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    Re: The Civil NA Politics Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Batko10 View Post
    You're right. We should ignore each other since nothing is going to convince you and you're going to stick by the Democrat Party's socialist agenda of:

    - INFANTICIDE

    - OPEN BORDERS

    - RAISING TAXES

    - HATING PRESIDENT TRUMP

    Good luck with that platform in the 2020 elections!
    - Infanticide is the killing of toddlers. Not unborn sacks of DNA that are essentially a parasite until the age of development.

    - Nobody wants open borders, and the fact you believe that says more about you than any of us.

    - Taxes are a necessary evil, but you know what else will raise taxes? A wall. A Space Force. A whole litany of things Trump wants to do.

    - Trump is an unlikeable person. It doesn't take a genius to see that. He's known to be a crook and essentially a mobster. You keep using "whatabout Obama" to excuse the behavior that Trump has done before he was elected, which isn't a good hill to die on, man.

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    Re: The Civil NA Politics Thread

    i wonder if this batko guy believes in evolution or not

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Steventon View Post
    i wonder if this batko guy believes in evolution or not
    I think we both know the answer to that.

    Science is made up by liberals and the Chinese, bro.
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    Re: The Civil NA Politics Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Batko10 View Post
    You mean like Obama did on the border?




    My tax dollars shouldn't be spent killing unborn babies. BTW, the Democrats/leftists are beyond that and are now advocating and applauding infanticide. BTW, did you ever consider that abortion is a form of racist genocide since four out of five abortions are performed on black babies? Just asking.




    And, rightly so. Say what you will, but any male that voluntary has his male organs surgically removed and goes prancing around acting like a female is mentally unstable and should not be in the military.
    Hey buddy i find the entire US governments corrupt. Nice try on the Obama. Fuck him too.

    And planned parent hood does way more than just abortions. They also offer contraceptions.

    Your views on transgenders are pretty parralel to what most old US right wingers think. Whats next climate change isnt real because its cold out?

    Racist genocide... god damn


    Here ill paint you a picture on abortion

    First things first im not advocating abortions after the 1st trimester unless its a medical reason.

    These are the facts...you ban abortion...women will find illegal ways to do it. So now you are adding to your crime stats and forcing women to use un ethical means. Plus if you force them to have the kid...the kid may get put into a system where its already overloaded with kids waiting for adoption.

    Or how about the women has the child...parents arent ready...kid gets neglected or brought in a shitty situation and ends up a criminal due to his mental issues due to his up bringing.

    Then he ends up robbing you.

    I know..i know... i know..its not your issue if the woman and man didnt think before sleeping with each other.

    This has been going on for centuries. Its what humans do. They hook up and have sex.

    You want more people bringing up kids when they dont have the financial means or mental capicity to be responsible since they were to young?

    Of course its not black and white . Some young people have kids at 20 and do just fine.

    Also this doesnt mean abortion should be used as a form of birth control
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    Re: The Civil NA Politics Thread

    Why do people think taxes are evil?


    There isnt a country in the world that is doing alright that doesnt have taxes.

    We need to be taxed.

    It comes down to what do you want your taxes for.

    Better society...or more wars
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    Re: The Civil NA Politics Thread

    The only people who are going on about taxes being evil are the wealthy elite in the republican upper echelon who like to preach about Reaganomics. They want to convince the hayseeds who vote for them based on their religious, xenophobic, and pro gun message to them...That if they cut the rich people's taxes, it will end up benefiting them in the long run.

    Which is completely disprove, yet millions of working class blue collar people are convinced by giving tax breaks to the super rich, that they will end up with more jobs and bigger paychecks. All the while, they are kept in grinding poverty.


    And look whom that benefits.

    Then you have the libertarians who completely have no grasp of economics, and believe that things like infrastructure and everything that is kept up with taxes will just be all well and grand, because people will take care of it out of the kindness of the hearts. That we will all not need taxes, and just go out of our way as a society to keep things working together. Which is a total pipedream.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vayne View Post
    The only people who are going on about taxes being evil are the wealthy elite in the republican upper echelon who like to preach about Reaganomics. They want to convince the hayseeds who vote for them based on their religious, xenophobic, and pro gun message to them...That if they cut the rich people's taxes, it will end up benefiting them in the long run.

    Which is completely disprove, yet millions of working class blue collar people are convinced by giving tax breaks to the super rich, that they will end up with more jobs and bigger paychecks. All the while, they are kept in grinding poverty.


    And look whom that benefits.

    Then you have the libertarians who completely have no grasp of economics, and believe that things like infrastructure and everything that is kept up with taxes will just be all well and grand, because people will take care of it out of the kindness of the hearts. That we will all not need taxes, and just go out of our way as a society to keep things working together. Which is a total pipedream.
    Couldnt agree more.


    I also love..if the rich are taxed too much..they will just move out of the country.

    Where to? They will get taxed in those countries too
    Here fishy fishy fishy.......

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    Re: The Civil NA Politics Thread

    Most probably assume they could move to UAE, Monaco, etc. the places that don't have taxes and escape it, not realizing that that's not how it works. You have to remember it's Americans...and we're idiots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CNEW2 View Post
    Most probably assume they could move to UAE, Monaco, etc. the places that don't have taxes and escape it, not realizing that that's not how it works. You have to remember it's Americans...and we're idiots.
    Yeah, I think the religious right would quite enjoy having a country like the UAE that is a complete theocracy.

    It's so funny that the same people who bash the Arab countries for Sharia law want to run a country with blue laws and their own form of Sharia law, based around Christianity.
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    Re: The Civil NA Politics Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Vayne View Post
    The only people who are going on about taxes being evil are the wealthy elite in the republican upper echelon who like to preach about Reaganomics. They want to convince the hayseeds who vote for them based on their religious, xenophobic, and pro gun message to them...That if they cut the rich people's taxes, it will end up benefiting them in the long run.

    Which is completely disprove, yet millions of working class blue collar people are convinced by giving tax breaks to the super rich, that they will end up with more jobs and bigger paychecks. All the while, they are kept in grinding poverty.


    And look whom that benefits.

    Then you have the libertarians who completely have no grasp of economics, and believe that things like infrastructure and everything that is kept up with taxes will just be all well and grand, because people will take care of it out of the kindness of the hearts. That we will all not need taxes, and just go out of our way as a society to keep things working together. Which is a total pipedream.


    Oh wait...



    If taxes are not mandatory, the government falls. Plain and simple (plus a couple of other fun historical context to why the AoC fell).

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    Re: The Civil NA Politics Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by indyfan View Post
    Couldnt agree more.


    I also love..if the rich are taxed too much..they will just move out of the country.

    Where to? They will get taxed in those countries too
    There are places that let you pre-negotiate a tax rate.

    Gibraltar for example will let you pay something like a 1% tax. The way is essentially works is you create a business in these tax shelter countries. You then create an LLC in the USA, which your employer contracts you through. The foreign entity licenses out your name to the LLC in the USA for nearly your whole salary. Example, you make $100,000. The foreign entity charges $99,999 to use that name. You then pay tax on $1 in the US, as that is all the profit you had. You then pay 1% tax in Gibraltar on the $99,999.

    You can see some details here using soccer stars as an example: https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ld-cup-corrupt

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    Also, Jeff Bezos, Amazon CEO (duh), just let his dick pics leak in order to expose the National Enquirer as working as an agent for Donald Trump: https://nordic.businessinsider.com/j....com&r=US&IR=T

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    Re: The Civil NA Politics Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Inogenius View Post
    Also, Jeff Bezos, Amazon CEO (duh), just let his dick pics leak in order to expose the National Enquirer as working as an agent for Donald Trump: https://nordic.businessinsider.com/j....com&r=US&IR=T


    Well that's certainly... a thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inogenius View Post
    There are places that let you pre-negotiate a tax rate.

    Gibraltar for example will let you pay something like a 1% tax. The way is essentially works is you create a business in these tax shelter countries. You then create an LLC in the USA, which your employer contracts you through. The foreign entity licenses out your name to the LLC in the USA for nearly your whole salary. Example, you make $100,000. The foreign entity charges $99,999 to use that name. You then pay tax on $1 in the US, as that is all the profit you had. You then pay 1% tax in Gibraltar on the $99,999.

    You can see some details here using soccer stars as an example: https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ld-cup-corrupt

    Damn.. i had no idea. Thanks for that.

    Do you think all the rich would go this path if taxes were raised on them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by indyfan View Post
    Damn.. i had no idea. Thanks for that.

    Do you think all the rich would go this path if taxes were raised on them?
    Yes. I work with a lot of large European tech investors. Almost all of them do.

    PWC specializes in this kind of stuff for businesses. HSBC does it with their private banking.

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    Re: The Civil NA Politics Thread

    Check this out

    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...y-2020-1144874

    It says most Americans are on board with taxing the rich
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    Quote Originally Posted by indyfan View Post
    Check this out

    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...y-2020-1144874

    It says most Americans are on board with taxing the rich
    Yep, oddly enough even most billionaires are on board with it.

    So many of the people not? The blue collar folks who are convinced Reaganomics isn't just a sham, but listen whenever they preach their message of bigotry.

    It's weird. You see these blue collar guys in the country, and they'd hate by default most suits from Washington or NYC. Ask a redneck his opinion of Donald Trump before 2016, and he'd say he's a silver spoon Yankee who needs his ass kicked.

    Oh, and per usual...Trump is being a biggoted asshole. This time he's making crude remarks about Warren's Native lineage, and joking about the Trail of Tears.

    Yikes.
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    Re: The Civil NA Politics Thread

    Welp. Amy Klobuchar is running for President.

    She's easily the most Moderate and respectable of all the candidates and she's been a Senator for Minnesota since 2007, a very good tenure.

    I know where my votes are going in the Primaries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grim Barrows View Post
    Welp. Amy Klobuchar is running for President.

    She's easily the most Moderate and respectable of all the candidates and she's been a Senator for Minnesota since 2007, a very good tenure.

    I know where my votes are going in the Primaries.
    Rumors have it that she is verbally abusive with her staff behind closed doors, and can be just as bad as Trump in the temper regard. I'll pass.

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    Trump loving mass Shooter Alexandre Bisonnette was sentenced to 40 years in prison for the killing of 6 people of Islamic faith at a Mosque in Quebec city last year.

    In all honesty he should of gotten more. But he will most likely not make parole in 40 years.

    Still cant believe this happened.
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