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    Re: UFC 209: Woodley vs Wonderboy II - DISCUSSION

    I just see Bisping as a much harder challenge for GSP than any of the WW's. GSP would 50-45 Woodley and Wonderboy at the same time all day every day.

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    Re: UFC 209: Woodley vs Wonderboy II - DISCUSSION

    Woodley has 20 pounds on him and is a good wrestler with elite power. Gsp has such a bad match up against him.

    Wb kept woodley at bay even with his power and gsp couldn't ko my gram and she's practically a zombie.

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    Re: UFC 209: Woodley vs Wonderboy II - DISCUSSION

    Wonderboy and Woodley are both too tentative. We've seen Woodley go into his shell quite regularly and Wonderboy had no idea what to do when his opponent didn't just charge at him.

    And there's a difference between GSP being unable to and choosing not to in regards to finishing people.

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    Re: UFC 209: Woodley vs Wonderboy II - DISCUSSION

    They were tentative with each other because they're both counter strikers. And I refuse to believe that gsp just chose not to finish people. That's ridiculous.

    By that token I can say that woodley didn't wanna finish Wonderboy. Gsp in the end wasn't explosive. Maybe he's reinvigorated now but I hate his chances against woodley. Woodley murdered an admittedly damaged Lawler. Gsp has been gone for a long time and the game has evolved.

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    Re: UFC 209: Woodley vs Wonderboy II - DISCUSSION

    Its not as simple as GSP just choosing not to finish people. He changed his style to fight more conservatively and fight safer. He stopped taking any risks and just focused on winning fights. Doesn't mean he cant finish people though.

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    Re: UFC 209: Woodley vs Wonderboy II - DISCUSSION

    I mean...that's the definition of can't finish people. You think he's gonna try to "risk" himself against woodley? Even Wonderboy would fuck him up if he went crazy.

    If his skillset changed because he's afraid of taking risks then that means he can't finish people. Whether you're refusing to finish people or just unable to are the same thing within the context of a fight.

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    Re: UFC 209: Woodley vs Wonderboy II - DISCUSSION

    Quote Originally Posted by PowerfulCoxatron View Post
    I mean...that's the definition of can't finish people. You think he's gonna try to "risk" himself against woodley? Even Wonderboy would fuck him up if he went crazy.

    If his skillset changed because he's afraid of taking risks then that means he can't finish people. Whether you're refusing to finish people or just unable to are the same thing within the context of a fight.

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    Ah so he has no KO power or submission ability then...okay.

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    Re: UFC 209: Woodley vs Wonderboy II - DISCUSSION

    Are you IP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PowerfulCoxatron View Post
    I mean...that's the definition of can't finish people. You think he's gonna try to "risk" himself against woodley? Even Wonderboy would fuck him up if he went crazy.

    If his skillset changed because he's afraid of taking risks then that means he can't finish people. Whether you're refusing to finish people or just unable to are the same thing within the context of a fight.
    No, that's the definition of won't finish people. And even that isn't true because he tried his best to make Dan Hardy tap out. GSP is a guy who takes calculated risks. He makes a choice; if GSP thinks he can try and finish someone without putting himself at an unacceptable risk, he will. We've seen that. A lot. He's not going to try and finish someone just because some people think he should.



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    Re: UFC 209: Woodley vs Wonderboy II - DISCUSSION

    This argument is so dumb. Him not finishing people is the fact put in front of us. You really think he's going to "take a risk" to try and finish someone like woodley or Romero that will murder him? Wonderboy is a far better counter striker than gsp and even he almost got stopped twice by woodley without even engaging.

    He has bad match ups at ww and a finish is highly unlikely. So really what's the point in saying he CAN finish people when he's not going to.

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