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    Re: WWE Monday Night Raw Live Discussion Thread - March 20th, 2017

    Strowman's in the tough position of needing to keep Roman busy for when Taker's off TV and presumably give him something for the next PPV, but at the same time needs to keep Roman strong for the bigger marquee match at WM.

    Quite frankly, I'm stunned they haven't Rusev'd him yet



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    Re: WWE Monday Night Raw Live Discussion Thread - March 20th, 2017

    Quote Originally Posted by Postman Dave View Post
    Strowman's in the tough position of needing to keep Roman busy for when Taker's off TV and presumably give him something for the next PPV, but at the same time needs to keep Roman strong for the bigger marquee match at WM.

    Quite frankly, I'm stunned they haven't Rusev'd him yet
    Feels like its almost there.

    Its a lose-lose situation for Braun either way. He either turns the Mania match into a triple threat where he more than likely eats the pin so both Taker and Reigns can look strong, or he basically just goes "you two guys are too tough and scary for me" and just leaves them alone and goes and squashes some jobbers on the pre show. He'd be fine if they just had Takers gong go off at Fastlane to distract Roman and give Braun the dirty win that protects Roman, at which point Braun could have just gone off into the Battle Royal as an unstoppable beast. He just looks like a background player as it is, there to make Taker and Reigns look good.


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    Re: WWE Monday Night Raw Live Discussion Thread - March 20th, 2017

    There is absolutely no way Braun is getting added to the match.

    There is no logical reason for them to do that.

    My money is still on him destroying everyone in the battle royal.

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    Re: WWE Monday Night Raw Live Discussion Thread - March 20th, 2017

    Braun will most certainly win the battle royal. I'm not liking his pairing with Roman because it will damage strowman so much.

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    Re: WWE Monday Night Raw Live Discussion Thread - March 20th, 2017

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    There is absolutely no way Braun is getting added to the match.

    There is no logical reason for them to do that.

    My money is still on him destroying everyone in the battle royal.

    Braun's basically been involved with Reigns since January and on top of that Taker chokeslamming him out of nowhere now gives him even more of a reason to be involved in this match. If you wanna talk about logical then if anything he has much more of a reason to be in this match than to just be stuck in the battle royal on in the final week of build.


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    Re: WWE Monday Night Raw Live Discussion Thread - March 20th, 2017

    I just don't see it. There's one week to go and they already have other matches with multiple people in.

    Having said that the way Taker looks in the ring now makes me think maybe two people working with him would be better. I just don't see anything other than a singles match which Reigns wins clean.

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    Re: WWE Monday Night Raw Live Discussion Thread - March 20th, 2017

    Reigns/Taker is the money match, Braun would only take away from that spectacle.



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    Re: WWE Monday Night Raw Live Discussion Thread - March 20th, 2017

    Quote Originally Posted by ETE View Post
    Feels like its almost there.

    Its a lose-lose situation for Braun either way. He either turns the Mania match into a triple threat where he more than likely eats the pin so both Taker and Reigns can look strong, or he basically just goes "you two guys are too tough and scary for me" and just leaves them alone and goes and squashes some jobbers on the pre show. He'd be fine if they just had Takers gong go off at Fastlane to distract Roman and give Braun the dirty win that protects Roman, at which point Braun could have just gone off into the Battle Royal as an unstoppable beast. He just looks like a background player as it is, there to make Taker and Reigns look good.
    There is the third option of Braun wins the Battle Royal first, then takes out Reigns after the win or even both men to give us a double dq. Now I know the latter would never, ever happen at a WM, but how good would it be to see it happen haha.
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    Re: WWE Monday Night Raw Live Discussion Thread - March 20th, 2017

    Quote Originally Posted by Postman Dave View Post
    Reigns/Taker is the money match, Braun would only take away from that spectacle.
    Honestly can't imagine many would prefer Reigns vs Taker over a three way including Braun. Most people don't give a flying fuck about this match.

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    Re: WWE Monday Night Raw Live Discussion Thread - March 20th, 2017

    Quote Originally Posted by The Natural View Post
    Honestly can't imagine many would prefer Reigns vs Taker over a three way including Braun. Most people don't give a flying fuck about this match.
    I think the triple threat would be the higher quality match, but I don't believe for a minute it's a bigger draw than the first ever (and potentially only knowing Taker's schedule) singles match between the two.



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    Re: WWE Monday Night Raw Live Discussion Thread - March 20th, 2017

    Taker works you guys every year into thinking he's not in good shape at all and that he won't be able to put in a good performance. If Reigns/Taker isn't one of the best matches at mania I'll be stunned.

    potential match quality is hypothetical anyway, key thing to me is Taker/Reigns is a marque match, it's one of the few on the card that screams Wrestlemania, you can't be changing that to a triple threat with a week to go.

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    Re: WWE Monday Night Raw Live Discussion Thread - March 20th, 2017

    Reigns/Taker is defo the "money match" in terms of appeal but i dunno if its THAT much of a money match or THAT much of a spectacle. If you gave people the choice between Reigns and a bunch of other top level superstars on who would you want to see face Taker at Mania I don't believe Reigns would be anywhere near the top of of that list. I see Reigns/Taker as more of a "oh this is happening? should be pretty good" rather than "I can't WAIT to see this happen".

    Frankly I would just throw Strowman into the mix and generate a memorable match out of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed View Post
    Taker works you guys every year into thinking he's not in good shape at all and that he won't be able to put in a good performance. If Reigns/Taker isn't one of the best matches at mania I'll be stunned.

    potential match quality is hypothetical anyway, key thing to me is Taker/Reigns is a marque match, it's one of the few on the card that screams Wrestlemania, you can't be changing that to a triple threat with a week to go.
    Even if you wanna excludes last year's awfulness his matches with both Bray & Lesnar wasn't exactly great and you can see how much he's slowing down. The Summerslam match was solid enough i guess. The HIAC 2015 match was arguably his best match since Mania 29. He's not terrible but he's clearly losing his step year by year.
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    Re: WWE Monday Night Raw Live Discussion Thread - March 20th, 2017

    I'll openly admit the build has been lame and all my interest in the match is based on how the match appeals on paper. I'm struggling to think of anyone I'd rather see subbed into the match though for Reigns because to me their styles match up well; it's the big match WWE PPV main event style wrestler of the present day Vs arguably the best ever at that style of WWE match with big moves and multiple finisher kick outs. Reigns to me seems a perfect opponent for an Undertaker Wrestlemania match. Maybe I'd sub in Cena because it's a joke that match still hasn't happened at mania, but for me Cena has not had a good match that hasn't involved AJ Styles for well over a year and Reigns has been more reliable in the ring for some years now.

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    Re: WWE Monday Night Raw Live Discussion Thread - March 20th, 2017

    The only reason I talk down the chances of the match is because Taker didn't look too great at the rumble. CGS certainly adds to the point though.

    But yeah, apart from Cena, Taker/Reigns is the next best match they could run with him.



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    Nothing good can come from making this a Triple Threat with Strowman. And that's coming from somebody who loves HOSS WRESTLING more than just about everybody here. Reason why? There's no great outcome.

    If Strowman wins the Triple Threat, it's a decently big victory, but it's diluted some by it being a Triple Threat. Unless Strowman goes Lesnar and just dominates, which he won't, it won't have the punch a proper one-on-one with either man would have.

    If Taker goes over, little is accomplished.

    If Truth forbid Reigns goes over clean and remains a babyface, the collective contents of that stadium will release their bowels in abject loathing and disgust.

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    Re: WWE Monday Night Raw Live Discussion Thread - March 20th, 2017

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrus Truth View Post
    Nothing good can come from making this a Triple Threat with Strowman. And that's coming from somebody who loves HOSS WRESTLING more than just about everybody here. Reason why? There's no great outcome.

    If Strowman wins the Triple Threat, it's a decently big victory, but it's diluted some by it being a Triple Threat. Unless Strowman goes Lesnar and just dominates, which he won't, it won't have the punch a proper one-on-one with either man would have.

    If Taker goes over, little is accomplished.

    If Truth forbid Reigns goes over clean and remains a babyface, the collective contents of that stadium will release their bowels in abject loathing and disgust.
    I would argue that Taker/Reigns in itself has no great outcome. The match only works if it leads to a Reigns heel turn in the close future. A Taker win does nothing and a Reigns win where he stays face does even less.

    I would love to see the WWE go full force and actually have Reigns win ad turn heel but they are so damn determined to create a Cena 2.0 out of him that I feel he will remain face here no matter what. It doesn't help when Vince motivation for this match was apparently a 'passing of the torch'.

    Like I said before I just don't truly buy this as the huge spectacle that it's supposed to be. Reigns simply isn't the guy the company want him to be just yet. Reigns will most likely go over in whatever match they go with but at least adding strowman gives it another dimension


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    Re: WWE Monday Night Raw Live Discussion Thread - March 20th, 2017

    True, but Taker winning against just Reigns will at least make the fans happy. And considering the other alternatives of that match outside of Reigns turning heel aren't great, I will take one guy losing to a part-timer over two, thank you very much.

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    Re: WWE Monday Night Raw Live Discussion Thread - March 20th, 2017

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrus Truth View Post
    Nothing good can come from making this a Triple Threat with Strowman. And that's coming from somebody who loves HOSS WRESTLING more than just about everybody here. Reason why? There's no great outcome.
    Unless Reigns turns full blown heel in his match with Taker, nothing good can come from their singles match by the same logic. They could easily have a great triple threat that ends with Reigns spearing Taker and then going for the Spear on Braun but Braun fucks him up and wins. The fans will be just as happy with Braun winning a triple threat against Roman/Taker as they would be seeing Taker beat Reigns, except this way the rub goes to someone who will benefit from it.

    A big Mania win is a big Mania win, so I don't care for the argument that Braun Strowman beating both Taker and Reigns cheapens things. Putting a match together that we didn't really care about in the first place is what cheapened things.

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    Re: WWE Monday Night Raw Live Discussion Thread - March 20th, 2017

    I'd prefer a triple threat, as I agree with Natty (... I need to lay down) that nothing good comes from a singles match either. At least a triple threat would be a better match and give me SOME doubt for how it goes.

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