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    Lucha Wrestler in talks with GFW?

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    As Dave Scherer noted earlier today on PWInsider.com, former WWE World champion Rey Mysterio Jr. was in Nashville last night and met up with several WWE talents who were in town for Raw.

    Mysterio and Konnan were in Nashville as Mysterio met with Global Force Wrestling officials earlier in the day to negotiate a deal with the company, PWInsider.com has confirmed. We are told by several sources that Mysterio "has a contract offer in his hands."

    Mysterio was last seen on The El Rey Network's Lucha Underground series, which is completing the airing of its third season shortly. A fourth season has not yet been announced. Mysterio signed a "first look" deal with the cable network in 2016 to develop projects for the star, but as of this writing, nothing has been green-lit.

    Mysterio left WWE in 2015 following a long run there that including winning several WWE World championships, including a Wrestlemania 22 win over Randy Orton and Kurt Angle. Over the course of his career, Mysterio has been a major attraction for ECW, AAA and WCW as well.
    Interesting news indeed. LU has really used him really well since arriving with the company, and if GFW can give him a similar deal that helps him and the company would be a great signing for them for sure.

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    What's the deal with this clickbait shit?

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    Re: Lucha Wrestler in talks with GFW?

    Thread title aside, I don't get exactly what Mysterio will add to Impact. His best ring days are behind him, his name doesn't really carry as much weight as it might've 5 years ago, and I don't know what he'll add to Impact.

    It's different for LU because of what that show is and having to start from scratch. Adding Mysterio brings a legitimacy to the fledgling show and his ties to lucha make sense. With GFW? He's just another WWE castoff.

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    Re: Lucha Wrestler in talks with GFW?

    Rey....they don't need anyone else is the X Division....I've heard Mundo may be heading to GFW too...now that would be a better fit.
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    Re: Lucha Wrestler in talks with GFW?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrus Truth View Post
    Thread title aside, I don't get exactly what Mysterio will add to Impact. His best ring days are behind him, his name doesn't really carry as much weight as it might've 5 years ago, and I don't know what he'll add to Impact.

    It's different for LU because of what that show is and having to start from scratch. Adding Mysterio brings a legitimacy to the fledgling show and his ties to lucha make sense. With GFW? He's just another WWE castoff.
    Which is why I said in my post you can't have him have the same schedule in WWE, more so to a short term type of deal to where you save his body for the big matchups like they have been doing with LU. I mean he's 42, but Dutt is 35 and Low Ki is 37 and they trust those guys to be apart of the X-Division and help them out. Mundo I also heard is going to be working with GFW on House Shows in August as will Taya so they might be coming in as well.

    Mundo is 37 as well by the way.

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    Re: Lucha Wrestler in talks with GFW?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kairi HoHo View Post
    Which is why I said in my post you can't have him have the same schedule in WWE, more so to a short term type of deal to where you save his body for the big matchups like they have been doing with LU. I mean he's 42, but Dutt is 35 and Low Ki is 37 and they trust those guys to be apart of the X-Division and help them out. Mundo I also heard is going to be working with GFW on House Shows in August as will Taya so they might be coming in as well.

    Mundo is 37 as well by the way.
    But Rey's not Dutt or Low Ki. If Rey's coming at all, he's coming in for a paycheck fitting his perceived value. If you think he's being signed to a similar deal to Dutt or Low Ki, you're crazy.

    And if he is only going to be doing a handful of matches in a year's time, then you're essentially paying him a lot of money to do very little work in comparison.

    His AGE isn't the problem, HoHo. It's the fact that, unlike a Mundo, his body's held together by athletic tape and chewed bubblegum. And I REALLY doubt they have plans to put Mysterio in a main event program if he is going to work a limited schedule, and if he works a full schedule he will get injured again. So again, why would you invest the kind of money Mysterio will likely command to bring him in?

    I could see it if it were a bare-bones deal, but I sincerely doubt it is because TNA is where common fiscal sense goes to die a thousand deaths, new ownership be damned. So, if it's the choice between spending a substantial amount of money on Mysterio for random appearances or investing that money in 2-3 solid prospects that won't result in my company having the perception as WWE's Home for Displaced Wrestlers, I'll take the second option.

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    Re: Lucha Wrestler in talks with GFW?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrus Truth View Post
    But Rey's not Dutt or Low Ki. If Rey's coming at all, he's coming in for a paycheck fitting his perceived value. If you think he's being signed to a similar deal to Dutt or Low Ki, you're crazy.

    And if he is only going to be doing a handful of matches in a year's time, then you're essentially paying him a lot of money to do very little work in comparison.

    His AGE isn't the problem, HoHo. It's the fact that, unlike a Mundo, his body's held together by athletic tape and chewed bubblegum. And I REALLY doubt they have plans to put Mysterio in a main event program if he is going to work a limited schedule, and if he works a full schedule he will get injured again. So again, why would you invest the kind of money Mysterio will likely command to bring him in?

    I could see it if it were a bare-bones deal, but I sincerely doubt it is because TNA is where common fiscal sense goes to die a thousand deaths, new ownership be damned. So, if it's the choice between spending a substantial amount of money on Mysterio for random appearances or investing that money in 2-3 solid prospects that won't result in my company having the perception as WWE's Home for Displaced Wrestlers, I'll take the second option.
    Let's be honest here they are just in talks right now nothing is locked in between both parties. Why bring up the days is behind him then if you weren't talking about age? I think Rey Rey if he wanted to he could of signed with GFW back when they were Impact if he wanted to, but the situation wasn't right for him at that time coming off a injury. Mysterio listening to those talks with Konnan means to me maybe the deal is to where I thought it could be a short time deal with limited days. I do find it a little funny they are trying to fill the X-Division when their Knockouts Division is in cold blue right now.

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    Re: Lucha Wrestler in talks with GFW?

    Okay, allow me to explain this to you in a way you may be able to understand, HoHo. See if you can follow along.

    You have two cars. One's an older model, but it's got a clean bill of health from the repair shop, hasn't had any major accidents, and is more or less in great shape. Sure, it may not get up to top speed as fast as it used to, but it still runs great and has plenty of miles left in it.

    The other car's not as old, but has had MULTIPLE repairs over its lifespan, has had a lot of the original parts removed and replaced, and can't be trusted to run more than a couple of months before something else goes wrong with it. It's newer, sure...but it's unreliable.

    If you had to bet your livelihood on one of these vehicles, which would you choose?

    THAT'S the point I'm making. Age has nothing to do with it, whereas Rey's multiple knee surgeries and definitive brittleness towards the end of his WWE run don't exactly inspire confidence in a solid return on investment. Impact, for all that's said, seems to be doing rather well for themselves and are making steady progress towards something resembling competency. What exactly does investing in bringing in Mysterio actually DO for Impact?

    Get more eyes on the product? Sure, LU proved that...for a couple episodes, anyway. Afterwards, the longer Rey was there, the fewer eyes were on the product. They've got a good clutch of loyalists, but those who tuned in because of Mysterio are pretty much gone now. And you think that'll change when it's Impact bringing in Mysterio? What about the matches? Oh sure, Rey can still put on good matches against the right opponent, but it's not as if Impact is hurting for in-ring talent at the moment, are they? So...what's left? What else does Rey have to offer that can't be met by some other means?

    Simply put, as a fan I'd have at least a passing interest in seeing Rey in Impact. But that passing interest I and a lot of other fans have isn't enough of a return on the investment. But then again, this is TNA, so overestimating an ROI is pretty much standard operating procedure.

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    I'm not stupid Cyrus I know what you're saying, but I see more positive than negatives if the signing happens is what I'm saying. Oh and Konnan dropped on his Podcast El Torito is signing with GFW maybe to fight Swoggle again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kairi HoHo View Post
    I'm not stupid Cyrus I know what you're saying, but I see more positive than negatives if the signing happens is what I'm saying.
    And you are entitled to this opinion...however, I still don't know what those "positives" are. Care to share?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kairi HoHo View Post
    Oh and Konnan dropped on his Podcast El Torito is signing with GFW maybe to fight Swoggle again
    Impact putting on WeeLC II might actually be the first thing they recycle from WWE that I can actually get behind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrus Truth View Post
    And you are entitled to this opinion...however, I still don't know what those "positives" are. Care to share?



    Impact putting on WeeLC II might actually be the first thing they recycle from WWE that I can actually get behind.
    Sure positives are easy to see, known names of course is going to get people interested to see what will GFW will do with him. Maybe it's just me, but when WWE didn't resign Mysterio I bet in his own mind he said to himself I still have loads to give and can still do well in the ring. I think he's proving it in LU in a limited role, and I think he could do that when this company that is still doing three or four weeks or tapings either in one day or in a few days so it helps him preserve his body. Mysterio right now is passing the torch to the young talent right now, and I think he could help quite of a few of younger talent in GFW currently. You could plug him into the X-Division or the Tag Team Division and he can tag with someone like Sydal and do some great things in that role. What are the chances Mysterio becomes some kind of Trainer for GFW when all is said and done you never know in this business.

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    Re: Lucha Wrestler in talks with GFW?

    I'm sure Rey is of financial value to GFW, if they're after that Hispanic audience then he's certainly more of a name than Del Rio and has the added bonus of not having a personal life resembling a car crash.

    He's managed to work the indies pretty consistently the last couple of years so his previous injuries may be attributed more to the general wear & tear of the WWE schedule more than anything. Then again, he did get at least one wellness strike against him in WWE and they sure as hell don't piss test at every Indy show, so who knows how he's managing it.



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    Re: Lucha Wrestler in talks with GFW?

    Pretty sure WWE are trying to re-sign him as well.





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    Re: Lucha Wrestler in talks with GFW?

    Quote Originally Posted by RyuShake Taguchi View Post
    Pretty sure WWE are trying to re-sign him as well.
    Mysterio? Wouldn't that be interesting to see him on 205 Live with all that young talent. Gulak did really fucking well with Ali last night on 205 Live in a 2 outta 3 falls match, and I can imagine someone like Gulak and Neville doing really well with Rey Rey protecting him really well in the ring.

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    Re: Lucha Wrestler in talks with GFW?

    I'm a fan of Mysterio and will of course support getting to see him wrestle but Cyrus has a point about him maybe not being a good option for Impact financially. Basically the same problem they had having Sting, Angle, etc imo. Limited wrestlers who demand a lot of cash

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    LU invasion is coming soon on GFW!

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    Re: Lucha Wrestler in talks with GFW?

    I don't think that GFW is a good place for Mysterio. I would bet that their plan was to put him in a program with El Patron given their history and given that Patron has said fairly recently that he wants to work with Mysterio again (and wants his last match before retiring to be vs Mysterio). I think GFW would be making a mistake spending a large sum to secure Mysterio given how much he'd be commanding.

    WWE are also interested and I'd be much more inclined to see him go back there to be honest. Given how badly 205 Live is flagging right now, and after losing Aries, Mysterio is definitely a name that could revive that brand. Beyond seeing him in the Cruiserweight Division and perhaps seeing him have one or two big matches at big ppv's then I'd be happy to see Mysterio move to a backstage role with WWE. I could see him being a great asset training young talent at the PC.

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    Re: Lucha Wrestler in talks with GFW?

    GFW have a partnership with AAA don't they? So, they probably have an edge over WWE in resigning Rey Mysterio since that means that he will be able to still do shows with AAA. I assume that Mysterio would rather still have a relationship with a Mexican company while having a smaller schedule with GFW.
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    Re: Lucha Wrestler in talks with GFW?

    https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/201...-vince-mcmahon

    Do not expect Rey Mysterio back in WWE.

    After initially showing interest, WWE passed on the legendary luchador as Vince McMahon was not interested in working with Mysterio’s representation, specifically Konnan.

    The rift between Konnan and McMahon dates back decades to when WWE invested thousands of dollars into the Max Moon character for Konnan, before he ultimately made the decision to continue main-eventing in Mexico. Konnan was recently welcomed backstage at a WWE event by Chris Jericho, but his appearance did not help mend any of the issues that exist between himself and the WWE office.

    Mysterio is likely to receive an enticing offer from Global Force Wrestling. He would instantly become the company’s biggest star, as well as a fresh face, and could even replace the combustible Alberto El Patron on the payroll. A sticking point may be Mysterio’s desire to retain control of third-party bookings and to dictate his own schedule, but the positives far outweigh the negatives for a Mysterio-GFW pairing.
    Well Rey Rey to WWE is squashed for now, but I find it interesting WWE let Konnan come to a WWE Event recently. From the report I think Mysterio will get what he wants, because the company wants him badly and probably give him the incentives.

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    Re: Lucha Wrestler in talks with GFW?

    Rey just took a date with ICW in November, if he signs with GFW he'll be off that show ASAP. Looks like he's happy doing his own thing for now.

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