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    Re: The Fresh and Civil Politics Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim View Post
    It wasn't in reference to you. He stated you're acting like a liberal, which is basically stating "all liberals are the same", which is most definitely untrue.

    Your argument so far is fair, as far as I can ascertain. I don't know anything about Canadian politics, so your opinion is far better than mine, but let's at least refrain from showing hostility, and not say someone is outright wrong; just correct them nicely is what I'm saying.
    Fair enough. But it also comes down to him admitting he was incorrect as well. i clearly put a link that displays stats on what countries immigrants come from.
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    Re: The Fresh and Civil Politics Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by indyfan View Post
    Here you go Dak

    http://canadaimmigrants.com/canada-i...-country-2016/

    The majority of immigrants come from the Philippines, followed by India, coming in third is Syria. China comes in fourth and Pakistan comes in fifth

    Theres a simple line chart to display it

    As usual..you are wrong
    Proves nothing really. Has nothing to do with any of the countries President Trump supposedly mentioned.

    You show me statistics on their employment.

    If a large percentage of them are fast food workers or janitors, I will concede the argument.

    You know they are more than likely highly educated and highly skilled as I have been saying all along.

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    Re: The Fresh and Civil Politics Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Dakstang View Post
    Proves nothing really. Has nothing to do with any of the countries President Trump supposedly mentioned.

    You show me statistics on their employment.

    If a large percentage of them are fast food workers or janitors, I will concede the argument.

    You know they are more than likely highly educated and highly skilled as I have been saying all along.
    Didn't you just say most people from the third world would be exempt if we only took in highly skilled and highly educated immigrants yet those countries are within the top 5 nations where immigrants come from.
    Here fishy fishy fishy.......

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    Re: The Fresh and Civil Politics Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by indyfan View Post
    Didn't you just say most people from the third world would be exempt if we only took in highly skilled and highly educated immigrants yet those countries are within the top 5 nations where immigrants come from.
    I wouldn't exactly call the Philippines and India 'third world' nations....definitely not on the same level as Haiti.

    So no...

    They laid waste to our land, they took it from our hand
    From Atlanta to Savannah, they scorched our earth
    They stole our corn and wheat, they left no food to eat
    They slaughtered all the cattle, took the things of worth
    Well, we got women and children too
    Just the same as you
    Ain't it enough just to know that you got us beat

    The hatred will never cease, even now that there's peace
    The feelings will run as deep as the scars we bear
    This ain't cloth we wear it's a rag, we're at the mercy of the carpetbag
    What you call justice is plain unfair
    How the hell can you ever claim
    It's been worth all of the pain
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    Re: The Fresh and Civil Politics Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Dakstang View Post
    I wouldn't exactly call the Philippines and India 'third world' nations....definitely not on the same level as Haiti.

    So no...
    Philippines and India are considered 3rd world countries despite their development. But yes they are not on the same level as Haiti.
    Here fishy fishy fishy.......

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    Re: The Fresh and Civil Politics Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by indyfan View Post
    Philippines and India are considered 3rd world countries despite their development. But yes they are not on the same level as Haiti.
    Yeah I knew they were technically still considered third world countries.

    I think that term is a bit outdated and overused at this point though.

    They laid waste to our land, they took it from our hand
    From Atlanta to Savannah, they scorched our earth
    They stole our corn and wheat, they left no food to eat
    They slaughtered all the cattle, took the things of worth
    Well, we got women and children too
    Just the same as you
    Ain't it enough just to know that you got us beat

    The hatred will never cease, even now that there's peace
    The feelings will run as deep as the scars we bear
    This ain't cloth we wear it's a rag, we're at the mercy of the carpetbag
    What you call justice is plain unfair
    How the hell can you ever claim
    It's been worth all of the pain
    Just to have us live together under one flag

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    Re: The Fresh and Civil Politics Thread

    To be honest, none of us should even be using "First World" or "Third World" as terms in modern-day parlance. Both are terms derived from the Cold War, and are, in reality, bastardized uses of the term. The First World countries were NATO, Second World Countries were USSR/Chinese/Communist blocs, and Third World were countries that didn't fit either mold, such as Greenland, Mexico, the entirety of the Middle East, most of the Indian Oceanic countries bar Australia and New Zealand, and of course the entirety of South America. It had little to do with actual economies. I'm not sure how it came to be what it is now, but that's another matter entirely.

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    Re: The Fresh and Civil Politics Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Dakstang View Post

    I think that term is a bit outdated and overused at this point though.
    Yes, according to the news and our POTUS, the current term is "Shithole countries."
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    Re: The Fresh and Civil Politics Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by v4yne View Post
    Yes, according to the news and our POTUS, the current term is "Shithole countries."
    You mean according to the news and some people who were in attendance.

    Prove he said it.

    You can't.

    End of story.

    They laid waste to our land, they took it from our hand
    From Atlanta to Savannah, they scorched our earth
    They stole our corn and wheat, they left no food to eat
    They slaughtered all the cattle, took the things of worth
    Well, we got women and children too
    Just the same as you
    Ain't it enough just to know that you got us beat

    The hatred will never cease, even now that there's peace
    The feelings will run as deep as the scars we bear
    This ain't cloth we wear it's a rag, we're at the mercy of the carpetbag
    What you call justice is plain unfair
    How the hell can you ever claim
    It's been worth all of the pain
    Just to have us live together under one flag

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    Re: The Fresh and Civil Politics Thread

    That's seemingly the route of all Trump apologists, like Huckabee-Sanders.

    "He never said it. Prove it."
    "Out of context."


    After all of the things he has tweeted and said, are you really telling me you find it unlikely he said that?

    And are you really going to expect him to come out and admit it, and those close to him to admit it?
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    Re: The Fresh and Civil Politics Thread

    Let's be honest, we can neither prove that Trump did or did not say "shithole". It's a useless exercise in speculation that will get us nowhere. Nonetheless, these people have accused him, and one of two things happened: Either he said it or didn't say it. Whatever was said in that room we might never really know.

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    Exactly.

    We do not know and will never know if he said it.

    His opponents are going to obviously say he said it and milk it for all it is worth.

    As goes dirty politics.

    They laid waste to our land, they took it from our hand
    From Atlanta to Savannah, they scorched our earth
    They stole our corn and wheat, they left no food to eat
    They slaughtered all the cattle, took the things of worth
    Well, we got women and children too
    Just the same as you
    Ain't it enough just to know that you got us beat

    The hatred will never cease, even now that there's peace
    The feelings will run as deep as the scars we bear
    This ain't cloth we wear it's a rag, we're at the mercy of the carpetbag
    What you call justice is plain unfair
    How the hell can you ever claim
    It's been worth all of the pain
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    Re: The Fresh and Civil Politics Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by v4yne View Post
    Yes, according to the news and our POTUS, the current term is "Shithole countries."
    This was fuckin gold.

    I have to spread reputation around.
    Here fishy fishy fishy.......

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    Re: The Fresh and Civil Politics Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by indyfan View Post
    This was fuckin gold.

    I have to spread reputation around.
    Except for the inconvenient fact that it is simply an untrue statement.


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    They stole our corn and wheat, they left no food to eat
    They slaughtered all the cattle, took the things of worth
    Well, we got women and children too
    Just the same as you
    Ain't it enough just to know that you got us beat

    The hatred will never cease, even now that there's peace
    The feelings will run as deep as the scars we bear
    This ain't cloth we wear it's a rag, we're at the mercy of the carpetbag
    What you call justice is plain unfair
    How the hell can you ever claim
    It's been worth all of the pain
    Just to have us live together under one flag

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    Re: The Fresh and Civil Politics Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Dakstang View Post
    Except for the inconvenient fact that it is simply an untrue statement.


    I thought you said no one really knows... wouldn't that mean there is a possibility?
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    Re: The Fresh and Civil Politics Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by indyfan View Post
    I thought you said no one really knows... wouldn't that mean there is a possibility?
    I suppose so.

    However here in America we consider people innocent until proven guilty.


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    From Atlanta to Savannah, they scorched our earth
    They stole our corn and wheat, they left no food to eat
    They slaughtered all the cattle, took the things of worth
    Well, we got women and children too
    Just the same as you
    Ain't it enough just to know that you got us beat

    The hatred will never cease, even now that there's peace
    The feelings will run as deep as the scars we bear
    This ain't cloth we wear it's a rag, we're at the mercy of the carpetbag
    What you call justice is plain unfair
    How the hell can you ever claim
    It's been worth all of the pain
    Just to have us live together under one flag

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    Re: The Fresh and Civil Politics Thread

    Unless it's a Clinton, right?
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    Re: The Fresh and Civil Politics Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by v4yne View Post
    Unless it's a Clinton, right?
    I mean... it was proven she used e-mails in a terrible way, but other than that & the myriad of other shit she's done, I don't think she's done anything else too terrible. I voted for her and still cannot deny she's a horrible person. Still, I'd have rather been stabbed in the chest than in the back with Trump, at least I'd know what was coming.

    Even if you're talking about Bill, I do like him, but he's got his fair share of skeletons in the closet as well... almost every mainstream politician does, in my opinion at least.

    Trump has those skeletons too, let me not deny that either.

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    Re: The Fresh and Civil Politics Thread

    Same goes for a Clinton.

    Not sure why it wouldn't.

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    From Atlanta to Savannah, they scorched our earth
    They stole our corn and wheat, they left no food to eat
    They slaughtered all the cattle, took the things of worth
    Well, we got women and children too
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    Ain't it enough just to know that you got us beat

    The hatred will never cease, even now that there's peace
    The feelings will run as deep as the scars we bear
    This ain't cloth we wear it's a rag, we're at the mercy of the carpetbag
    What you call justice is plain unfair
    How the hell can you ever claim
    It's been worth all of the pain
    Just to have us live together under one flag

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    Re: The Fresh and Civil Politics Thread

    Back in my day if a major, reputable paper reported on something it was generally accepted as fact. Especially if it was corroborated by other people in the room.

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