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    Europa League 2017/18 Discussion Thread


    EUROPA LEAGUE SEASON 2017/18

    Last year Manchester United won the competition to ensure their place in the Champions League.

    This year it is Arsenal and Everton who represent the Premier League in the competition but how will they get on?



    PLAY-OFF ROUND FIRST LEG

    Thursday, August 17

    (Selected ties only)

    Dinamo Zagreb v Skenderbeu (6pm)
    Vardar v Fenerbahce (7pm)
    Panathinaikos v Athletic Bilbao (7.45pm)
    Ajax v Rosenborg (7.45pm)
    Club Brugge v AEK Athens (7.45pm)
    Domzale v Marseille (7.45pm)
    AC Milan v Shkendija (7.45pm)
    Everton v Hajduk Splt (8.05pm)
    Maritimo v Dynamo Kiev (8.30pm)


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    Re: Europa League 2017/18 Discussion Thread

    Europa League group stage draw
    Group A: Villarreal, Maccabi Tel-Aviv, Astana, Slavia Prague
    Group B: Dynamo Kiev, Young Boys, Partizan Belgrade, Skenderbeu
    Group C: Braga, Ludogorets, Hoffenheim, Istanbul Basaksehir
    Group D: AC Milan, Austria Vienna, NK Rijeka, AEK Athens
    Group E: Lyon, Everton,Atalanta, Apollon Limassol
    Group F: FC Copenhagen, Lokomotiv Moscow, Sheriff Tiraspol, FC Zlin
    Group G: Viktoria Plzen, Steaua Bucharest, Hapoel Beer-Sheva, FC Lugano
    Group H: Arsenal,BATE Borisov, Cologne, Red Star Belgrade
    Group I: Salzburg, Marseille, Vitoria Guimaraes, Konyaspor
    Group J: Athletic Bilbao, Hertha Berlin, Zorya Luhansk, Ostersunds
    Group K: Lazio, Nice, Zulte Waregem, Vitesse Arnhem.
    Group L: Zenit, Real Sociedad, Rosenborg, Vardar Skopje

    So Arsenal have trips to Belarus, Germany and Serbia. It's an easy group but two long trips. I was never interested in this competition but we should take this seriously. I can't see us finishing in the top 4 so the EL is a competition that we could possibly win as it's our only way back to the CL. Wenger should play his second team for this round as they are more than capable of progressing through this group.

    Currently I'd say AC Milan are the faves to win the EL. I'd like to see all the strong teams advancing from the CL group stage and I hope the teams that drop to the EL won't be difficult teams.

    Last year's Europa League finalists Ajax are out in the qualifying rounds. They went out in the CL qualifying round and then they lost their Europa League qualifier. Sad to see how far they have fallen.
    Last edited by Kintaro; 08-25-2017 at 12:45 PM.



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    Re: Europa League 2017/18 Discussion Thread

    Ooooooh boy, Konya is doomed, wish I could say the same thing about Basaksehir.

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    Re: Europa League 2017/18 Discussion Thread



    *All kick-offs 8.05pm unless stated*

    Thursday, September 14

    GROUP A

    Slavia Prague v Maccabi Tel-Aviv (6pm)
    Villarreal v Astana (6pm)

    GROUP B

    Dynamo Kiev v Skenderbeu (6pm)
    Young Boys v Partizan Belgrade (6pm)

    GROUP C

    Istanbul Basaksehir v Ludogorets (6pm)
    Hoffenheim v Braga (6pm)

    GROUP D

    Austria Vienna v AC Milan (6pm)
    Rijeka v AEK Athens (6pm)

    GROUP E

    Apollon Limassol V Lyon (6pm)
    Atalanta v Everton (6pm)

    GROUP F

    FC Copenhagen v Lokomotiv Moscow (6pm)
    Zlin v Sheriff Tiraspol (6pm)

    GROUP G

    Steaua Bucharest v Viktoria Plzen
    Hapoel Be'er Sheva v Lugano

    GROUP H

    Arsenal v Cologne
    Crvena Zvezda v BATE Borisov

    GROUP I

    Marseille V Konyaspor
    Vitoria Guimaraes V FC Red Bull Salzburg

    GROUP J

    Hertha Berlin v Athletic Bilbao
    Zorya v Ostersunds

    GROUP K

    Zulte Waregem v Nice
    Vitesse Arnhem v Lazio

    GROUP L

    Real Sociedad V Rosenborg
    Vardar V Zenit St Petersburg

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    Re: Europa League 2017/18 Discussion Thread

    Koln are a mess. So expecting a 3-1 Koln win at the Emirates today.

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    Re: Europa League 2017/18 Discussion Thread

    Double posty goodness.

    So the Arsenal-Koln match has been delayed by one hour. Apparently 20,000 Koln supporters without tickets showed up at the stadium and are trying to force their way in. Some have been let in but now they are forcing their way into the home end and fighting. Most of the info I'm getting is from Arsenal-related sources, but yeah, it doesn't sound good and the match seems likely to be abandoned.

    so much for German supporters being some of the best in the world.

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    Re: Europa League 2017/18 Discussion Thread

    That Koln march was pretty rad, until it turned ugly once they arrived at the stadium.

    People still think Everton had a great transfer window?

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    Re: Europa League 2017/18 Discussion Thread

    Curious if the match is even going to go forward. Sounds like Arsenal could get in trouble over it if a lot of the Koln supporters with tickets got those tickets from Arsenal holders.

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    Re: Europa League 2017/18 Discussion Thread

    So not sure this will interest too many folks beyond us Gooners. But hearing more detail about the pre-match issues at Arsenal-Koln, and it seems like it wasn't quite what was being presented yesterday. Not sure its so much media sensationalization as just no one sure what was happening. Both clubs have been charged by UEFA - 1 charge for Arsenal and 4 for Koln - but I think that might kinda be bullshit.

    Sounds like a lot of the issues were caused by Arsenal. By the club and the supporters. Arsenal allocated 3000 tickets to Koln. This was at least the minimum required, but the club knew there was massive interest from Koln supporters and tepid interest from Arsenal. They took steps to prevent Koln supporters from signing up as Arsenal supporters to get tickets. So apparently tons of Arsenal supporters simply sold their tickets to Koln supporters. So "20,000 Koln supporters without tickets" were hardly that.

    There were some problems inside the ground, as Koln supporters were all over the place. This is partly because many had tickets in areas that were designated Arsenal supporter areas, and partly because the Koln supporters just took over areas. They don't have segregation in the same manner in Germany, so this could partly be down to lack of understanding. But it definitely made for an uncomfortable situation for some Arsenal supporters. The family enclosure was basically taken over, for example. And that led to some Arsenal supporters simply leaving the match.

    That said, there wasn't violence. It seems like the Koln supporters were pretty well behaved beyond where they chose to watch the match from, but they don't seem to have caused much trouble. And that's a relief, because this shit show could have been ten times with supporters from other clubs, who aren't just giddy to have a match in Europe again but were instead out to cause trouble. It could have been so very much worse.

    Its the kind of avoidable situation that a bit of foresight could have avoided entirely. But it entirely fits with the narrative of Arsenal no longer being well run in almost any way.

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    Re: Europa League 2017/18 Discussion Thread

    Main issue was a lot of tickets bought by Cologne fans were off touts and that's why they were spread throughout the stadium. Not sure UEFA will do much about it in the end though as there was no real harm done.

    It wasn't like Spartak Moscow who bloody fired a flare at the referee

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    Re: Europa League 2017/18 Discussion Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Order View Post
    Main issue was a lot of tickets bought by Cologne fans were off touts and that's why they were spread throughout the stadium. Not sure UEFA will do much about it in the end though as there was no real harm done.

    It wasn't like Spartak Moscow who bloody fired a flare at the referee
    That was one huge ass flair.

    I don't know if the UEFA charges will end up being anything more than a slap on the wrist for either club. Its not likely to result in anything serious like having to play with no supporters, etc.

    It was a very avoidable situation if Arsenal had any foresight at all. And having supporters re-sell their tickets is problematic if the club was taking measures to try to avoid Koln supporters from getting around existing controls. May never have quite the same issue again - Koln is a weird combination of a pretty big club in terms of supporters, but not that successful in recent seasons, so it resulted in a huge amount of supporters wanting to go the first European away fixture at a big club. Or big-ish club, since its Arsenal.

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    Re: Europa League 2017/18 Discussion Thread

    Didn't watch the game but glad we won. So much chaos at the ground, match delayed and the crazy support from Koln. Watched the highlights. Major error by Ospina, great goal from the Koln player. Great strikes by Kolasinac and Sanchez. Glad we played most of our second team. Good to see some of our young players like ANM and Nelson get game time. Wilshere is back, hope he stays fit and has a good season.



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    Re: Europa League 2017/18 Discussion Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed View Post
    That Koln march was pretty rad, until it turned ugly once they arrived at the stadium.

    People still think Everton had a great transfer window?
    Everton are a baffling club tbh.

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