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    Re: G1 Climax 27

    BURNING HAMMER. Oh my god great match, i haven't watched the okada match yet though.

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    Re: G1 Climax 27

    Omega/Elgin was very good in the obvious and expected way NJPW G1 main events are very good; balls to the wall, signature move spam, 10 knee strikes, 10 powerbombs, little in the way of emotion and storytelling, but coming off the back of the most refreshing NJPW match since the short Hiromu/Kushida match, it was a bit excessive. I did enjoy the tease to the exposed floor and Big Mike picking up the win with the burning hammer.

    The finish to Sanada/Yano was actually really clever and made me smile.

    EVIL's been really good, I wish he'd stop doing that chair to chair spot, but other than that he's a great heavyweight for NJPW who needs to be elevated from trio tag titles to the IC title picture. His point tally is seemingly showing that bigger things are coming up in the fall for him.

    Juice's selling has been a fantastic story in this G1, the shame is though he's gonna work injured for the rest of the tour and we might not see him go ham against the likes of Okada, Omega, Big Mike coming up later.

    G1 fatigue is real. I wake up in the mood to watch something different, but know I need to sit down for 2 hours a day to get this watched because once you fall behind 1 show, it's hard to get back on track and I've never in 5 years been able to watch every G1 match so I'm hoping this is my year.

    If I had to rank my favourite performers after 4 nights each:

    Ibushi - been in 3 of my favourite 5 matches so is leading the way in MOTYC. Makabe match sucked but they're always gonna suck
    Nagata - Fucking awesome sendoff G1 he's having. All four matches have been very good and he should of beaten Yoshi-Hashi
    ZSJ - Really been a breath of fresh air bringing a different style to the tournament, couple of great matches and a couple of good matches.
    Kojima - Three very good matches, two of which are inside my top 10. Very consistent, only bad match was the long Yano match.
    Tanahashi - Couple of great matches and a couple of ok matches. Nothing to hate on ace so far.
    Juice - loved him in every match so far. Not too many great matches, but he's been consistent in his storytelling so that every match is at least good.
    Ishii - loved the YH and Ibushi matches. Goto match was good too.
    YH - kicked off with a great match, couple of good matches and I hated the Naito match.
    Big Mike - Big Mike always brings it, probably had the closest thing to MOTYC in Block B so far. Only really the Tonga match I haven't enjoyed.
    Okada - GREAT match with Kojima, very good match with Elgin, Sanada match was fine but excessive.
    EVIL - Solid as a rock. Nothing much to hate.
    Naito - 2 great matches, 2 bad matches. His match with Ibushi is my #1 so far though
    Goto - He's been fine, couple of great matches and a couple of meh matches. Better opponents to come.
    Sanada - He's been good, but starting to think he's overhyped, EVIL seems the stronger wrestler.
    Omega - He had to start with the weakest 3 opponents so the only way is up from here. Really good match with Big Mike
    Yano - Some nights he's actually a guilty pleasure and a welcome change of pace on these shows. Really did enjoy the match with Okada, Gedo and Jado.
    Fale - I liked the Sabre Jr match and that's it
    Tama Tonga - Just not a good singles wrestler. Has a really low ceiling for match quality. Shouldn't be in the tournament.
    Suzuki - I've had pretty big problems with all his matches. I've grown to loath him.
    Makabe - Awful, why can't he be the one retiring from the G1 this year. Everyone in Block A is gonna have their worst match with him.

    Looks like Okada just makes my top 10 Nicky

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    Re: G1 Climax 27

    Unpopular opinion and I'm not his biggest fan, but Tama Tonga has been more enjoyable than Okada. Elgin match was GOOD AT BEST but the Sanada match was no bueno, and I actually was more entertained with Omega/Yano than Okada/Yano and Omega/Yano was exhausting after a while.

    I'll go ahead and start night eight. Maybe my tone will change. But Okada's G1 is all over the place to me right now.

    I was going to do some halfway/end point rankings but maybe I'll do one after watching this.
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    Re: G1 Climax 27

    Okada's been fine in this tournament. Standout performer for me? No but that is because everyone's shown up other than Makabe. Top ten? Easily. He's earned the right to not go HAM given that he's been on fire since the last G1 and has been damn near killing himself putting on ridiculous big matches. Enjoying Tanahashi, ZSJ and Ibushi the most. Big Mike next. Maybe Okada then. Nagata's been great too.

    Okada such a great talent that he can flip the switch and play any sort of role you want him to in a match. Really curious who he is facing at KOPW. Omega is surely defending US belt vs Elgin at some point... but I guess Elgin could technically challenge Okada. Japanese commentary made sure to note how Okada struggled to put Omega away in the time Elgin did. Might just have been them gassing up Elgin.

    1 Rainmaker taking down Kojima. Not surprised. Okada's so good he's been calling multiple rainmakers in his matches just to get you all worked when he only lands one. Still think Elgin sold it amazingly well in their match too. And well... the last guy who stood up to a rainmaker without falling was Shibata and look at where he is now... Just sayin'.... too soon?

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    - I don't get your question about spamming the signature move. Yes the top rope piledriver isn't a finisher... what's that got to do with spamming a signature move? All the examples you brought up are from WWE. And two of them are finishing moves rather than signatures. This isn't WWE. Movesets are treated differently. Nakamura spammed the fuck out of the bomaye. Tanahashi lands several high fly flows at times. With V-Trigger, the fact is: It's a momentum shifter and something Omega uses to severely weaken his opponent. If he can land it multiple times, why wouldn't he? How does he look stupid by clearly damaging his opponent? He's lazy because he's landing a move that he knows will damage them? I don't know why you think the V Trigger has zero effect... just because it doesn't end matches? Thinking the Elite would be better with Vince controlling them... what? The Elite work the way the crowd wants to see them work. Kenny Omega is over with the Japanese for a reason. It's because, to them, he is a fantastic performer/wrestler. It's like you're judging NJPW with WWE tinted gegs on.

    Yes, it's fine, you don't have to respond but that's just my opinion. Obviously you'll disagree with what I said above but that's how I view it. Everyone views wrestling differently and it's fine. I'm glad you're watching NJPW. I just disagree with some of the criticisms you've levied thus far and that's all. Admittedly, I stopped caring about judging things such as match structure, booking and all that shit after I dropped WWE. Mainly because NJPW doesn't slap you in the face with the whole "WE'RE OBVIOUSLY SCRIPTED AS FUCK AND A FAKE B-LEVEL DRAMA SHOW WITH WRESTLING AS A SIDESHOW" thing that WWE clearly does. My honest thoughts are basically that WWE makes it impossible to enjoy its product within kayfabe. NJPW doesn't. So I just view it that way for the most part.




    Okada going unbeaten until the last night against Omega looks a tall order now as I don't see Omega getting the title shot. They're not actually going to have Okada get to the finals are they? Would be quite something if they did. Can see him pulling out new finisher on Omega just for the complete omgwtfbbq that would ensue. Though I think it'd be a good story if the final was Okada vs Naito. The last person to beat Okada in a title match vs Okada in the G1 finals when he's on a big unbeaten singles run... makes alot of sense IMO and would set up the Dome nicely. Don't see it happening though. What's good is that alot of acts are catching fire.
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    Re: G1 Climax 27

    Quote Originally Posted by RyuShake Taguchi View Post
    1 Rainmaker taking down Kojima. Not surprised. Okada's so good he's been calling multiple rainmakers in his matches just to get you all worked when he only lands one.


    The results today are very interesting. It's fine for Kenny to only be 2 points behind Okada so that Kenny can win and take the head to head advantage into the finals, but I think they'd want more than 1 match meaning something on the final night. Suzuki was who I was thinking, but Kenny already has the H2H win over Suzuki which means both Okada and Kenny will need to lose another match somewhere for Suzuki to get back into the picture. Maybe we've been overlooking Evil, he could always score a pin over Okada.

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    Re: G1 Climax 27

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed View Post


    The results today are very interesting. It's fine for Kenny to only be 2 points behind Okada so that Kenny can win and take the head to head advantage into the finals, but I think they'd want more than 1 match meaning something on the final night. Suzuki was who I was thinking, but Kenny already has the H2H win over Suzuki which means both Okada and Kenny will need to lose another match somewhere for Suzuki to get back into the picture. Maybe we've been overlooking Evil, he could always score a pin over Okada.


    It's either that or Cozy is so dogshit that he can't kick out of one. Either he got buried or Okada worked youuuuuu! Or I'm just joking around. Or you're in denial and RAINMAKAHHH IS RAINING STRONG STYLE ALL OVER THE WORLD!

    EVIL beating Okada could happen. It would play into Naito vs Okada at the Dome.




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    So I just finished Day 7 and I say this Nagata I want him to be my Grandfather. I would enjoy this guy kicking the crap outta me if I can become mentally strong like him. Naito/Nagata easily my favorite of the show, and Naito won't say it but he truly respects that man as does alot of Wrestlers do. Naito did everything to disrespect him, and Nagata use that fuel into battle, but it wasn't enough to get the win.

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    Re: G1 Climax 27

    Forgot to say...

    Tanahashi is, statistically, the winningest (thus successful?) G1 participant now.




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    Re: G1 Climax 27

    Quote Originally Posted by RyuShake Taguchi View Post
    Forgot to say...

    Tanahashi is, statistically, the winningest (thus successful?) G1 participant now.


    Nice stat, come back at me when you win your 5th G1 bitch.

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    Nice stat, come back at me when you win your 5th G1 bitch.
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    Re: G1 Climax 27

    Alright, Okada versus Kojima was a very good match and from top to bottom a VERY VERY GOOD Okada performance. This is the Okada I enjoyed four years ago (by the way Shake the "flip the switch" arguement sucks and it's not a product of Okada playing different roles, it's never knowing what Okada you're going to get and that doesn't sound like a consistently good pro wrestler to me). This is dick Okada at its finest and the Rainmaker was a good part of the climax.

    Kojima is have a solid G1 and could easily slip into being the Honma of the tournament, which could help him out big time in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darling Nicky View Post
    Alright, Okada versus Kojima was a very good match and from top to bottom a VERY VERY GOOD Okada performance. This is the Okada I enjoyed four years ago (by the way Shake the "flip the switch" arguement sucks and it's not a product of Okada playing different roles, it's never knowing what Okada you're going to get and that doesn't sound like a consistently good pro wrestler to me). This is dick Okada at its finest and the Rainmaker was a good part of the climax.

    Kojima is have a solid G1 and could easily slip into being the Honma of the tournament, which could help him out big time in the future.

    Well, I'd say that's wrong since it was very clear what Okada we were going to get when he was insulting Kojima in promos and telling him he'd dust him in five minutes and prove why he shouldn't be in the G1 and, in general, just being a heel towards Kojima. Okada obviously plays different roles and is aware of it. I don't think he's inconsistent at all. I've always viewed him as an arrogant champion who puts himself on a pedestal. It's no different here. He just comes across as more heelish towards faces. He made his opinion clear on Kojima and played up to it in the match. He's a good wrestler because he gives the audience exactly what they want in just about every match situation. He makes his character fit the narrative that suits them. It's exactly what Tanahashi does too. It's no coincidence that the pair of them are NJPW's biggest stars. He's consistently good enough for most people anyways judging by the fact he's spearheading NJPW's rise in popularity

    Add to that I'd never call Okada inconsistent as he's pretty much always been the same sort of dude along with CHAOS. They just started getting cheered.
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