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    Re: The Civil NA Politics Thread

    Take a look at this...its even on Foxnews

    https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/...line-on-record
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    Re: The Civil NA Politics Thread

    Herman Cain passed away today from complications of COVID. He was hospitalized on July 1st after attending a Trump rally without a mask on June 22. So yeah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grim Cornette View Post
    Herman Cain passed away today from complications of COVID. He was hospitalized on July 1st after attending a Trump rally without a mask on June 22. So yeah.
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    Re: The Civil NA Politics Thread

    Maybe it'll be the turning point and wake up call for the GOP and their base.

    .........Nah, probably not.


    Oh, and in other news...Trumpty wants to delay the election.
    Everything will surely be alright.



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    Re: The Civil NA Politics Thread

    Can't lose it if it doesn't happen

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    Re: The Civil NA Politics Thread

    Apparently Trump is signing something to have tiktoc officially banned in the US
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    Re: The Civil NA Politics Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by indyfan View Post
    Apparently Trump is signing something to have tiktoc officially banned in the US

    Man is legitimately scared of the Youth of America talking absolute shit about him on social media.

    That said, I'm fairly sure the banning of a privately owned international business is not only unconstitutional, but against every facet of Capitalism the right claims to be champions of, no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grim Cornette View Post
    Man is legitimately scared of the Youth of America talking absolute shit about him on social media.

    That said, I'm fairly sure the banning of a privately owned international business is not only unconstitutional, but against every facet of Capitalism the right claims to be champions of, no?
    it does seem anti capitalist. Theres no other way around it. his pathetic spats with the media and now social media are hilarious.

    Hes as wannabe dictator. i really hope you guys vote him out and the US can start its recovery
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    Re: The Civil NA Politics Thread

    So Jared Kushner and Trump obviously decided to ignore a nationwide COVID plan because they thought COVID would fuck the blue states more?

    That is disgusting.


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    Re: The Civil NA Politics Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by RainShaker View Post
    So Jared Kushner and Trump obviously decided to ignore a nationwide COVID plan because they thought COVID would fuck the blue states more?

    That is disgusting.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/kush...-report-2020-7

    Source for anyone interested.

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    Re: The Civil NA Politics Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim Cornette View Post
    Holy shit...that is messed up
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    Re: The Civil NA Politics Thread

    The TikTok thing is a China thing, not a social media thing.

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    Re: The Civil NA Politics Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Postman Dave View Post
    The TikTok thing is a China thing, not a social media thing.

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    The majority of Americans who use TikTok are approximately 16-34 (80%), 60% are Gen Zers. You also forget that back in July most TikTokers hijacked Trump's rallies and forced one of his apps to become 1.2 Stars in the Apple Store.

    It's neither a China thing, nor a social media thing, it's a "Youth Vote Supression" thing. If it were really about China, there would be many more companies being banned by Trump instead of a silly social media platform.

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    Yea the idea that banning TikTok is unconstitutional is pretty bizarre. I mean first all they aren’t an American business. Secondly America First is Trump’s mantra and he has been anti-Globalismzation so this is entirely consistent with his politics, regardless of how bad they are.

    this is nothing to do with millennials making jokes about him on social media, what a bizarre idea, it’s about China and the nature of the relationship Chinese business have with the rest of the world. There are entirely legitimate concerns about China gathering user data and information, stealing IP, etc. This is an issue to be viewed through the lens of national security and the ongoing Cold War between the two countries. India have already banned TikTok for the same reasons and Australia could join them soon too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Steventon View Post
    Yea the idea that banning TikTok is unconstitutional is pretty bizarre. I mean first all they aren’t an American business. Secondly America First is Trump’s mantra and he has been anti-Globalismzation so this is entirely consistent with his politics, regardless of how bad they are.

    this is nothing to do with millennials making jokes about him on social media, what a bizarre idea, it’s about China and the nature of the relationship Chinese business have with the rest of the world. There are entirely legitimate concerns about China gathering user data and information, stealing IP, etc. This is an issue to be viewed through the lens of national security and the ongoing Cold War between the two countries. India have already banned TikTok for the same reasons and Australia could join them soon too.
    And yet Facebook does the exact same thing and usually gets away scot-free. Facebook is inherently more dangerous than TikTok ever could be, in all honesty.

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    And yet Facebook does the exact same thing and usually gets away scot-free. Facebook is inherently more dangerous than TikTok ever could be, in all honesty.
    You’re missing the most important difference here though.

    in America, the Government cannot get control of a private businesses assets, and they cannot access their data. They are protected from that. That is why the FBI and whoever else haven’t been able to decrypt WhatsApp and other platforms. If the US Government demanded Facebook hand over all their user data, Facebook can and would refuse and there’s nothing the Government can do about it.

    under Chinese law, all companies must give the Government access to all their assets and data at any point upon request. So if the Chinese government wanted access to all of TikToks user data, they have to allow them under law.

    that is a the vital difference. It is the same debate as the Huawei debate. It is about the link between Chinese government and business, which is a very legitimate national security threat.

    if you want to see a difference, the fact that Mark Zuckerberg is in the Supreme Court this week to defend his company tells you the story.

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    Re: The Civil NA Politics Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by King Steventon View Post
    You’re missing the most important difference here though.

    in America, the Government cannot get control of a private businesses assets, and they cannot access their data. They are protected from that. That is why the FBI and whoever else haven’t been able to decrypt WhatsApp and other platforms. If the US Government demanded Facebook hand over all their user data, Facebook can and would refuse and there’s nothing the Government can do about it.

    under Chinese law, all companies must give the Government access to all their assets and data at any point upon request. So if the Chinese government wanted access to all of TikToks user data, they have to allow them under law.

    that is a the vital difference. It is the same debate as the Huawei debate. It is about the link between Chinese government and business, which is a very legitimate national security threat.

    if you want to see a difference, the fact that Mark Zuckerberg is in the Supreme Court this week to defend his company tells you the story.
    https://twitter.com/W7VOA/status/1289385979833352193

    What does this tweet say to you? He doesn't want a US company buying TikTok's US assets for some alleged reason.

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    Re: The Civil NA Politics Thread

    A one line tweet from a random reporter with no detail? Means nothing. I’ll take the word of the vast majority of national security experts instead

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    Trump's mad that Tik Tokkers helped bury his abysmal Tulsa rally and has spent the last month fuming and talking with everyone in the White House trying to figure out a valid reason to take down the platform.

    Change my mind.



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    Re: The Civil NA Politics Thread

    Maybe it’s both, but the national security angle is 100% there. India banned TikTok this week for basically the same reasons.

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