforgiven.



    ***


    Randy Orton & Triple H w/Ric Flair vs. Goldberg & Shawn Michaels

    Earlier tonight, Goldberg and Shawn Michaels showed signs that maybe, just maybe, they would be able to get along, and they use that in the early stages to get the better of their opponents. But as time progresses, Triple H and Randy Orton's experience of working together comes in to the fold, and they are able to keep Shawn Michaels stuck in their corner, with Goldberg pacing up and down the apron.

    The Evolution members take their time to pick Michaels apart, with even Ric Flair getting in the occasional shot from the outside. Helmsley uses all his experience to keep Earl Hebner distracted and confused by their schemes, leaving Michaels with few openings to get Goldberg in to the match. Randy Orton gets an Abdominal Stretch on Michaels, and uses Triple H's outstretched arm to work together and illegally add even more suffering to HBK. They pull, and pull, and pull, when Hebner notices what they're doing... and kicks their legs apart! Hiptoss from Michaels! He crawls to the corner... and makes the tag!

    Goldberg rushes in to the ring and fires off Clothesline after Clothesline on Evolution, with even Flair getting in to the ring to take one. Goldberg lifts Flair off the mat… and Press Slams him in to Orton and Triple H! Triple H stumbles on to the ropes, so Goldberg Clotheslines him out. The Game staggers around on the outside as Goldberg backs up... SPEAR TO ORTON! Tag to Michaels... and he's tuning up the band!

    Triple H shakes the cobwebs clear and starts to get in the ring... but freezes. He looks at Goldberg, poised to attack, and Michaels tuning up the band... and slides back out of the ring again! Michaels...

    SWEET CHIN MUSIC ON ORTON...

    ... IN TO ANOTHER SPEAR FROM GOLDBERG!

    Michaels to the top... ELBOW DROP!

    Michaels makes the cover...

    ONE...

    TWO...

    THREE!

    Winners: Goldberg & Shawn Michaels in 10:43


    Earl Hebner raises Michaels and Goldberg's arms in victory as the crowd cheer. Randy Orton is little else but an unconscious heap on the floor as Triple H watches on from the ramp, yet again having been outdone by Goldberg.

    "Triple H is runnin' like a scolded dog yet again!" JR shouts. "Goldberg once again gets the better of Evolution, and Triple H has no answer for it! Are we goin' t'see a new World Heavyweight Champion in six days time? We will see you at Unforgiven, and you DO NOT want to miss this one!"


    * END OF SHOW *


    ***


    Confirmed matches for WWE Unforgiven

    Title vs. Career: World Heavyweight Title Match
    Triple H (c) vs. Goldberg

    Legend Killer vs. Legend
    Randy Orton vs. Shawn Michaels

    Last Man Standing Match
    Kane vs. Shane McMahon

    WWE Intercontinental Title Match
    Christian (c) vs. Chris Jericho

    Tables Match for the World Tag Team Titles
    La Resistance (c) vs. Dudley Boys

    Tag Team Match
    Gail Kim & Molly Holly vs. Fabulous Moolah & Trish Stratus

    If Steiner Wins, Stacy Is Free, If Test Wins, Steiner Works For Him
    Test vs. Scott Steiner


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    Re: WWE: Where It All Begins... Again

    I got the impression we might be seeing T&B Enterprises a lot more after their showing last week. And I’m a huge fan of Teddy Long as a manager, so I’m all for this team getting the push. Them starting the show - to me - is another big signal of intent that the group is going to be playing a bigger role on Raw.


    Your writing of Long was absolutely spot on, and the group feeling they’ve been wronged due to skin colour was typical of Long in this period. ‘Haterising’ lol.


    Chris Jerichos promo came across as very witty and not at all forced, which is obviously a good thing. The Christian run in to save Jericho was nice too, as we all know Christian, being the creepy little bastard he is, is doing it only for his own benefit. Enjoyable opening segment, and it’s set up an intriguing tag match later in the show to look forward to.


    Glad Flair didn’t job out to Maven. There’s still some upside to the Tough Enough winner if you did want to build him, but I’m glad it’s not happening at the expense of the Naitch. That’s something that could be a much bigger deal later down the road. For now, the best thing about Maven is still his music. I appreciated the low blow after the match from Flair a lot more, thanks to you explaining where you were coming from with Evolution last week, and the JR stuff really helped sell it after the initial respect from Flair.


    Christian and Jericho’s dynamic is a lot of fun to read. Just silly things like Christian “accidentally“ hitting Jericho on the bad shoulder is great, because you just know he knows exactly what he’s doing. I’m not sure if I misinterpreted what Christian was saying, but when he says;


    “now that you've mentioned it, you do raise an interesting point. This title is getting in the way of our friendship lately. And I did risk my own health to save you earlier on, and-"


    It’s coming after he actually mentioned the belt coming between them first. I’m hoping it’s just another part of Christian playing off his own insecurities and claiming it was Jericho that suggested it first, even though it was him.


    Poor Terri. I understand the motivation from Eric, wanting everything to stick for Unforgiven, taking no chances, but I found Shane’s actions rather head scratching. Having been told his match with Kane would be off if he went into the arena and attacked him, Shane went and did it anyway. Pretty cowardly thing to do imo. I’d thought that with the wording Bischoff used, Shane would be able to one up the GM by attacking Kane backstage instead. It lead to a fine piece of intimidation from Kane later, and the windshield spot was great, but I just didn’t get the logic here.


    On another note, even though he was merely collateral damage, the description of Goldusts reactions after the match did not go unnoticed. Here’s hoping there’s some development with the Bizarre One soon, as he’s still got plenty to offer. The wet Kleenex line was brilliant too.


    Eh, I didn’t care a whole lot for any of the Moolah stuff. You’re in a bit of a bind at the minute with a women’s division that’s weaker than water, so I guess this is at least something newsworthy, and I found Mollys promo rather fun. Old people bashing is something I always get a kick out of lol. Given that the women on Smackdown weren’t even mentioned on that roster page, are you considering at all bringing Torrie et al over to Raw? Sure, the matches will stick be sucky, but Torrie was over as hell in this era.


    I’m fine with the mirroring of the real life spot with Orton adding another legend to his list, and I’d hope Moolah doesn’t make the miraculous recovery for Unforgiven, in order to sell the RKO. Hopefully it ends up leading to a Lita or someone (anyone) replacing her at the last minute.


    Good promo from Triple H with Evolution. My only gripe with the build up toward the match at Unforgiven is the lack of focus on the possibility of Goldberg having to retire. I know you’re purposely focusing on the story being on how Triple H can possibly survive against the all conquering Goldberg, but I’d have liked some more attention on the possibility of Triple H surviving meaning no more Goldberg and the potential ramifications of that.


    Christian walking out on Jericho is a fine storytelling device, and definitely sets the stage for Unforgiven without any question of where the Vitamin C friendship is now. Being overly fussy, I can’t help but think Jericho should’ve half expected this, having seen Christian try to talk him out of taking his title shot. Not a big issue, just a nagging feeling I had reading the show, but overall the walkout angle is one that always works, and gets you where you want to go.


    The Goldberg/Shawn interaction was enjoyable again on this show. I think you’ve hit upon a really fun dynamic between them, and I hope this develops further in time, potentially if they feud over the belt in the future. This could be the seeds being planted.


    Thought you added a lot more heat and interest to the tag title feud over the last two weeks. The attacks last week and the mocking introduction of the extended Dudley family helped this feud stand out as something memorable. I remember Edge and Christian pulling off a similar angle with the Dudleys and that was a bunch of fun too. The introduction of a valet potentially for La Resistance here too I suspect as she played a big part in them getting the better of the post “match” brawl. The incest line cracked me up too, lol.


    Best part of the Steiner match was your description of him being 90% synthetic. You’ve had your hands tied with this feud, but I expect you’ll bring it to a very clear conclusion at the PPV, and move everyone on.


    Nice run down of the Unforgiven card, and for the most part, you should be commended as you’ve made this a much more interesting card than real life in just a few short weeks.


    A splendid main event to gear up for Unforgiven. Obviously HBK should be the face in peril for Goldberg to run wild off the hot tag. Triple H showing total trepidation was great, selling his fear of Goldberg, leaving Orton to take the fall told the whole story going into Unforgiven perfectly for me. Goldberg looks totally unstoppable, and I suspect he’ll steamroller Triple H in impressive fashion at the show.

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    Re: WWE: Where It All Begins... Again

    I’ve always loved Teddy and co and made a pretty awful attempt at pushing them during a 2004 BTB back in the day. As Wolfy mentioned, them being given the opening slot makes them feel like quite a big deal, and if they are an integral part of things moving forward, then I am a happy man. Teddy’s racism calls are standard and Jericho interrupting to I guess ‘protect’ his title shot makes sense. We get some standard Jericho stuff here which is always fun, and the attack leads to Christian making the save. It all makes sense and works and is actually quite a fun opening to the show. Really good stuff.

    I know I am in the minority here but I always thought Maven could have been a solid addition to the roster. I think he gets a little more hate than he deserves. Anyway, Flair gets the win which is fine, but what was more fun was the aftermath. Standard Flair and the kick to the groin made me chuckle. I thought you put over the idea of Maven being the inexperienced youth quite well. Interested to see if this inspires Maven to continue to annoy Evolution, or whether this was the push back down to fodder.

    Unforgiven should be a fun read. A PPV with plenty to fix, looking forward to seeing what sort of detail you provide us with as well.

    Christian being the slimy bastard that he is always has an angle, and it’s pretty clear that is why he helped Jericho earlier. The way he tried to talk around it but still get to the point of Jericho not taking the title shot was fantastic, as was Jericho quickly shooting him down. Christian is openly admitting the title is coming between them, so when he turns, it’s pretty much self explanatory. A very good progressing segment here though.

    Eric Bischoff came across as perfectly as the douche that he is here, threatening Terri and then not showing fear of Vince because Vince is on his side in this one. Entertaining stuff and Shane O Mac being banned from ringside means Kane will be doing some squashing later tonight.

    Kane squashes Goldust and then beats the shit out of Shane McMahon as well, despite the chair shot attack from behind. Terrific stuff. I LOVE this because this IS how Kane should have been booked after he lost the mask. Great stuff can’t wait to see him slaughter Shane at Unforgiven.

    Didn’t really care for the initial Fabulous Moolah appearance, however I thought Molly’s run down of her was quite good. The attack followed by Trish and the match being made was all solid enough, and I’m glad you’re getting the Women’s Champion on the PPV. With that being said, this really was all about Orton. ‘The Legend Killer’ strikes again and surely Moolah won’t be at the PPV. I smell a mystery partner for Trish. Still, a good overall moment here with Orton making an impact.

    The Triple H/Orton tension is still kind of there from the other week which I wasn’t a huge fan of due to how strongly it came across the other week, I thought this was much better. Just a quick one line and then we moved on with the rest of the segment. Trips being worried and wanting to get on top of The Berg makes sense as well. Nice segment here to set the scene.

    Tag match went pretty much as expected based off earlier in the night, putting over Christian and Jericho as a great team, before Christian bails. One of your good moves so far is the booking of Jericho as a face, putting him over really well. That continued here as he fought back and then got attacked afterwards. Christian watching on puts over just how much of a dick he is. Hurricane and Rosey making the save was fine enough, it suits their super hero gimmick. Were they feuding with Long’s boys at this point, or was this random? Either way, it works. Good booking all around here.

    Goldberg/Shawn Michaels interaction was pretty good. The chemistry you’ve built between them over the past couple of weeks has been enjoyable. Shawn joking around again only for The Berg to be ultra serious worked. I could have done without the fist bump though, just show Goldberg as a clear, independent character.

    I never really got behind La Resistance but this was great. Standard for this time period with the midgets coming out, and the line about meal time and bed time was sensational.

    Obviously the Frenchmen were dominating this match and smart to make it a Tables match as well. Aftermath with the swerve with the low blow, only for Dudleyz to still be ready to go sets the scene perfectly for Unforgiven. This plus Spike and La Resistance have all the heat in the world, good stuff.

    More Kane/Shane awesomeness here. Much like the earlier segment, loving the fact that Kane is looking unbeatable here. These changes to this build holds Kane in good stead for this feud and moving forward. Awesome. Also, enjoyed Bischoff cowering.

    Simple Steiner/Test build here with a quick squash and the failed attack. No real comments to add, solid feud for an angle that I’d assume has just about run its course.

    Nice bit of hype for Unforgiven. These little PPV hype segments have always been severely underrated in my opinion. This one was written very well.

    A pretty good main event to end the show as well. Two matches for the PPV getting hype, and everybody had the correct role in the match. Flair on the outside would have been great, Shawn had to be isolated and the unstoppable Goldberg cleans house. All awesome stuff as far as I’m concerned and the win has The Berg and Shawn looking great heading into Unforgiven. Good stuff.

    I think this is the first piece of feedback I’ve dropped for Raw, but much like Smackdown, I really enjoyed it. This was probably my favourite Raw so far. The booking of Goldberg and Kane stand out like a sore thumb at the moment, very good stuff. Keep up the fantastic work.








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    Re: WWE: Where It All Begins... Again

    Another good show.

    The interactions between HBK and Goldberg the past couple of Raw's have been enjoyable, particularly on HBK's part. So easy to envisage him saying the exact things you have written for him.

    I liked the Moolah stuff enough. Orton coming FROM OUTTA NOWHERE to hit an RKO on her was good, and a reminder of when WWE actually had a bit of edge to it.

    As Wolf Beast said, Shane attacking Kane was a little odd, perhaps, though that can easily be explained when we next hear properly from Shane'O, so it's easy enough to wait and see how that gets explained away.

    I felt like the Christian turn on Jericho was obviously going to happen, though that isn't necessarily a bad thing. With all the twists and turns you have in this industry, it does pay to have something happen occasionally that looks like it was going to happen, rather than everything being totally from left-field for the sake of it.

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    Re: WWE: Where It All Begins... Again

    Those introductory posts were hilarious. I guess 2001-2003 WWE really was a shit-show.

    I'm really excited to see the careers of guys like Cena, Edge, Mysterio develop under you. I certainly hope Eddie wins the World Title here too, and a full main event RVD run would be very fun to see.

    Will be paying close attention!


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    Quote Originally Posted by ranthellacious View Post
    Smackdown time!!!!!!



    Two big matches announced!! Awesome to see you pitting the two massive forces against each other next week with a shot at the gold on the line. And the tag match tonight sounds awesome.

    Opening credits brings back so many memories haha.

    FUCKING GREAT Cena rap. Had me laughing out loud.

    Awesome opening contest between Benoit and Cena. The interference was perfect, as was the set up for the championship match right after. Liking this makeshift team of Cena, A-Train and Rhyno.

    Awww yeah. Can feel the tension between Brock and Big Show. I feel like the tag match is going to go badly and then the two men will just destroy eachother in the match next week.

    Pretty awesome that you are building up the Bashams.

    MATTITUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Man, you wrote him perfectly in this segment. Him pinning Gowan and making Moore count the pin was exactly something I could see him doing.

    Huge victory for Kidman and Mysterio. Wonder where it will lead, picking up a big victory of the tag team champions would make you assume a championship match...but with Tajiri around, I'm not quite sure.

    Oh man...Taker and Angle aren't on the same page..Show and Lesnar aren't on the same page. Tonight is gonna be chaos.

    Good squash victory for Tajiri.

    Brock and Show surrounding Steph was definitely something that woulda happened.

    Great match. Big win for Angle and Taker, but the right team won. They have to have another match soon, and I can't wait. Brock accidentally striking Show with the belt was awesome, and definitely added to what is sure to be a ruthless match next week.

    Speaking of, one hell of a card for next weeks Smackdown!!

    Man, you continue to impress. Everything feels like it’s straight from that time period and everyone sounds and feels like they should. Raw was good, but Smackdown was great. Can't wait for next week!
    On the Bashams: Yeah I don’t love the Bashams, but they can have some value if they’re treated right. When I first went through the roster I saw them and said to myself “that gimmick has got to go”. And given I’m a huge fan of the likes of Midnight Express and Brainbusters, who were no nonsense pick-you-apart-types, the Bashams feel like the closest thing we can get to that.

    On Kidman, Mysterio and the Tag Titles: I like that there’s a little confusion there. Like I said in a reply before, it’s a bugbear of mine when people only feud with the people they feud with and don’t have any other goals or desires. I’m trying to blend lines a little bit, so you have things like Mysterio as Cruiserweight Champion but helping out Kidman, or Show and Brock not liking each other due to history but aligned under Vince’s rule.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf Beast View Post
    I got the impression we might be seeing T&B Enterprises a lot more after their showing last week. And I’m a huge fan of Teddy Long as a manager, so I’m all for this team getting the push. Them starting the show - to me - is another big signal of intent that the group is going to be playing a bigger role on Raw.


    Your writing of Long was absolutely spot on, and the group feeling they’ve been wronged due to skin colour was typical of Long in this period. ‘Haterising’ lol.


    Chris Jerichos promo came across as very witty and not at all forced, which is obviously a good thing. The Christian run in to save Jericho was nice too, as we all know Christian, being the creepy little bastard he is, is doing it only for his own benefit. Enjoyable opening segment, and it’s set up an intriguing tag match later in the show to look forward to.


    Glad Flair didn’t job out to Maven. There’s still some upside to the Tough Enough winner if you did want to build him, but I’m glad it’s not happening at the expense of the Naitch. That’s something that could be a much bigger deal later down the road. For now, the best thing about Maven is still his music. I appreciated the low blow after the match from Flair a lot more, thanks to you explaining where you were coming from with Evolution last week, and the JR stuff really helped sell it after the initial respect from Flair.


    Christian and Jericho’s dynamic is a lot of fun to read. Just silly things like Christian “accidentally“ hitting Jericho on the bad shoulder is great, because you just know he knows exactly what he’s doing. I’m not sure if I misinterpreted what Christian was saying, but when he says;


    “now that you've mentioned it, you do raise an interesting point. This title is getting in the way of our friendship lately. And I did risk my own health to save you earlier on, and-"


    It’s coming after he actually mentioned the belt coming between them first. I’m hoping it’s just another part of Christian playing off his own insecurities and claiming it was Jericho that suggested it first, even though it was him.


    Poor Terri. I understand the motivation from Eric, wanting everything to stick for Unforgiven, taking no chances, but I found Shane’s actions rather head scratching. Having been told his match with Kane would be off if he went into the arena and attacked him, Shane went and did it anyway. Pretty cowardly thing to do imo. I’d thought that with the wording Bischoff used, Shane would be able to one up the GM by attacking Kane backstage instead. It lead to a fine piece of intimidation from Kane later, and the windshield spot was great, but I just didn’t get the logic here.


    On another note, even though he was merely collateral damage, the description of Goldusts reactions after the match did not go unnoticed. Here’s hoping there’s some development with the Bizarre One soon, as he’s still got plenty to offer. The wet Kleenex line was brilliant too.


    Eh, I didn’t care a whole lot for any of the Moolah stuff. You’re in a bit of a bind at the minute with a women’s division that’s weaker than water, so I guess this is at least something newsworthy, and I found Mollys promo rather fun. Old people bashing is something I always get a kick out of lol. Given that the women on Smackdown weren’t even mentioned on that roster page, are you considering at all bringing Torrie et al over to Raw? Sure, the matches will stick be sucky, but Torrie was over as hell in this era.


    I’m fine with the mirroring of the real life spot with Orton adding another legend to his list, and I’d hope Moolah doesn’t make the miraculous recovery for Unforgiven, in order to sell the RKO. Hopefully it ends up leading to a Lita or someone (anyone) replacing her at the last minute.


    Good promo from Triple H with Evolution. My only gripe with the build up toward the match at Unforgiven is the lack of focus on the possibility of Goldberg having to retire. I know you’re purposely focusing on the story being on how Triple H can possibly survive against the all-conquering Goldberg, but I’d have liked some more attention on the possibility of Triple H surviving meaning no more Goldberg and the potential ramifications of that.


    Christian walking out on Jericho is a fine storytelling device, and definitely sets the stage for Unforgiven without any question of where the Vitamin C friendship is now. Being overly fussy, I can’t help but think Jericho should’ve half expected this, having seen Christian try to talk him out of taking his title shot. Not a big issue, just a nagging feeling I had reading the show, but overall the walkout angle is one that always works, and gets you where you want to go.


    The Goldberg/Shawn interaction was enjoyable again on this show. I think you’ve hit upon a really fun dynamic between them, and I hope this develops further in time, potentially if they feud over the belt in the future. This could be the seeds being planted.


    Thought you added a lot more heat and interest to the tag title feud over the last two weeks. The attacks last week and the mocking introduction of the extended Dudley family helped this feud stand out as something memorable. I remember Edge and Christian pulling off a similar angle with the Dudleys and that was a bunch of fun too. The introduction of a valet potentially for La Resistance here too I suspect as she played a big part in them getting the better of the post “match” brawl. The incest line cracked me up too, lol.


    Best part of the Steiner match was your description of him being 90% synthetic. You’ve had your hands tied with this feud, but I expect you’ll bring it to a very clear conclusion at the PPV, and move everyone on.


    Nice run down of the Unforgiven card, and for the most part, you should be commended as you’ve made this a much more interesting card than real life in just a few short weeks.


    A splendid main event to gear up for Unforgiven. Obviously HBK should be the face in peril for Goldberg to run wild off the hot tag. Triple H showing total trepidation was great, selling his fear of Goldberg, leaving Orton to take the fall told the whole story going into Unforgiven perfectly for me. Goldberg looks totally unstoppable, and I suspect he’ll steamroller Triple H in impressive fashion at the show.
    On Christian and Jericho: You read that situation absolutely correctly. Christian’s such a weaselly little bastard that he brings something up, then pretends the other person did. Christian from 2004 – 2010 is actually one of my all-time favourites, and he’s one of the gradual builds I want (as opposed to say, Orton, who is obviously getting a more obvious push up the card). I’ve got an idea I absolutely love for Christian over the next six months and am kind of excited about getting to it (if I get to it).

    And then in the tag match, you’re right that in theory Jericho perhaps should have seen it coming. But I’d put it down to not thinking his best friend would actually pull a stunt like that. Even though there has clearly been tension between them, I think Jericho thinks Christian is better than something like that when it comes to his friends. Which, as we all know, he’s absolutely not.

    On Shane: I’ll touch on this in response to Sebsy.

    On Goldust: Glad you picked up on it. Watch this space. I try to be one of those “everything matters” types, although not always successfully!

    On Goldberg’s retirement: Fair point. I’ve had subtle jabs at it from HHH, talking about getting Goldberg out of the picture, but I haven’t directly referenced it and built a sense of anxiety about whether this is the end of Goldberg. I guess that’s not really the angle I’m going for. He’s not a “show weakness” type, so the build to me has been “how can HHH overcome this force of nature and get him out of the company?” rather than “can Goldberg save his job?” But you raise a good point.


    Quote Originally Posted by Stojy View Post
    I’ve always loved Teddy and co and made a pretty awful attempt at pushing them during a 2004 BTB back in the day. As Wolfy mentioned, them being given the opening slot makes them feel like quite a big deal, and if they are an integral part of things moving forward, then I am a happy man. Teddy’s racism calls are standard and Jericho interrupting to I guess ‘protect’ his title shot makes sense. We get some standard Jericho stuff here which is always fun, and the attack leads to Christian making the save. It all makes sense and works and is actually quite a fun opening to the show. Really good stuff.

    I know I am in the minority here but I always thought Maven could have been a solid addition to the roster. I think he gets a little more hate than he deserves. Anyway, Flair gets the win which is fine, but what was more fun was the aftermath. Standard Flair and the kick to the groin made me chuckle. I thought you put over the idea of Maven being the inexperienced youth quite well. Interested to see if this inspires Maven to continue to annoy Evolution, or whether this was the push back down to fodder.

    Unforgiven should be a fun read. A PPV with plenty to fix, looking forward to seeing what sort of detail you provide us with as well.

    Christian being the slimy bastard that he is always has an angle, and it’s pretty clear that is why he helped Jericho earlier. The way he tried to talk around it but still get to the point of Jericho not taking the title shot was fantastic, as was Jericho quickly shooting him down. Christian is openly admitting the title is coming between them, so when he turns, it’s pretty much self explanatory. A very good progressing segment here though.

    Eric Bischoff came across as perfectly as the douche that he is here, threatening Terri and then not showing fear of Vince because Vince is on his side in this one. Entertaining stuff and Shane O Mac being banned from ringside means Kane will be doing some squashing later tonight.

    Kane squashes Goldust and then beats the shit out of Shane McMahon as well, despite the chair shot attack from behind. Terrific stuff. I LOVE this because this IS how Kane should have been booked after he lost the mask. Great stuff can’t wait to see him slaughter Shane at Unforgiven.

    Didn’t really care for the initial Fabulous Moolah appearance, however I thought Molly’s run down of her was quite good. The attack followed by Trish and the match being made was all solid enough, and I’m glad you’re getting the Women’s Champion on the PPV. With that being said, this really was all about Orton. ‘The Legend Killer’ strikes again and surely Moolah won’t be at the PPV. I smell a mystery partner for Trish. Still, a good overall moment here with Orton making an impact.

    The Triple H/Orton tension is still kind of there from the other week which I wasn’t a huge fan of due to how strongly it came across the other week, I thought this was much better. Just a quick one line and then we moved on with the rest of the segment. Trips being worried and wanting to get on top of The Berg makes sense as well. Nice segment here to set the scene.

    Tag match went pretty much as expected based off earlier in the night, putting over Christian and Jericho as a great team, before Christian bails. One of your good moves so far is the booking of Jericho as a face, putting him over really well. That continued here as he fought back and then got attacked afterwards. Christian watching on puts over just how much of a dick he is. Hurricane and Rosey making the save was fine enough, it suits their super hero gimmick. Were they feuding with Long’s boys at this point, or was this random? Either way, it works. Good booking all around here.

    Goldberg/Shawn Michaels interaction was pretty good. The chemistry you’ve built between them over the past couple of weeks has been enjoyable. Shawn joking around again only for The Berg to be ultra serious worked. I could have done without the fist bump though, just show Goldberg as a clear, independent character.

    I never really got behind La Resistance but this was great. Standard for this time period with the midgets coming out, and the line about meal time and bed time was sensational.

    Obviously the Frenchmen were dominating this match and smart to make it a Tables match as well. Aftermath with the swerve with the low blow, only for Dudleyz to still be ready to go sets the scene perfectly for Unforgiven. This plus Spike and La Resistance have all the heat in the world, good stuff.

    More Kane/Shane awesomeness here. Much like the earlier segment, loving the fact that Kane is looking unbeatable here. These changes to this build holds Kane in good stead for this feud and moving forward. Awesome. Also, enjoyed Bischoff cowering.

    Simple Steiner/Test build here with a quick squash and the failed attack. No real comments to add, solid feud for an angle that I’d assume has just about run its course.

    Nice bit of hype for Unforgiven. These little PPV hype segments have always been severely underrated in my opinion. This one was written very well.

    A pretty good main event to end the show as well. Two matches for the PPV getting hype, and everybody had the correct role in the match. Flair on the outside would have been great, Shawn had to be isolated and the unstoppable Goldberg cleans house. All awesome stuff as far as I’m concerned and the win has The Berg and Shawn looking great heading into Unforgiven. Good stuff.

    I think this is the first piece of feedback I’ve dropped for Raw, but much like Smackdown, I really enjoyed it. This was probably my favourite Raw so far. The booking of Goldberg and Kane stand out like a sore thumb at the moment, very good stuff. Keep up the fantastic work.
    On Thuggin’ and Buggin’: I’m glad the opening segment seemed to go down well. As I’ve mentioned before, I’ve wanted to add a sense of unpredictability to the show, so you don’t turn on for the start and see HHH walking down to the ring for another 20 minute promo. I loved the idea of having someone like Theodore Long kick the show off simply because, if I’d have been watching at the time, it would have caught my curiosity.

    On Maven: I think he has potential too. I liked him, and not just because of his awesome theme music. He still needs a bit of a leg up, though, and time to grow. In real life he’d been added as Shawn’s protégé teaming with him and Goldberg against Evolution, and it just felt a bit much for me. So I decided to pay off that little rivalry but give him a good showing against Flair to continue the very gradual build up he’s going to get.

    On Kane: As you know from my WCW thread, I love me a monster heel. Kane no selling a load of chair shots and then throwing him through a window is the sort of character I can get behind, not one who cowers in fear from Shane friggin’ McMahon.

    On Hurricane and Rosey: They weren’t in a feud with Long, no. I’m looking to emphasis the vigilante side to their gimmick, rather than make them wrestlers in costumes. So they see something they don’t think is right and try to save the day. I’ll touch a little more on that during Unforgiven, actually.


    Quote Originally Posted by sebsy View Post
    Another good show.

    The interactions between HBK and Goldberg the past couple of Raw's have been enjoyable, particularly on HBK's part. So easy to envisage him saying the exact things you have written for him.

    I liked the Moolah stuff enough. Orton coming FROM OUTTA NOWHERE to hit an RKO on her was good, and a reminder of when WWE actually had a bit of edge to it.

    As Wolf Beast said, Shane attacking Kane was a little odd, perhaps, though that can easily be explained when we next hear properly from Shane'O, so it's easy enough to wait and see how that gets explained away.

    I felt like the Christian turn on Jericho was obviously going to happen, though that isn't necessarily a bad thing. With all the twists and turns you have in this industry, it does pay to have something happen occasionally that looks like it was going to happen, rather than everything being totally from left-field for the sake of it.
    On Shane attacking Kane: (This is in response to you and to Wolfy) You know, I hadn’t considered that this attack could come off as cowardly, and it’s an interesting read. My intention (and of course, I can see why that wouldn’t come across or wasn’t made explicit enough) was that Shane doesn’t care what Bischoff thinks. They had a match like 3 weeks ago. And he never really wanted a match with Kane anyway, it was Bischoff who forced them in to a match to try and contain their constant fighting.

    So the intention was Shane was actually rebelling against Bischoff. “You’re telling me my match will be cancelled if I go after him again? Fine, cancel my match, I’m going after him again anyway.” After all, this guy Tombstoned his mother on the stage. Why would he want to wait until an officially sanctioned match? Especially when, every time they fight fairly, Shane just gets beaten up anyway. He wants revenge, and this is how he’s going to try and get it, by doing things on his terms.

    That was the intention, anyway!


    Quote Originally Posted by BlazeFury View Post
    Those introductory posts were hilarious. I guess 2001-2003 WWE really was a shit-show.

    I'm really excited to see the careers of guys like Cena, Edge, Mysterio develop under you. I certainly hope Eddie wins the World Title here too, and a full main event RVD run would be very fun to see.

    Will be paying close attention!
    Firstly, love the sig.

    Secondly, you’ve actually tapped in to both of the main reasons why I wanted to do this era. 1) What they did was way worse than it should have been, and the opportunity to right those wrongs excited me, and 2) turning the up-and-comers in to big deals felt like something I could really get behind.

    I mean, at this time they had Cena, Orton, Batista, Jericho, Christian, Eddie, Benoit, RVD, Edge, Booker T, Mysterio and Bradshaw all being treated as midcarders but who would go on to be main eventers in the not too distant future. They also had Matt Hardy, Tajiri, Rhyno, WGTT, Noble, Kendrick, Goldust and Lance Storm not really being used but with the potential to offer something, even if they weren’t going to headline Wrestlemania 20 or anything.


    Thanks again guys, really, really appreciate you all taking the time to provide feedback, whether it’s encouragement or constructive. Smackdown should be coming up in the next couple of days, featuring:


    • Big Show & Brock Lesnar in the main event against Vince’s wishes, with Steph as the guest referee
    • Eddie defends the US Title against Cena
    • Tajiri and Kidman compete for the Number One Contendership of the Cruiserweight title
    • And Matt tries to motivate Shannon as only he can

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