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    Just two more years.. god I hope we get a blue wave in a few months. Cause.. fuck, man. The dookster don't like the world around him.

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    Re: The Civil NA Politics Thread

    Not going to be surprised when Trump starts talking about Canada and Lebensraum.

    I'm kind of curious exactly how Canada and other nations with free trade agreements with the US have "betrayed" the United States. I see rhetoric, not actually factual information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakstang View Post
    Things have changed quite a bit since then.

    The only countries I would even worry about facing in battle these days are China or Russia.

    Not surprised, how you going to fight with all that Russian sausage in your mouth?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood Dook View Post
    Just two more years.. god I hope we get a blue wave in a few months. Cause.. fuck, man. The dookster don't like the world around him.
    You gonna get a red wave.

    Watch and see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Papaheem Sterling View Post
    Not going to be surprised when Trump starts talking about Canada and Lebensraum.

    I'm kind of curious exactly how Canada and other nations with free trade agreements with the US have "betrayed" the United States. I see rhetoric, not actually factual information.
    Well the fact that we let them sell their goods here for free and they charge us to sell our goods there is pretty good proof.

    All the proof I need.

    And fuck anyone who defends such an arrangement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakstang View Post
    You gonna get a red wave.

    Watch and see.
    tbh at this point I wouldn't be surprised if it stays red

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakstang View Post
    Well the fact that we let them sell their goods here for free and they charge us to sell our goods there is pretty good proof.

    All the proof I need.

    And fuck anyone who defends such an arrangement.

    That's not exactly civil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood Dook View Post
    tbh at this point I wouldn't be surprised if it stays red
    Well with the economy on the rise, unemployment rates at 20 year lows, and the stock market setting record highs?

    I think there is an excellent chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by v4yne View Post
    That's not exactly civil.
    I don't see anyone defending such an arrangement as I mentioned so I am not being uncivil to anyone.

    Now if someone wants to take the stance that Canada and other countries should be able to sell their goods here for free yet charge us high rates to sell our goods there I will concede the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakstang View Post
    Well the fact that we let them sell their goods here for free and they charge us to sell our goods there is pretty good proof.

    All the proof I need.

    And fuck anyone who defends such an arrangement.
    What goods would you be referring too? Prior to the retaliatory tariffs put in place - instigated by NOT CANADA, after all - I'm not aware of a lot of tariffs on US imports. Unless you are referring to the milk issue...? But since the US has imposed illegal - based on NAFTA and WTO rules - duties on Canadian softwood lumber.... I would presume you can't be claiming harm over the milk issue....

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    Re: The Civil NA Politics Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Dakstang View Post
    Well the fact that we let them sell their goods here for free and they charge us to sell our goods there is pretty good proof.

    All the proof I need.

    And fuck anyone who defends such an arrangement.
    Can you prove any of this. Im not sure if you are mixing up words. but we don't sell anything in the US for free. What does that even mean?

    Source this and not from Trumps twitter

    here read these dak

    the Us has a trade surplus with Canada(opposite of what Trump is saying)

    https://www.macleans.ca/economy/trumps-america-actually-has-a-trade-surplus-with-canada/

    https://globalnews.ca/news/3898843/t...-donald-trump/
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    Re: The Civil NA Politics Thread

    https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/americas/canada#

    Some other numbers. The US exported $340 billion to Canada in 2017. And imported $333 billion from Canada. We have 10% of the population as the US. We have roughly 10% of the economy size as the US. Yet Canada buys damn near as much from the US as the US from Canada.

    Again, waiting for an explanation of how we "charge" American companies to sell here.

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    If Canada is saying they are charging us up to 270 percent tariffs on dairy products to regulate their dairy industry and protect their farmers why are they so mad if we do the same for our lumber and steel industry?

    You can't have it both ways.

    What is good for the goose is good for the gander.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakstang View Post
    If Canada is saying they are charging us up to 270 percent tariffs on dairy products to regulate their dairy industry and protect their farmers why are they so mad if we do the same for our lumber and steel industry?

    You can't have it both ways.

    What is good for the goose is good for the gander.
    https://ipolitics.ca/2017/04/22/dair...pat-explained/

    Lol wow.... you are really just going to go with the milk issue? That's all you have? You talked like we are throwing up massive tariffs on a wide range of imports (which would be illegal under NAFTA) rather than trying to regulate one single industry (which isn't covered by NAFTA, at least in regard to he particular issue you are bringing up). How many years has the US been illegally taxing lumber imports from Canada? Also, you guys run heavy or heavier tariffs on milk and dairy products. You export about 400m in dairy to Canada... and import under 100m.

    https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-dr...mports-at-all/

    So if its okay for you to restrict import on diary products, why isn't it okay for us to do the same, Dak? Why can't Canada do the same thing you do?

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    Because the milk issue is the only one Trump has mentioned, and he comes in pretty much has been going by whatever he's said as his going point. <.<
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood Dook View Post
    tbh at this point I wouldn't be surprised if it stays red
    If Trump comes out good in these talks with North Korea, 2018 is going to be a bad year for Democrats. It will overshadow everything else and it will basically be his big win this term.

    In fairness to Trump as well, his campaigns are top notch. His rallies are always well attended and create a buzz, his slogans are fantastic (Promises Made, Promises Kept is exceptional). If he can get something positive out of North Korea, along with the upswing in the economy, then he's got a lot to run with for the mid-terms and beyond. I don't think the Democrats can make the progress they want to in that case. Especially since their whole thing at the moment is slagging off the opposition (rightly or wrongly) rather than promoting themselves.

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    On the other hand though, should he completely fuck up with these tariffs and people start losing jobs left and right, that will be Trump's death-knell. It's already been stated that these tariffs could revert us to a 2008-like recession, and if that's the case, I'm among the many people who will get fucked over concerning stocks and whatnot.

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    Re: The Civil NA Politics Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Sergej Milinković-Shockić View Post
    If Trump comes out good in these talks with North Korea, 2018 is going to be a bad year for Democrats. It will overshadow everything else and it will basically be his big win this term.

    In fairness to Trump as well, his campaigns are top notch. His rallies are always well attended and create a buzz, his slogans are fantastic (Promises Made, Promises Kept is exceptional). If he can get something positive out of North Korea, along with the upswing in the economy, then he's got a lot to run with for the mid-terms and beyond. I don't think the Democrats can make the progress they want to in that case. Especially since their whole thing at the moment is slagging off the opposition (rightly or wrongly) rather than promoting themselves.
    I kinda like this approach over the way the situation in Iraq was handled.

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    I know Reddit has a liberal bias, but it's also the 3rd most visited site on the internet.

    It's interesting to read a few of these posts about how Donald Trump has made life worse since becoming President: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/c...sident_of_the/

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    Re: The Civil NA Politics Thread

    Now Trump is saying that Trudeau saying we wont be pushed around will cost us. Lol

    Interesting thing is. Trump doing this has caused both right and left wing parties in Canada( except that wanna be politician kevin O leary) to unite on Trudeaus stance.

    Whereas, division is still pretty bad in the good ole US of A
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