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    Ezekiel Elliott suspended 6 games

    Sorry but that's pretty ridiculous for something he wasn't even charged for.

    He's going to fight this all the way. Maybe the NFL anticipated that so they gave him a harsher suspension knowing that it would be reduced.

    Still messed up. I don't like the Cowboys, I don't care for Elliot as a person, I don't even have him on any of my fantasy teams. But this was way too harsh of a punishment for something the police didn't even find enough to charge him for.

    Roger Goodell needs to go. The dude has always been on a mega power trip. Judge, jury, and executioner.

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    Re: Ezekiel Elliott suspended 6 games

    Six game's really harsh. If Elliott appeals and loses, I would be pissed off. Fucking Goodell continues to make the NFL the "No Fun League" with his reckless decisions to piss the fans off.

    It also spells bad news for HoHo's fantasy football team. Sorry man :/

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    Re: Ezekiel Elliott suspended 6 games

    Quote Originally Posted by DOOM View Post
    Six game's really harsh. If Elliott appeals and loses, I would be pissed off. Fucking Goodell continues to make the NFL the "No Fun League" with his reckless decisions to piss the fans off.

    It also spells bad news for HoHo's fantasy football team. Sorry man :/
    They also apparently told him that any further violations are going to potentially result in a lifetime ban.

    Apparently they have found a lot of irrefutable evidence against him. They sound more serious than any suspension like this before.

    But I can't imagine what they have that the police didn't. The fact that they are that serious though with the lifetime ban thing might make the Cowboys and Elliot stand down

    I'm also not too sure anymore about the NFLPA backing him like they did with Brady. Domestic abuse is a bit harder to get behind. But they have before like with Hardy right?

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    Re: Ezekiel Elliott suspended 6 games

    Yeah bad news, but I'm sure I can adjust my Team in drafting another RB on my next pick or just erase him from my keepers since we haven't started drafting yet. Yeah he'll fight the suspension for sure and I wouldn't be shocked to see him 4 games instead of 6. Major blow for the Cowboys if it's 6 games, because yeah they have decent backups, but not at Elliot's level. Elliot skills helped everyone on that Offense and plug him out of the team for 6 games changes things greatly.

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    Re: Ezekiel Elliott suspended 6 games

    Quote Originally Posted by Kairi HoHo View Post
    Yeah bad news, but I'm sure I can adjust my Team in drafting another RB on my next pick or just erase him from my keepers since we haven't started drafting yet. Yeah he'll fight the suspension for sure and I wouldn't be shocked to see him 4 games instead of 6. Major blow for the Cowboys if it's 6 games, because yeah they have decent backups, but not at Elliot's level. Elliot skills helped everyone on that Offense and plug him out of the team for 6 games changes things greatly.
    I don't care how good he is I wouldn't want him on my fantasy team. I'd take David Johnson every day of the week, even without Elliot suspended.

    It is freaking ridiculous in this country the lack of prosecution on domestic abuse. People who hit animals get more punishment than people who hit women and children.

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    Re: Ezekiel Elliott suspended 6 games

    I meant to post this in this thread awhile ago. Accidentally posted in the Trump thread haha:

    http://www.totalprosports.com/2017/0...s-to-prove-it/

    Never mind I'm changing my stance. I hope this piece of shit doesn't get this overturned. And I hope the police reopen their investigation on him.

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    Re: Ezekiel Elliott suspended 6 games

    Putting your hands on any person is wrong, but those pics don't prove he had did that to her. Someone on the comment list said those photos are from a Bar fight the GF had with another Woman and supposedly and unless they have some kind of video or something you can't loophole through he won't get charged most likely. Pretty sure the Cops have all this evidence and why haven't they done something about it, if the evidence was clear in her mind, but not in there minds? What I'm saying is the NFL makes the decision before truly being considered guilty?

    So the NFL has better Investigators than the Police Department and what's this I'm hearing about this lady trying to blackmail Zeke? This is such a mess going on with this

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    Re: Ezekiel Elliott suspended 6 games

    I'm just really all broken up about this....so sad so unfair to the Cowboys and their fans...always such out standing and nice people.


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    Re: Ezekiel Elliott suspended 6 games

    Quote Originally Posted by Long Dong Booty View Post
    I'm just really all broken up about this....so sad so unfair
    For real. He isn't even going to miss either of the games against Washington.




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    Re: Ezekiel Elliott suspended 6 games

    He's gonna try and fight it apparently all the way to the courts, but he really doesn't have a case. According the the NFL conduct policy, that he agreed to upon signing his contract, they have the right to suspend him for six games.

    Why do NFL players think they can get away with stuff that any person in any other normal company would be fired for?

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    Re: Ezekiel Elliott suspended 6 games

    Apparently though he isn't out of the woods yet. They still can suspend him for his other two incidents as well.

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    Re: Ezekiel Elliott suspended 6 games

    I don't know I've been back and forth on this. The more I read into it, it seems like there's a lot of inconsistencies in her accusations and that is why charges were never filed.

    At the same time I know just how difficult it is to prosecute domestic violence accusations, which is a problem, and that may be also why.

    I don't know. I don't need to know. The fact of the matter is the NFL launched a year long investigation. Based on their standard of proof they thought Elliot violated their personal conduct policy based.

    As a Steeler fan, I was outraged when Ben Roethlisberger was suspended six games when for the same thing back in 2010. Unlike Elliot he wasn't even arrested. I don't think Ben assaulted that woman. They probably had sex, and then she wanted some fame and money after and cried rape.

    But the fact of the matter is Ben put himself in a bad situation, and it made the league look bad. Elliot has also put himself in a bad situation. Multiple bad situations.

    Ben didn't fight it to the courts. He appealed and he took his 4 games. Then he settled down, got married and had a couple kids. Elliot should do the same. Settle yourself down, you are putting yourself in bad situations.

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    Re: Ezekiel Elliott suspended 6 games

    Quote Originally Posted by Sully View Post
    I don't know I've been back and forth on this. The more I read into it, it seems like there's a lot of inconsistencies in her accusations and that is why charges were never filed.

    At the same time I know just how difficult it is to prosecute domestic violence accusations, which is a problem, and that may be also why.

    I don't know. I don't need to know. The fact of the matter is the NFL launched a year long investigation. Based on their standard of proof they thought Elliot violated their personal conduct policy based.

    As a Steeler fan, I was outraged when Ben Roethlisberger was suspended six games when for the same thing back in 2010. Unlike Elliot he wasn't even arrested. I don't think Ben assaulted that woman. They probably had sex, and then she wanted some fame and money after and cried rape.

    But the fact of the matter is Ben put himself in a bad situation, and it made the league look bad. Elliot has also put himself in a bad situation. Multiple bad situations.

    Ben didn't fight it to the courts. He appealed and he took his 4 games. Then he settled down, got married and had a couple kids. Elliot should do the same. Settle yourself down, you are putting yourself in bad situations.
    The difference between Ben and Zeke...The Steelers ownership backed the suspension of Ben.

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    Re: Ezekiel Elliott suspended 6 games

    Quote Originally Posted by Cereal Killer View Post
    The difference between Ben and Zeke...The Steelers ownership backed the suspension of Ben.
    They're completely different organizations. One takes reresponsibility for bad mistakes. The Rooneys always hold their players to high standards (although since Art II took over not as much)

    Jerry Jones on the other hand has his own controversies. I also love how they defend Elliot, but get rid of Lucky Whitehead who literally wasn't even the guy who did the crime. Some guy gave police Lucky's info. The Cowboys cut Lucky. Dude wasn't even in the same state, they cut him just like that. But with Elliot he's their all star so they'd defend him all the way to death row if they had to.

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    Re: Ezekiel Elliott suspended 6 games

    Yeah that Lucky story makes the organization look really bad when they step up to defend an asshole like Elliott. LOOL at the police in all this being as incompetent as ever, must have been the FSU police during Jameis Winston's tenure who handled the Zeke's case.

    Personally don't mind harsh suspensions for anyone who commits violent acts or blatantly breaks in-game rules. Or really just any reason that warrants punishment.
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    Re: Ezekiel Elliott suspended 6 games

    Quote Originally Posted by Zero View Post
    Yeah that Lucky story makes the organization look really bad when they step up to defend an asshole like Elliott. LOOL at the police in all this being as incompetent as ever, must have been the FSU police during Jameis Winston's tenure who handled the Zeke's case.

    Personally don't mind harsh suspensions for anyone who commits violent acts or blatantly breaks in-game rules. Or really just any reason that warrants punishment.
    Not sure if you can blame the police. They brought it to the district attorney and they decided not to prosecute. This happens all the time with domestic abuse cases, not just NFL players. But the police may not have handled the investigation correctly in order to get enough evidence for a successful prosecution.

    Thing is I don't really know. Both of their stories sound pretty inconsistent.

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    Re: Ezekiel Elliott suspended 6 games

    Quote Originally Posted by Sully View Post
    As a Steeler fan, I was outraged when Ben Roethlisberger was suspended six games when for the same thing back in 2010. Unlike Elliot he wasn't even arrested. I don't think Ben assaulted that woman. They probably had sex, and then she wanted some fame and money after and cried rape.
    In fairness, people saying shit like this is exactly why most rapes go unreported.

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    Re: Ezekiel Elliott suspended 6 games

    Quote Originally Posted by Suntan Superman View Post
    In fairness, people saying shit like this is exactly why most rapes go unreported.
    Don't start with me man. I'm very pro-victim with this kind of shit, but there's also a lot of women who throw out false accusations and ruin lives because of it.

    If you'd like me to go into more detail on why that girl specifically has lost credibility for me I can, but don't you dare come in here and pick apart one thing I said and try to smear it.

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    Re: Ezekiel Elliott suspended 6 games

    edit to remove snark.

    ultimately, the point is, you could've made statements without accusing the victims, you chose not to, and that's in super poor taste.
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    Re: Ezekiel Elliott suspended 6 games

    Quote Originally Posted by Suntan Superman View Post
    I'm sure you can come up with any number of reasons to justify your thoughts, if you were really pro-victim though, you'd understand how the notion of this is very damaging to victims, regardless of your "reasons" for saying it.

    I mean, you justified irreversible brain damage with money, so I'm sure your reasons are well-thought out and reasoned.
    You have no idea what you're talking about and I really don't appreciate you so blindly throwing those kinds of remarks towards my character when you have had very limited interaction with me in the sports section of a wrestling forum. I'm going into a career in victim advocacy, and I've seen cases from all sides. You're right that there is a very big problem with rape victims in wanting to come out and testify against their victims. But to suggest that I was victim shaming with what I said is pretty impertinent of you if I'm being quite honest. Everything to me is a case by case basis, and given my geographical location you can imagine I followed this case very closely when it was all going down seven years ago. I wouldn't just assume that about any case. With Elliot even I'm siding with the accuser even though her credibility isn't looking so great either.

    But with Ben Roethlisberger and the girl in Georgia it is an entirely different story. This girl and her friends all went to the bar wearing stickers that said "DTF (Down to Fuck)". And try saying that I said she was asking to get raped because that is not at all what I'm saying, but at the same time you don't wear something like that unless you want to have sex. It's one thing to say that a girl was dressing provocatively, but that is not even what this was. She was literally wearing a name tag that said she wanted to have sex.

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    The district attorney himself said that both parties were exchanging sexual comments and that it was a two way street "him to her, her to him": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apBOClZNRzY - SOURCE

    It also says in those police reports that the girl was "repeatedly" trying to get Ben's attention, pinching his arm throughout the entire night. And they also kept pestering Willie Colon, Ben's former lineman who was with him at the time, to get Willie to talk to Ben for them.

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    The friends/sorority sisters are the ones who started the accusations. Not the "victim" who you think I'm shaming. They went to the club manager and complained that the two were "locked" inside the bathroom together and thought she was took drunk. Those same friends are the ones who went to the police - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaRGdYizw7g - SOURCE

    The officer at the scene was "perturbed" by the fact that the friends/sorority sisters were doing all the talking. He said: "The victim's friends got on Blash's Nerves because he kept asking them were they back there with her, and they said no. The victim's friends were trying to tell what was going on more than the victim was, and the victim could not answer Blash's questions." - http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/s...s/201004180234 - SOURCE

    Then the victim herself, when finally forced to answer a question on whether she thought Roethlisberger had raped her or not said no. = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaRGdYizw7g - SOURCE

    Also says

    "Blash also said she seemed inebriated, incoherent, "nonchalant," and at times seemed to to want to tell someone that "y'all did whatever."


    [The above was Officer Blash's account when interviewed by a special officer on March 15th.. His earlier account when interviewed by a special officer on March 5th, one day after the incident, is quoted below. He says that: (a) Roethlisberger didn’t force himself on her, but kept asking; (b) she said she wasn’t raped, but kept saying “I don’t know if we should be doing this here."

    “While Mr. Blash wasn't around, Officer Lopez interviewed the woman in a squad room at the station. … She told him something that officers found perplexing: the woman claimed that she and the 6-foot-5 Mr. Roethlisberger had sex while she was sitting on the toilet. He also said that, during the entire episode -- which the accuser alleged took 3 minutes (see below) -- that she never said "no." (She never even said, "I was scared to say no" or "I wanted to tell him to stop"). The quote is as follows:




    According to Officer Davidson, the accuser said back at the station house that "I don't think this is ok," (indicating equivocation) and "I should not have done this," (indicating regret after the fact)"


    And finally, the girl's entire story changed the next day - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaRGdYizw7g - SOURCE


    So let me correct myself in saying that the girl wanted all the fame and money. It was her friends. Both the DA and the police not only didn't think there was enough proof to win the case, they did not even see enough probable cause is for an arrest. Do you know what probable cause is? It's what they need to pull you over. It's the idea that a reasonable person would suspect that a crime has been committed. That is all they needed, and based on their statements from everyone they didn't have it. Ben wasn't charged, he wasn't arrested. The police and DA determined through the interviews that the story kept changing too much and that it sounded inaccurate and false. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liHs6C7ajzg - SOURCE

    Her friends started it. Their stories didn't match up when being interviewed by police. The girl's story didn't match up. Ben was never arrested, never charged. THAT is why I find a lack of credibility in what she says.

    So don't you DARE try and say that what I said hurts the actual victims. No, it's what these girls had done. These false accusations to try and ruin somebody's entire life. This isn't the only case.

    Have you heard of Brian Banks? He was a 5 star high school prospect from California before being accused of rape. The dude probably would've been drafted into the NFL. He would have gotten a full ride to college and had a degree. Instead in 2002 he was accused of rape. Facing a 41 year sentence he was coerced into signing a 5 year plea deal, and also forced to register as a sex offender. The "victim" sued the school and got awarded 1.5 million. 9 years later the "victim" contacted Brian on facebook and wanted to meet with him. She told him that she made it all up and that she was sorry. He secretly recorded it, and his conviction was overturned TEN years after he was first sent to jail. At the age of 28 the dude finally got his shot to play in the NFL, I think he played on the Falcon's practice squad. But this man's entire life, his entire career was ruined because of a false accusation.

    THAT is what is damaging to the real victims, not me pointing that stuff out. All it takes is one false accusation and your entire life is ruined. There is no real presumption of innocence with sexual assaults. And if the Brian Banks case isn't enough for you, I have a family member who is currently serving his 10th year in jail because of a false accusation. He's still fighting it.

    Yet with all of that, with everything I experienced and everything I have learned I still want to go into victim's advocacy. I'm in my 4th year studying Criminal Justice and Psychology, and I hope to work with children in the criminal justice system some day. So for you to say that to me, I'm sorry but it just struck a nerve. And to be honest you're sort of getting on my nerves by following me around and starting an argument with me in every sports thread here. Attacking something so simple as a fantasy football league.

    And for you to even try and connect what I said regarding CTE and the NFL and then twist it into your own little version of that is also underhanded. Those are two completely different things and I felt like I explained my point well in that thread. So don't try and take that and bring it up here.

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