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    Re: The Fresh and Civil Politics Thread

    Here we go with that argument again. May as well just make murder and theft and rape legal while we're at it since laws don't stop people.
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    Re: The Fresh and Civil Politics Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Panther View Post
    Here we go with that argument again. May as well just make murder and theft and rape legal while we're at it since laws don't stop people.
    Or we could just make alcohol or cars illegal when someone kills someone else driving drunk.

    Makes as much sense. Punish everyone else for the stupidity of a few.

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    Re: The Fresh and Civil Politics Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Dakstang View Post
    Or we could just make alcohol or cars illegal when someone kills someone else driving drunk.

    Makes as much sense. Punish everyone else for the stupidity of a few.
    One presumes you're fine legalizing drugs then?
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    One presumes you're fine legalizing drugs then?
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    Re: The Fresh and Civil Politics Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Panther View Post
    One presumes you're fine legalizing drugs then?
    I'd be OK with decriminalization of using or possessing drugs, but not full legalization. Drug sellers should still be charged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panther View Post
    One presumes you're fine legalizing drugs then?
    I support decriminalization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakstang View Post
    I support decriminalization.
    Well I'll never say you aren't consistent then.
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    If people want to be stupid enough to get hooked up and kill themselves with Meth or Heroin, by all means let them. We have enough stupid people killing themselves with perfectly legal Tide pods. This is mostly sarcastic.
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    Re: The Fresh and Civil Politics Thread

    Decriminalizing all drugs and treating drug addiction as a mental illness worked wonders in all aspects in Portugal.

    However, using that whole "cars vs guns" argument is just moronic.

    A car is a tool used for transportation. However, it can kill.
    A gun is a tool used for killing. Period. That is it's intent.

    And I can absolutely guarantee, even you Dak, use your car and rely on it more on a regular basis than your gun(s). And should you not have your car, you would be worse for wear than had you not had your guns.

    Alas, no one is saying take peoples guns away. No one is asking for a 2nd repeal, or this or that.

    But the bottom line is, America has an huge issue and is completely incapable of fixing it.

    What is different? Violent forms of media? You'll find that pretty much anywhere else, with some exceptions. Mental illness? Well, that's not a country specific thing either. Also, everywhere.

    At some point one must think "What is it that is different in A, B, C, D etc, than it is with F? Why is it these other countries lack this issue?"

    And when you start to come to some realizations of what it is, whatever it may be, and you just respond "That works there. It will not work here". Alright, if that is the case...Then it would seem very simple that not having mass shootings on a regular basis will be something that cannot be fixed, and is something we have to live with.

    And then, if that is truly the case? Well, anyone who truly believes that and also believes this country to be the greatest in the world (Nevermind the lack of healthcare, barely cracking the top 20 on economic/personal freedoms, education issues,etc) despite the fact we have a mass murder issue that no one will address or fix? They are just a complete imbecile, with blind patriotism.
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    Re: The Fresh and Civil Politics Thread

    Salah Abdeslam, the only surviving suspect of the 2015 Paris Terror Attacks has been found guilty of a terror charge after a gunfight in Belgium.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe...e=news_central

    Looks like these scumbags finally got the justice they deserve.
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    In all honesty im ok with them legalizing weed. I mean if you apply the same type of laws like you would drinking then yes we should legalize weed. Now that being said the hard drugs should never be legalized . I mean I seen many of friends who started out on weed and move onto pills and other drugs pass away it can be a slippery slope if you don't have self control. Now wasn't it in some state they wanted to legalize meth or coke could be wrong

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    Re: The Fresh and Civil Politics Thread

    I like what Colorado and Washington started with weed. Nationally, I think the tax benefits would be huge in getting us out of debt and funding projects that have been put on the back burner. I'd also like to see some real studies done on the effects of weed. I'd like to see what the actual positive AND harmful effects are so grown adults could make rational informed choices about their choice to use or not use it.


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    Re: The Fresh and Civil Politics Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by White Rhyno View Post
    I like what Colorado and Washington started with weed. Nationally, I think the tax benefits would be huge in getting us out of debt and funding projects that have been put on the back burner. I'd also like to see some real studies done on the effects of weed. I'd like to see what the actual positive AND harmful effects are so grown adults could make rational informed choices about their choice to use or not use it.
    Yea if you tax it would help with debt

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