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    2017 Biggest Fall From Grace Ongoing Discussion

    Use this thread to track those that aren't quite like their awesome selves so far in 2017. Who has had the biggest fall from grace so far?
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    Re: 2017 Biggest Fall From Grace Ongoing Discussion

    bray wyatt: he didn't have the best year in 2016 but he was bare able but this year he needs to go away for a while
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    Re: 2017 Biggest Fall From Grace Ongoing Discussion

    Bray fell from grace three or four years ago.
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    Re: 2017 Biggest Fall From Grace Ongoing Discussion

    I'm struggling for this one.

    Bayley maybe?
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    Re: 2017 Biggest Fall From Grace Ongoing Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Darling Nicky View Post
    Bray fell from grace three or four years ago.
    Not to mention, I'm not sure how you fall from grace when you win your first title and actually get some momentum for awhile. Up to Orton burning the cabin, Wyatt was as hot as he's ever been, hardly a fall from grace.

    I'm tempted to say Dean Ambrose because of his relegation to the pre-show (even though I don't think that's as big a deal as some) at Wrestlemania but it's hard to do so considering he's the IC Champ. I think the move to Raw will help him as well so at the moment he's out of the running. On the flip side, I kind of agree that Bayley could be up there considering she's been booked like a tool since winning her title.


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    Re: 2017 Biggest Fall From Grace Ongoing Discussion

    I feel like you can easily say Bray Wyatt has fallen from grace this year simply because he's become unbearable and unwatchable to a lot of people. In previous years most people wanted to see him get pushed, now a lot of people just dont want to see him at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ETE View Post
    I feel like you can easily say Bray Wyatt has fallen from grace this year simply because he's become unbearable and unwatchable to a lot of people. In previous years most people wanted to see him get pushed, now a lot of people just dont want to see him at all.
    Is it a fall from grace from the perspective of the fan or the company? Casuals still seem to enjoy Wyatt's schtick and were pretty pumped when he won the WWE Championship and the company clearly have pushed him as a big deal for the last little while. Hell, they even invested in all those filters for his ridiculous match at Wrestlemania and just created a whole new match type for him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuji Vice View Post
    Is it a fall from grace from the perspective of the fan or the company? Casuals still seem to enjoy Wyatt's schtick and were pretty pumped when he won the WWE Championship and the company clearly have pushed him as a big deal for the last little while. Hell, they even invested in all those filters for his ridiculous match at Wrestlemania and just created a whole new match type for him.
    To me a fall from grace in wrestling can be either one. And its worth noting Wyatt showed up at the end of Raw to absolute silence, so casuals dont seem to be loving the guy that much. His whole spiel is just so tedious and worn out, he endlessly talks a big game and rambles on only to constantly lose yet act like nothing happened. He's a guy who just stalls other wrestlers mometum at this point, no one including Bray comes out of a Bray Wyatt feud looking better than they did going in, at best their momentum stays the same, at worst he drags everyone down to his level.

    There's potential there, but he's been butchered by his booking for years now and its all catching up to the Bray character at the moment.

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    Re: 2017 Biggest Fall From Grace Ongoing Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by ETE View Post
    And its worth noting Wyatt showed up at the end of Raw to absolute silence, so casuals dont seem to be loving the guy that much.
    Are you sure they weren't just stunned into silence by his shocking appearance?

    Anyhow, I think it should be an amalgam of both fan and company interest so that's why I have a hard time picking Bray. I guess part of the problem is Nicky's right, he fell from grace so long ago, at least in my eyes, that I have a hard time picking him to win this again.


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    Re: 2017 Biggest Fall From Grace Ongoing Discussion

    American Alpha was one of the most hyped and hottest teams coming out of NXT and now they are a couple of jobbing dweebs and barely get on Smackdown unless it's some convoluted Tag Team turmoil match.


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    Re: 2017 Biggest Fall From Grace Ongoing Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Fuji Vice View Post
    Are you sure they weren't just stunned into silence by his shocking appearance?

    Anyhow, I think it should be an amalgam of both fan and company interest so that's why I have a hard time picking Bray. I guess part of the problem is Nicky's right, he fell from grace so long ago, at least in my eyes, that I have a hard time picking him to win this again.
    Brays a tricky case, because ultimately what did he fall from grace from? The best period of his career was late 2016-early 2017 when he was teaming with Orton. Other than that he's pretty much just been the fall guy in all his feuds. You could say he fell from grace when Cena beat him, but prior to that all he'd done was beat Kane and Bryan. But now it feels like he's sunk to new lows because people are sick of him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DakYourBooty View Post
    American Alpha was one of the most hyped and hottest teams coming out of NXT and now they are a couple of jobbing dweebs and barely get on Smackdown unless it's some convoluted Tag Team turmoil match.


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    That is a terrific shout Booty. Poor booking and limited TV time really neutered that teams momentum.
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    Re: 2017 Biggest Fall From Grace Ongoing Discussion

    Well I suppose that having a title match at Wrestlemania his year is better then having no match and being treatedloke jobbers by the Rock and John Cena last year
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    Re: 2017 Biggest Fall From Grace Ongoing Discussion

    Booty's bang on, at this point in the year I find it hard to think of anyone that's fallen harder than American Alpha. Luckily they've still got 7 months to lose this.


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    Re: 2017 Biggest Fall From Grace Ongoing Discussion

    American Alpha's second half of 2016 once they left NXT was hardly stellar, at least this year they've been tag team champions and put on some good TV matches against Usos and Wyatts. I don't see the big step down tbh.

    In terms of having a decline in quality, I don't see anyone having a sharper downturn in their year than Chris Hero/Kassius Ohno who I highly doubt will be a wrestler of the year contender unlike his BITW run last year.

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    Yeah at this stage in the year Alpha hhave to be the front runners for it. Such a world away from that was killing it down in NXT with the Revival only a year ago. It's not like it was there fault either, the WWE really fucked up with them. Kept them off TV for weeks at a time when they were champs, made them an afterthought in the division when they should have been the main faces of it, botched the feud with usos which could have really benefitted both teams. They just did everything wrong with the guys.

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    Re: 2017 Biggest Fall From Grace Ongoing Discussion

    It'll be Io Shirai when she goes from being mega super invincible levels of kayfabe to jobbing to Aliyah in the womens tournament.

    I guess it really depends on what you class as a fall from grace - like Ed suggested with Hero, he won't be a WOTY candidate but getting back into WWE kind of counters that, only way he is going is up. Same story with my obvious joke suggestion of Shirai above.

    Nobody really sticks in my mind if I'm obvious. Dean Ambrose isn't up to much compared to last year, really.

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    Re: 2017 Biggest Fall From Grace Ongoing Discussion

    Gran Metallik?

    CWC finalist last year, got a solid amount of hype videos for his debut in 205 Live. One bad debut match later, and dude seems trapped on Main Event (which begs the age old question: if a match happened on Main Event, did it really happen?)

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    Gran Metalik is still around? Amazing how he can't even get a match on 205 live let alone raw


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    Had no clue he had even been booked since the CWC. How bad was this match?

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