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    Thrown game?

    As a Raider fan, I watched last week's game with the Redskins. Something was off the entire game. The offense wasn't moving the ball and this is a highly explosive unit. Carr was under siege almost every time he dropped back to pass. There were some unusual dropped passes.

    Now we may know why.

    If this turns out to be true I'm not only done with the Raiders, I'm done with the NFL as well.

    Getting extremely tired of this garbage.

    I watch NFL and college football as a form of escapist entertainment because I enjoy the game itself. I don't watch to see political messages of any kind.

    The league could slowly be digging its own grave with stuff like this.

    This needs to get more coverage in the alternative media (the MSM will simply bury it) so it doesn't disappear down the memory hole:

    Shock Report: NFL’s Oakland Raiders Threw Game After White QB Refused To Kneel For National Anthem

    | Alex Thomas | The Daily Sheeple | 133,380 views



    A new report from The Armstrong and Getty Radio Show has sent shockwaves throughout the sports world after it was claimed that members of the NFL’s Oakland Raiders may have purposefully allowed their star quarterback to get sacked multiple times after he refused to kneel during the National Anthem.


    If true, this would essentially mean that an NFL football game was illegally thrown over anger that one of the teams star white players did not believe that kneeling during the nation’s anthem was the correct way to protest supposed racial injustice in America.


    In other words, an epic level scandal.


    During the anthem, virtually the entire team was seen kneeling other than the teams coaches and star quarterback Derek Carr. Unfortunately, this may have not set well with the team’s offensive line as they were apparently the players who spearheaded the entire idea to kneel as a team in the first.


    “This is one hell of a scandal with the NFL, could ruin the whole league,” claimed the show before detailing the fact that Carr was sacked two times in a row on the teams second drive and that the team’s usually dependable center snapped the ball at the wrong time in three different instances. Extremely capable receivers also made multiple “weird” drops of passes thrown by Carr that

    T.V. announcers even noted at the time.


    The radio show
    then revealed bombshell “insider information” from an “extremely reliable” source who claimed that members of the Oakland Raiders did indeed throw the game as a sort of punishment for Carr choosing to not use the countries anthem to make a political statement.


    “He wants to stand alone, he can stand alone on the field,” one of the teams offensive lineman said, according to the shows source. Keep in mind, the offensive line are literally the guys whose job it is to protect the quarterback, in this case the star player who didn’t kneel.


    Amazingly, the circumstantial (and possible direct) proof didn’t end there as the show then claimed that this same source also revealed that a local team reporter got wind of the story and asked a team official for comment. What he was apparently told in response has all the hallmarks of a team trying to cover up a major scandal.


    “If you report on this, you will be blackballed, you will not get access to the Raiders period,” the reporter was supposedly told. “Your career covering the team will be over”.

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    Hardest thing to do in such a scenario is to prove it was done....
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    Interesting. Anyone ever read up on the Black Sox scandal? If proven, I doubt anything would happen though. With the way things are today.
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    Thrown game?

    Pfft, The Daily Sheeple......

    EDIT: Raiders were clearly focused on their divisional game against Denver this week and took their opponent lightly. That's not a conspiracy, it's called a trap game and it happens all the time.

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    Re: Thrown game?

    Quality shitposting.

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    Re: Thrown game?

    Please this is ridiculous. Carr is the leader of that locker room and all of those players look up to him, especially his offensive line.

    If you suggested that they intentionally threw the game and let him get sacked and hurt then you really have no idea how a football team works.

    What do you think this is, the scene from Remember The Titans?

    And if it was anywhere near a sliver true, the NFL and the Raiders organization would be all over it. Your source is full of shit. To be honest it sounds more like you're a bandwagon who is mad they lost and is already jumping ship.

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    Ummm yeah, not buying this. Was Carr the only player who didn't kneel? No. So why does his choice matter than the hundreds of other players who made the same choice? Who knows what is said behind closed doors, but I haven't read anything about him being opposed to the protest or saying it shouldn't be done.

    Intentionally failing to do your job would be rather foolhardy. These players are, to some degree, risking their careers with this protest. Look at what happened to Kaepernick. But these are relatively protected from what Trump suggested. What they aren't protected from is losing their jobs because of poor performance. And choosing to perform poorly would be exposing themselves to that in a really stupid, self-sabotaging manner.

    There are a ton of good reasons to stop watching the NFL. The painfully obviously blackballing of Kaepernick. The hypocrisy in almost everything the league does. The way the refs are selective in which QBs they protect from vicious headshots and which they allow to get battered. The tobacco-industry level efforts the league made to hide from its players the long term dangers of head trauma for years. The choice to put games on Thursday nights purely to benefit the NFL network, despite the timing consistently producing atrocious games. Teams leveraging cities for hundreds of millions or even billions of taxplayer dollars so their impoverished billionaire owners can get richer by not having to invest their own money into new stadiums. Don't wait for an unprovable nutball conspiracy theory push you to that edge. Plenty of legit stuff to take you there already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Papa View Post
    Ummm yeah, not buying this. Was Carr the only player who didn't kneel? No. So why does his choice matter than the hundreds of other players who made the same choice? Who knows what is said behind closed doors, but I haven't read anything about him being opposed to the protest or saying it shouldn't be done.

    Intentionally failing to do your job would be rather foolhardy. These players are, to some degree, risking their careers with this protest. Look at what happened to Kaepernick. But these are relatively protected from what Trump suggested. What they aren't protected from is losing their jobs because of poor performance. And choosing to perform poorly would be exposing themselves to that in a really stupid, self-sabotaging manner.

    There are a ton of good reasons to stop watching the NFL. The painfully obviously blackballing of Kaepernick. The hypocrisy in almost everything the league does. The way the refs are selective in which QBs they protect from vicious headshots and which they allow to get battered. The tobacco-industry level efforts the league made to hide from its players the long term dangers of head trauma for years. The choice to put games on Thursday nights purely to benefit the NFL network, despite the timing consistently producing atrocious games. Teams leveraging cities for hundreds of millions or even billions of taxplayer dollars so their impoverished billionaire owners can get richer by not having to invest their own money into new stadiums. Don't wait for an unprovable nutball conspiracy theory push you to that edge. Plenty of legit stuff to take you there already.
    Pssst. He hasn't been black balled. He was offered a contract or two. He turned them down because he didn't want to be a back up QB. To be black balled, you have to be banned. If people are offering you a contract, then that means you aren't black balled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swamps View Post
    Pssst. He hasn't been black balled. He was offered a contract or two. He turned them down because he didn't want to be a back up QB. To be black balled, you have to be banned. If people are offering you a contract, then that means you aren't black balled.
    Can you provide me with official, reliable sources for that, which haven't been refuted? Because for every story I see saying that, there is another saying its untrue.

    When the "he wants too much money" narrative first started, it then came out that no teams had actually contacted his reps. They just assumed. both sides playing a PR war here.

    Even if you accept that he wants more than base level money.... For a league predicated on QB play where the constant narrative is that the overall level of QB play is problematic and teams are employing "starters" who are well below replacement level in their performance, the fact that a player who put up reasonable numbers last year is marginally of interest for a minimal amount of money makes me skeptical. Maybe if no team had any cap space to offer above the league minimum. Nearly half the league has over 10m in cap space based on several charts I looked at, and almost half those teams have QB problems.

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    The source for this is atrocious and this thread should be closed so as not to embarrass this forum.


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    Re: Thrown game?

    Cooper and Jared Cook just dropped a few passes (one wide open) from EJ Manuel, I wonder if he didn't kneel during the anthem today?


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    The literal most interesting part about this story is, why the hell would the MSM not cover this, if there was a shred of credibility to it? Fox News would be all over this, regardless of their current affiliation with the NFL, it's in their best interest for the NFL to put the best product out, people throwing games for whatever reason is NOT in the best interest of FOX, NBC, or CBS. Uncovering this story and reporting it lends your brand credibility, not reporting it hurts the network AND the NFL.

    This story is laughable though, and OP should just be banned for this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swamps View Post
    Interesting. Anyone ever read up on the Black Sox scandal? If proven, I doubt anything would happen though. With the way things are today.
    If that unnamed reporter's quote about being barred forever from covering the Raiders is true, it shows the Raiders (and maybe even the league) are actively trying to cover this up and bury the story due to fear of a mass exodus of fans. Who wants to pay lots of $$$ to sit there and wonder if the game's being thrown for some reason?

    Might I recommend the book 'Interference: How Organized Crime Influences Pro Football' by Dan Moldea.

    Know of the Black Sox scandal but have never read about it.

    As for nothing being done about it if it comes to light that the story of what happened between Carr and other Raiders is true, you're probably right. But what would the fan reaction be? That's the real issue here IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vadermania View Post
    If that unnamed reporter's quote about being barred forever from covering the Raiders is true, it shows the Raiders (and maybe even the league) are actively trying to cover this up and bury the story due to fear of a mass exodus of fans. Who wants to pay lots of $$$ to sit there and wonder if the game's being thrown for some reason?
    People will absolutely pay to watch a fixed match, as long as it's entertaining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baldrick View Post
    Hardest thing to do in such a scenario is to prove it was done....
    You are correct. Just have to see how it all plays out. But why would anyone make up a story like this?

    Like I said in my first post in here, something was off, way off, with the Raiders O in that game with the Redskins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suntan Superman View Post
    People will absolutely pay to watch a fixed match, as long as it's entertaining.
    We are on a forum dedicated to PROFESSIONAL WRESTING, after all.

    Teams actively tank to get better draft picks in multiple sports.

    The biggest concerns would be the impact on gambling lol

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    So the Raiders O-Line actually gave up more sacks today. Denver's D or another thrown game? Only YOU can decide what separates the truth from the fake news.


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    Quote Originally Posted by vadermania View Post
    You are correct. Just have to see how it all plays out. But why would anyone make up a story like this?

    Like I said in my first post in here, something was off, way off, with the Raiders O in that game with the Redskins.
    Something was off? If by off you mean travelling on the road to the complete other side of the country in a prime time game then yeah, they definitely were set up for an "off" night.

    A night where the Redskins came in with a much better blitz package. But considering you and your nobody source are the only ones tI think something was off, and the Raiders organization and the NFL haven't said anything about it, I am thinking the odds of it being a conspiracy are just a tad on the low side.

    Maybe you just overrated how good of an offensive line the Raiders have. I mean you guys signed an old running back who hasn't played football in a year to be your starter, so right away that takes a dent into the offense.

    Derek Carr getting hurt last year ended the season for the Raiders. Why would their number one goal not be to protect him? Is their a specific lineman you're accusing or is it just the whole line in general? What evidence do you have?

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