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    I feel like, everytime something terrible like this happens, I can sing along with this thread like a song on the radio
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    Re: The Fresh and Civil Politics Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim View Post
    Nice blog there, bud. Try Washington Post.
    The event still happened.

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    Re: The Fresh and Civil Politics Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim View Post
    Nice blog there, bud. Try Washington Post.
    Here you go, your highness: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.f30ba0a30209

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    Re: The Fresh and Civil Politics Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Smarkslayer View Post
    I had already linked it, ya doofus.

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    Re: The Fresh and Civil Politics Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim View Post
    I had already linked it, ya doofus.
    My mistake since I didn't need to read about the very event I was sharing with you. I don't need to read it again.

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    Re: The Fresh and Civil Politics Thread

    So, Smark, any comments on this tragedy?

    No?

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    Re: The Fresh and Civil Politics Thread

    Todays shooting happened in a state where the "Good guy with a gun" is arguably most prevalent, and the school had numerous armed security.

    You list one event, Smark. Yet there have been 22 school shooting incidents this year so far. And it is not even half over.

    How many school shootings have occurred in other developed countries this year, by the way? Scandinavian countries? Germany? Japan? Australia? New Zealand? France? England? Scotland? Hong Kong? Singapore?

    Countries with a high quality of life (Most higher than USA), universal healthcare, lower crime rates, etc. Countries that rank higher in personal and economic freedoms, yet meanwhile, America brags about being the land of the free.

    These countries have what missing figure that we don't? They have schools, mental illness, video games, movies, etc. I mean, I can't tell you how many exits a school in Munich has, but I don't think it's a factor.
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    Re: The Fresh and Civil Politics Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim View Post
    "Children died? Who cares!

    What types of guns were used? A shotgun and revolver, not assault rifles, that's what really matters! Not the children!"'



    Grade-A Bullshit there, bud.
    That is bullshit.

    Where did you read that at? Whoever wrote that is insensitive.

    Glad it wasn't me.

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    Re: The Fresh and Civil Politics Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim View Post
    So, Smark, any comments on this tragedy?

    No?
    I think Dak has already already proven that regardless of what I say unless it's "get rid of the guns" you're going to twist my words or mock what I say, so why bother?

    To be honest, I'm at work and I don't even know about the current event you're referring to. I'll look into it shortly and make a comment if I have one. Obviously I hope everyone that made it through this is doing as well as they can.

    Quote Originally Posted by v4yne View Post
    Todays shooting happened in a state where the "Good guy with a gun" is arguably most prevalent, and the school had numerous armed security.

    You list one event, Smark. Yet there have been 22 school shooting incidents this year so far. And it is not even half over.

    How many school shootings have occurred in other developed countries this year, by the way? Scandinavian countries? Germany? Japan? Australia? New Zealand? France? England? Scotland? Hong Kong? Singapore?

    Countries with a high quality of life (Most higher than USA), universal healthcare, lower crime rates, etc. Countries that rank higher in personal and economic freedoms, yet meanwhile, America brags about being the land of the free.

    These countries have what missing figure that we don't? They have schools, mental illness, video games, movies, etc. I mean, I can't tell you how many exits a school in Munich has, but I don't think it's a factor.
    Grim made an inaccurate statement that it's never happened once and I corrected him, I wasn't saying anything about this current situation.

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    Re: The Fresh and Civil Politics Thread

    Well, was anything inaccurate in my post, Smark? Because I feel like I hit the nail on the head.


    Dak, thoughts? You tend to ignore 90% of the posts I make if they don't seem easy for you to respond with a meme, smilie, or your typical rhetoric.

    I'd provide some links and the like, but you refuse to click anything or look into anything that may counter your point of view. (Meanwhile, you expect others to.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by v4yne View Post
    If you don't think the NRA is a propaganda machine with far too much pull and power, you're a nutter.

    Disgusting. Kids are dying and you republicans still have the knee-jerk reaction "don't touch my guns" the rest of the world cares more about your children then you do.

    The NRA should have been ousted years ago. But instead, we're focusing on attacking news networks and Amazon.
    The NRA doesn't take one penny of government money.

    Disgusting. Kids are dying and you liberals still have the knee-jerk reaction "ban guns" the rest of the world cares more about your children then you do.

    There is nothing to 'oust' the NRA from. They are an organization. Period.

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    Re: The Fresh and Civil Politics Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Smarkslayer View Post
    I think Dak has already already proven that regardless of what I say unless it's "get rid of the guns" you're going to twist my words or mock what I say, so why bother?
    Indeed.

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    This ain't cloth we wear it's a rag, we're at the mercy of the carpetbag
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    Re: The Fresh and Civil Politics Thread

    You know what else is an organization? ISIS.

    See how that works? An organization can be an issue.

    Nice way to try and turn my post around, but the rest of the world doesn't have to deal with 22 school shootings in 5 months.

    Oh, and what are your thoughts about Donald Trump making comments about Bill Gates daughter in a conversation with him, and not knowing the difference between HPV and HIV and needing two separate calls to explain it to him? I thought he was a genius?

    You ignored a large sum of what I posted by the way, as predicted.
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    Re: The Fresh and Civil Politics Thread

    Says the guy who said nothing about the kids and instead jumped straight into the ''It wasn't an assault rifle'' smug rhetoric.

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    Damn those evil law-abiding citizens that defend the rights of the American people and the constitution of the United States.

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    Re: The Fresh and Civil Politics Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Smarkslayer View Post
    Damn those evil law-abiding citizens that defend the rights of the American people and the constitution of the United States.
    Yesterday the shooter was a law-abiding citizen who owned a gun.

    Today, he is a mass murderer.

    Your point? No one is arguing against the 2nd amendment, or wanting to ban guns. Well, maybe Marshall.

    I'm more so into metal detectors at schools, stricter background checks, and mental health being a focus.

    I would also like to see some gun training, to prevent prevalent gun accidents, which in my state, are the most common cause of gun deaths.
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    Quote Originally Posted by v4yne View Post
    You know what else is an organization? ISIS.

    See how that works? An organization can be an issue.
    So is the American Heart Association. That point means nothing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim View Post
    Says the guy who said nothing about the kids and instead jumped straight into the ''It wasn't an assault rifle'' smug rhetoric.
    Yeah, whoever said that is horrible. Wasn't me though because I said it was a tragedy and I wasn't the one who first mentioned guns and got political after said tragedy. Nice try though.

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    Ain't it enough just to know that you got us beat

    The hatred will never cease, even now that there's peace
    The feelings will run as deep as the scars we bear
    This ain't cloth we wear it's a rag, we're at the mercy of the carpetbag
    What you call justice is plain unfair
    How the hell can you ever claim
    It's been worth all of the pain
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    Re: The Fresh and Civil Politics Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Dakstang View Post
    So is the American Heart Association. That point means nothing.
    No, it means a lot. It means that organizations can be good or bad. Your deflection was that it's just an organization, so therefor, not a big deal. I responded proving that certain organizations are criminal and should not be allowed to exist.

    Whether or not you agree with the NRA being criminal is your perspective, but to say it's just an organization so that excuses anything, is just silly.

    And Dak, how can you not see that something politically must be done about this?

    Why is it when a Muslim runs over a bunch of people, we must get strict and talk tough.

    But when a white kid shoots up a school, this isn't the time to talk? We have to hang our heads, and offer thoughts and prayers.

    When is the time to talk? When do we get political? Did we have enough of a grace period in between these two school shootings to talk? Because last I heard it was too soon to talk about the LAST school shooting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by v4yne View Post
    Yesterday the shooter was a law-abiding citizen who owned a gun.

    Today, he is a mass murderer.

    Your point? No one is arguing against the 2nd amendment, or wanting to ban guns. Well, maybe Marshall.

    I'm more so into metal detectors at schools, stricter background checks, and mental health being a focus.

    I would also like to see some gun training, to prevent prevalent gun accidents, which in my state, are the most common cause of gun deaths.
    Well you should say that instead of spewing rhetoric about guns and the NRA.

    I can actually support SOME of those things and have suggested SOME of the same before in this thread.

    That is the way we work together to solve a problem. If you attack my side then I am not going to cooperate. I am going to attack back.

    They laid waste to our land, they took it from our hand
    From Atlanta to Savannah, they scorched our earth
    They stole our corn and wheat, they left no food to eat
    They slaughtered all the cattle, took the things of worth
    Well, we got women and children too
    Just the same as you
    Ain't it enough just to know that you got us beat

    The hatred will never cease, even now that there's peace
    The feelings will run as deep as the scars we bear
    This ain't cloth we wear it's a rag, we're at the mercy of the carpetbag
    What you call justice is plain unfair
    How the hell can you ever claim
    It's been worth all of the pain
    Just to have us live together under one flag

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    Re: The Fresh and Civil Politics Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Dakstang View Post
    Well you should say that instead of spewing rhetoric about guns and the NRA.

    I can actually support SOME of those things and have suggested SOME of the same before in this thread.

    That is the way we work together to solve a problem. If you attack the NRA in my eyes you are attacking the 2nd Amendment so that ends any cooperation right there.
    Alright, well then I will from now on take that approach here. I was not implying to attack the 2A, but instead simply the organization.

    What are your thoughts on metal detectors in schools?
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