View Poll Results: Who Should Win Ground Zero?

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  • Jack Harris

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  • Tyrone Johnson

    7 70.00%
  • Sam Donovan

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  • Dan Dulaney

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    Fan Interactive: Who Should Win Ground Zero Season 1?

    Next week is the season finale of the first season of Ground Zero! There will be a triple threat ladder match to determine the winner of the show with a contract to the FWA hanging high above the ring in a briefcase.

    Whoever you fans vote for in this poll will receive immunity for the first half of the show, a free pass right into that final match, and a 1 in 3 chance of becoming an FWA superstar.

    Who do YOU think should be the ultimate winner of Ground Zero?







    (Matt Damon)

    Name: Dan Dulaney
    Location: Brooklyn, New York
    Age: 30
    Background: Dan is
    an NYPD officer who has been on the job for 8 years. He has experienced all kinds of different criminals and thugs, so he thinks the FWA will be no big deal.






    (Mark Walhberg)

    Name: Jack Harris
    Location: Dallas, Texas
    Age: 31
    Background: Jack is a Navy Seal vet. His counselor advised him not to go into the show because of his lingering PTSD, but Jack is doing it anyway. His hand to hand combat experience should make him dangerous in the ring, and his mental state should make him dangerous outside of it.





    (Brad Pitt)

    Name: Sam Donovan
    Location: Seattle, Washington
    Age: 25
    Background: Sam started off the show posing as a school teacher, but we soon found out that there was much more to him than that. It turns out he is a NOC agent for the CIA. There is someone inside the FWA with information he needs, and he will stop at nothing to get it.





    (Damson Idris)


    Name: Tyrone Johnson

    Location: Paterson, NJ
    Age: 24
    Background: Tyrone is a two-bit gangster from the streets of Paterson, NJ. He started the show with his brother Wayne and his best friend Daiquan. But since then he has lost both of them in one way or another. His friendship with Daiquan was shattered in a brutal feud. Will he have lost all of that for nothing, or will he win that FWA contract?




    Only one of these four can win! Who do you think will make the best FWA superstar?

    Vote Now!

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    Re: Fan Interactive: Who Should Win Ground Zero Season 1?

    By the way,

    This is your chance to give me some honest thoughts on the characters. Which ones do you think have the best chance to succeed for me in the FWA? Which ones might be hardest to make work in the FWA?

    I'm interested in your input

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    Re: Fan Interactive: Who Should Win Ground Zero Season 1?

    i have a strong, strong preference for Tyrone Johnson. i have only followed ground zero in passing but to me the other three character backgrounds are too serious for FWA. youre talking about themes like warfare, espionage, people that come from stakes which are much much higher than a competition in the wrestling ring. at best it has the potential to be a bummer. at worst, you draw the worst of both worlds where your character cannot engage well with the rest of the FWA roster because youre on a thematic island AND you write something that doesnt jive well with the real-life inspirations behind them. im no navy seal but as someone who spent a significant period in a WTU after coming back from afghanistan, how you would write Jack Harris would come under incredible scrutiny from me.

    Tyrone, however, comes from a background which sports/pro wrestling is truly a step ahead and way out. many of the more memorable parts of ground zero have centered around Tyrone and Daiquan. all the finalists have potential as central figures of a creative writing project, but which one will make the best FWA superstar? its Tyrone Johnson, hands down.

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    Re: Fan Interactive: Who Should Win Ground Zero Season 1?

    Quote Originally Posted by KAIZEN View Post
    i have a strong, strong preference for Tyrone Johnson. i have only followed ground zero in passing but to me the other three character backgrounds are too serious for FWA. youre talking about themes like warfare, espionage, people that come from stakes which are much much higher than a competition in the wrestling ring. at best it has the potential to be a bummer. at worst, you draw the worst of both worlds where your character cannot engage well with the rest of the FWA roster because youre on a thematic island AND you write something that doesnt jive well with the real-life inspirations behind them. im no navy seal but as someone who spent a significant period in a WTU after coming back from afghanistan, how you would write Jack Harris would come under incredible scrutiny from me.

    Tyrone, however, comes from a background which sports/pro wrestling is truly a step ahead and way out. many of the more memorable parts of ground zero have centered around Tyrone and Daiquan. all the finalists have potential as central figures of a creative writing project, but which one will make the best FWA superstar? its Tyrone Johnson, hands down.
    Thanks a lot for the feedback. I've considered some of those same things.

    For Jack Harris, I'm a 4th year psychology major and I have taken entire classes on human violence and survival, PTSD, etc. Same with Dan Dulaney, my other major is Criminal Justice. I've taken multiple classes in law and policing, and I feel like I'd be able to accurately portray some things with that if I tried.

    But you're right that it is a lot of pressure and that's a con. Another thing is my character Dave Sullivan started with a blank slate. And I developed his story and character over time. While I can still do that very much so with all four of these characters, I think Tyrone has the blankest canvas.

    Whoever ends up winning, I know for sure that they aren't going to be locked in their backgrounds for ever. Dan Dulaney will leave the police force. Sam Donovan won't work for the CIA forever.

    I am a story teller though. I do it more for the stories than I do for matches. And I feel like with Donovan, Harris, or Dulaney there is so much story there to be told. But Tyrone the same.

    I'm really on the fence with all four of these guys. I knew when the show started that it was going to be down to these four. I liked James Blake too, the forensic psychologist.

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    Re: Fan Interactive: Who Should Win Ground Zero Season 1?

    Yeah I think Tyrone should be the one, def easier to write for. But as a reader of yours and Brocs stuff from way back in the HWA days you could make anything work. So really it should come down to who you want to write for- who you want to be challenged to write for.
    To me, Ramjam would have been the toughest to write for- a fucking clown, but at the same time writing for him, challenging yourself to it may have work. When they started up a WWE fantasy efed at ewn, the one wrestler I never liked at all, Ultimate Warrior, is someone I signed up as- mainly just to see if I could pull it off with my version- I made it work well enough that they gave me the belt.

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    Re: Fan Interactive: Who Should Win Ground Zero Season 1?

    Quote Originally Posted by hanz gruber View Post
    Yeah I think Tyrone should be the one, def easier to write for. But as a reader of yours and Brocs stuff from way back in the HWA days you could make anything work. So really it should come down to who you want to write for- who you want to be challenged to write for.
    To me, Ramjam would have been the toughest to write for- a fucking clown, but at the same time writing for him, challenging yourself to it may have work. When they started up a WWE fantasy efed at ewn, the one wrestler I never liked at all, Ultimate Warrior, is someone I signed up as- mainly just to see if I could pull it off with my version- I made it work well enough that they gave me the belt.
    You'll be happy to hear that Ramjam still has a shot. I think I already mentioned this, but there's going to be a Royal Rumble with all the former contestants. Winner gets a spot in the ladder match.

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    Re: Fan Interactive: Who Should Win Ground Zero Season 1?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sully View Post
    You'll be happy to hear that Ramjam still has a shot. I think I already mentioned this, but there's going to be a Royal Rumble with all the former contestants. Winner gets a spot in the ladder match.
    That's all you took away from all I wrote? Lol. Just kidding.

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    Re: Fan Interactive: Who Should Win Ground Zero Season 1?

    I'd heavily favour TJ, the other three are just so bleeeuuuggh to me. Like cookie-cutter types. Not a knock on you, just find TJ seems well developed and the other 3 are just names. Sam Donovan could be the SEAL, Dan Dulaney could be the CIA. They just seem interchangeable and TJ seems like he could be the most unique.

    When you think of Sullivan as manager too, I feel the best interactions would be between him and TJ.
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    Re: Fan Interactive: Who Should Win Ground Zero Season 1?

    I don't know, even though Vincent's retired, his not so "legal" background versus either Jack, Sam< or Don's Law background would be interesting. Though, I wonder which of the 4 are Face and which are Heel, besides the somewhat obvious (from a glance) of Jack, Sam, & Don being Faces.

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    Re: Fan Interactive: Who Should Win Ground Zero Season 1?

    My thoughts are kind of line with most of the others.

    Here's my thinking just reading these bios (i've tried to read your episodes, I'll go back and do so and maybe change my opinion) so here's what I think:

    Dan - former cop stuff is fine. There's scope for backstory there. I just dunno if I'd be interested in the character very much without a set objective in mind. I don't feel like there's anything there that'd make me get behind him all that much. I feel like the story you can tell with him will go in avenues I've seen played out in other media before. There's not much you can do I think.

    Jack - PTSD is touchy subject but if you think you can represent it then go ahead. Interesting backstory to tell in the sense of how he got there etc. My issue falls in the character's longevity. As KAI said, it's a bit of a thematic island and you can only tell so much of a certain story til it wears thin. I also feel like if I was introduced to a wrestling character with PTSD I'd be wondering what the fuck he's doing in a wrestling ring infront of thousands wrestling fans with flashing lights, potential pyro and shit going off. Dude would be on his way to getting sectioned before he's done making his entrance.

    Donovan - The CIA stuff is indeed heavy. I am curious about how you could write this guy, though. Like... what's the endgame? Motivation? Who's he trying to find? It's interesting but, again, I'm not sure how the character entirely fits into the wrestling world. I get he's in the FWA to find the info... but after that plot point has passed, there's just nothing else there. I think that's ultimately my issue with the other two, too. There's a specific plot point that... once passed... kind of leaves you stuck. These characters are entirely dependent on a story outside of wrestling to move forward rather than their story being told inside of it. Donovan suits slightly more than the other two in this regard but not by much.


    Tyrone - Like others, I think is the best fit. Firstly, yeah, the gangster stuff isn't all that serious. I think the character's motivations will be relatively easier to empathise with than the others. The character's a natural fit for a babyface to rise up the ladder and create a proper feel good story that's founded in the wrestling and the progress he makes without it being too serious. He's not hamstrung by anything and has a natural starting point without a ton of baggage. To me, the character has the most options going forward nd you're not stuck having to hit specific story points to fit the character, if that makes sense. He's the most obvious character that can be molded into telling an interesting story going forward using the wrestling and not having his backstory be a complete crutch to fall on to tell his story.

    Just my two cents. My thoughts are simply this: the best characters in the FWA are the ones that grow through what goes on in the FWA product and the wrestling world around it. Not the ones that have matches in the FWA whilst telling a backstory full of serious shit that has nothing to do with it. There's a disconnect. Characters that struggle are always the ones that come across like the FWA is second fiddle to whatever else going on in their lives and the writing isn't adapted well enough to change the perception of that. If you want to see what I mean: think of Chris Kennedy, Devin Golden and KAIZEN. These characters feel like FWA superstars first and foremost. Being a wrestler in the FWA IS their story. The story that emanates from their involvement in wrestling is what defines them. Tyrone is the character that fits that specific mold for me. He feels like a character that's going to be easier to empathise with and his story doesn't feel like it's in the middle compared to the others. It's at the start.

    I'll give the shows a read over and see if my mind changes but from comments here, it seems the decision is pretty much made.
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