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    Re: Champions League 2017/18 Discussion Thread

    Chelsea v Barcelona
    Porto v Liverpool
    Juventus v Tottenham
    Basel v Manchester City
    Sevilla v Manchester United
    Real Madrid v PSG
    Bayern Munich v Besiktas
    Roma v Shakhtar Donetsk


    Barcelona it is!!! Nearly ended up with Besiktas right at the end but we will once again go into battle with the Catalonians. Not optimistic of progressing but if we do I expect all the English sides to be in the last eight. I think Juventus are a shell of last season's side that reached the final.

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    Re: Champions League 2017/18 Discussion Thread

    All the English sides will progress.

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    Re: Champions League 2017/18 Discussion Thread

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    All the English sides will progress.

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    Even Chelsea and Spurs? Bold prediction.
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    Re: Champions League 2017/18 Discussion Thread

    I don't expect Chelsea to advance over Barca at all.

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    Re: Champions League 2017/18 Discussion Thread

    Chelsea over Barca is a very bold prediction. Spurs over Juve is a bit bold too. Depends on both teams form come February I guess.

    United and City should walk through the next round with ease. We should be able too as well but it will depend on what mood we’re in. Happy enough with Porto. Could have been so much worse


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    Anything is possible. Always remember when our 10 men turfed them out in the Nou Camp #RamiresChip #TorresScores #Neville'sOrgasm

    Barcelona are not as imperious as they used to be.

    Real vs PSG will be fascinating.

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    Re: Champions League 2017/18 Discussion Thread

    City got the pick of the draws obviously, Liverpool a very good draw, United not too bad - would expect those 3 to progress. Spurs is a toss up for me and can't see Chelsea beating Barca.

    Bayern have been very fortunate to get Besiktas having finished runners up (no offence to Oz in here). Looking forward to PSG/Madrid obviously.

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    Re: Champions League 2017/18 Discussion Thread

    I'm interested in seeing what we can do against the European teams. So far United have done fine, Sevilla is the perfect team to face at this stage. They are a level above the teams we faced so far but a step below the top teams. Could be a great test to see if United can hang in the Champions League. I think we will have a rocky start away at Sevilla but we will beat them at home, just a question of how much by.


    Chelsea have struggled this season compared to last. They failed to beat Roma and I don't fancy them against Barca either. Maybe they can get two draws and win on away goals but beating them over two legs seems unlikely. City should have no trouble with Basel. Porto could be very tricky for Liverpool.
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    Re: Champions League 2017/18 Discussion Thread

    Spurs Vs Juve just screams the sort of fixture where Spurs show everyone how good they are. They'll be well up for it, and this Spurs side is incredible when they fancy it.

    Chelsea Vs Barca - never bet against Chelsea against Barcelona (unless there's a corrupt ref involved). Messi's bogey team. Chelsea are still an excellent team and Barcelona aren't what they were (very Messi reliant the last 2 seasons).

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    We threw all our chances to win the league in the trash in order to advance in CL and we go and drew fucking Bayern...

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    Re: Champions League 2017/18 Discussion Thread

    Juventus aren't what they were either, so if Spurs can nick an away goal they'll be favourites in that one. Chelsea could easily do Barca...however if Chelsea's defence doesn't improve dramatically then they could be on the end of a spanking. The other three should progress easily...but poor PSG....last year it was Barca...now it's Real Madrid haha.
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    Re: Champions League 2017/18 Discussion Thread

    I have to say, I too wouldn't be surprised to see all English team's in the next round. I fancy Spurs to beat Juve and if anyone can beat Barcelona, Chelsea can.

    Happy with the draw. We should be Sevilla and hoping Porto can beat the Scousers! Forca Porto!


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    Re: Champions League 2017/18 Discussion Thread

    I'd make Spurs slight favorites over Juve, simply because Juve aren't quite where they have been in the last few years. Still not sure what they were thinking in selling Leo Boucci. Spurs will need Dele Ali to regain form though, he's only in the team because of his reputation at the moment. This is a tie that could go either way though.

    City should waltz past Basel.

    Liverpool should beat Porto who aren't the team they used to be. The Liverpool defense could be their downfall though if they aren't careful.

    United should beat Sevilla. Again, they're a team blowing hot and cold these days but we should have enough to beat them over 2 legs.

    Chelsea vs Barca is going to be a fascinating tie. Barca aren't as god as they used to be and Chelsea are either a force to be reckoned or a team that anyone can beat, depending on who shows up from week to week.

    Elsewhere, Roma should beat Shaktar, Byern should beat Besiktas, and the Real vs PSG tie will also be a barnstormer no doubt.

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    Not sure I buy the Spurs-as-favorites narrative. Don't get me wrong - its a close draw and Tottenham could certainly win. But I'm just not seeing them as favorites. Sure, Juventus didn't have the best start to the season. The surprise loss to Sampdoria wasn't that long ago. But slow starts aren't abnormal at Juventus. They started out slowly and had to catch up in several of their title winner seasons, including under Conte, so this isn't unknown to even the strongest Juve sides. Their two most recent Serie A matches were against Napoli (away) and Inter (home), which they got 4 points from. They are now only 2 points behind Inter. And while the lost away to Barcelona quite convincingly, they did acquit themselves well enough in the home return. This once again looks like Juventus pulling themselves together for a strong second half of the season.

    Tottenham, meanwhile, just came off a pretty shit run of form in the Prem. And winning what looked like a really tough group is to be commended.... but you have to consider that of the two other big sides in that group, Dortmund have done so poorly since September that they just sacked Petr Bosz (the club was REALLY trying not do that) and Real Madrid are having a poor season by their standard. They are in 4th, well behind Barcelona and unlikely to challenge for the title, and there is talk that Zidane could be under some pressure, and that the club might be looking to make major changes. Tottenham won those matches, but the context makes the accomplishment a tiny bit less. Unless that 5-1 over Stoke totally erased the last few matches before it.....

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    Re: Champions League 2017/18 Discussion Thread

    I can see ManU, ManC and Liverpool progressing but not Chelski or Spurs.

    Recent form in their respective Leagues doesn't point toward how teams will perform in the matches for me, totally different prospects, atmospheres and approaches.

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    Re: Champions League 2017/18 Discussion Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBaconBuddha View Post
    I can see ManU, ManC and Liverpool progressing but not Chelski or Spurs.

    Recent form in their respective Leagues doesn't point toward how teams will perform in the matches for me, totally different prospects, atmospheres and approaches.
    And yet sometimes it carries over completely. The problems that have basically sunk Dortmund and that have limited Real Madrid are almost identical between the league and the Champions League. Obviously there are no absolutes, and some of the problems a side can have in the league may disappear, because it depends on the root cause. Over the past decade, the Champions League winners have consistently been pretty strong in the respective leagues - aside from Chelsea in 11/12. So have the runners up, for that matter. You can go back to Milan and Liverpool to find more winners that were finishing in CL places.

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    Re: Champions League 2017/18 Discussion Thread

    Got to keep in mind that the last 16 round isn't until February. Teams form can fluctuate greatly between now and then. Given that, it's hard to call who will be the favorites in these matches, particularly the fixtures that appear close on paper.

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    Re: Champions League 2017/18 Discussion Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy Thunder View Post
    Got to keep in mind that the last 16 round isn't until February. Teams form can fluctuate greatly between now and then. Given that, it's hard to call who will be the favorites in these matches, particularly the fixtures that appear close on paper.
    Very true. And the crazy-busy Prem congestion fixture around Christmas can be attritional and really test the depth of a club. Whereas most other leagues in Europe get a winter break instead. Those kind of factors can create unforeseeable issues.

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